RN Frigates: Whitby Class (Type 12) World Naval Ships Forums Archive

Naval History by Country :

ROYAL
NAVY

US
NAVY

GERMAN
NAVY

FRENCH
NAVY

*VIEW ALL OF OUR CURRENT ART SPECIAL OFFERS ON ONE PAGE HERE*
NAVAL ART	AVIATION ART	MILITARY ART	SPORT ART

ALWAYS GREAT OFFERS :

20% FURTHER PRICE REDUCTIONS ON HUNDREDS OF LIMITED EDITION ART PRINTS

BUY ONE GET ONE HALF PRICE ON THOUSANDS OF PAINTINGS AND PRINTS

FOR MORE OFFERS SIGN UP TO OUR FREE NEWSLETTER

RN Frigates: Whitby Class (Type 12) World Naval Ships Forums Archive

RN Frigates: Whitby Class (Type 12)

Posts 1 to 50

As our current Rothsay Type 12M photo-gallery also included a few photographs of the standard Type 12 Whitby class frigates, I thought it best to start a new gallery for the six ship Class. The six Whitbys that served with the Royal Navy were: Torquay [F43], Whitby [F36], Scarborough [F63], Tenby [F65], Eastbourne [F73] and Blackpool [F77]. In addition there were a further two ships that served with the Indian Navy: Talwar [F40], and Trishul [F43]. From recently purchased photographs here are a couple of interesting examples of F43 Torquay. The second picture is shown along with a pair of Hunt Class [MCMV] Mine Counter Measure Vessels, one of which is clearly M32 Cottesmore. The other warship is not British. There is nothing written on the back of this photo but I would hazard a guess it was from around the mid-1980s and it looks like Portland.
Attachments :

Thanks for the picture of HMS Naiad, Terry. If you haven't noticed, just the stern is showing next to Torquay, being berthed at Q2. Q1 where the Torquay is berthed was always the home of Captain D. Undaunted always berthed there. [second picture above]. Dave

Yes I noticed the gangway Dave. I just thought there was not enough of Naiad to warrant a mention! :o

Pic1..HMNZS Blackpool Malta... Pic2 HMS Blackpool as as she ended.. Pics 3..4..5 - Time lapse sequence..HMNZS Blackpool off the coast OF Fiji..In relatively calm seas...Telephone lines had just gone across when we where hit by a freak wave with the 'distance linesman' being injured. A photographer aboard the other vessel sent the pictures over on the following day.. Sorry for the quality but these haven't seen daylight for centuries
Attachments :

HMNZS Otago leaving Sydney...
Attachments :

At the risk of being shot, I must say that I much preferred to drive a Type 12 than a Leander. The latter almost seemed to stutter round a turn with their stabilisers on. Not heeling like a proper ship ! Brian
Attachments :

Excellent image Brian.:) Without checking the positioning of the sun, I would venture that the image was taken around dinner time for the oicks? And do I also detect a safety valve 'simmering'?? Splendid action shot, well done. Sandy.

[QUOTE=Destroyerman;162554]Excellent image Brian.:) Without checking the positioning of the sun, I would venture that the image was taken around dinner time for the oicks? And do I also detect a safety valve 'simmering'?? Splendid action shot, well done. Sandy.[/QUOTE] Hi Sandy. Thanks. Is it not always meal times when 'Starboard twenty' is ordered ?? Navy chefs seem to think so ! Could be that the Chief Stoker was sitting on the safety valves ?? No steam ships these days, another era gone. Brian

[QUOTE=brian james;162242]Pic1..HMNZS Blackpool Malta... Pic2 HMS Blackpool as as she ended.. Pics 3..4..5 - Time lapse sequence..HMNZS Blackpool off the coast OF Fiji..In relatively calm seas...Telephone lines had just gone across when we where hit by a freak wave with the 'distance linesman' being injured. A photographer aboard the other vessel sent the pictures over on the following day.. Sorry for the quality but these haven't seen daylight for centuries[/QUOTE] Brian pictures3,4&5 are very candid. Photo no 2, I suppose the ship is used for some sort of trial. Appreciate if someone can throw some light into this. Anyway , thank you for sharing the photoes with us. Regards. tipahmh

Hi tipahmh All is explained in the thread 'HMNZS Blackpool F77' in the New Zealand Navy section in Naval History in this forum. Regards Brian

[QUOTE=Old Salt;162614]Hi tipahmh All is explained in the thread 'HMNZS Blackpool F77' in the New Zealand Navy section in Naval History in this forum. Regards Brian[/QUOTE] Thank you Brian. I have read it somewhere but forgot about it until your your response. Regards. tipahmh

Sorry to jump in guys but I just had to add a pic of my old "tub " the "Eastbourne " of Dartmouth Training Sqnd .
Attachments :

Moved your photo to this thread Frankie, Eastbourne was a Whitby Class. Jim

[QUOTE=frankiedinsdale;1718799]Sorry to jump in guys but I just had to add a pic of my old "tub " the "Eastbourne " of Dartmouth Training Sqnd .[/QUOTE] Frankie, thank you for sharing this nice photo of HMS EASTBOURNE. Request your permission to copy it for my collection please. Thanking you in advance. Hanef

[QUOTE=frankiedinsdale;1718799]Sorry to jump in guys but I just had to add a pic of my old "tub " the "Eastbourne " of Dartmouth Training Sqnd .[/QUOTE] Frankie , excellent image M8 of your old tub. Down aft is a officer my him self ,what was his purpose in life?? Was it for doing emergency conning ,which i believe is at the back of him. Permission to copy ,tar cylla

[QUOTE=tipahmh;1718888]Frankie, thank you for sharing this nice photo of HMS EASTBOURNE. Request your permission to copy it for my collection please. Thanking you in advance. Hanef[/QUOTE] Be my guest buddy , she was my last sea-going draft , not a bad ship really , had some good times before I was discharged , Cheers Frankie .

[QUOTE=CYLLA;1718898]Frankie , excellent image M8 of your old tub. Down aft is a officer my him self ,what was his purpose in life?? Was it for doing emergency conning ,which i believe is at the back of him. Permission to copy ,tar cylla[/QUOTE]Feel free to take copy,s matey. Can,t remember what that guy,s doing down aft , but seeing as how we were "training " young cadets in art of "officer " doings I suspect he may have been doing exactly as you suggest !cheers matey Frankie .

[QUOTE=frankiedinsdale;1718920]Feel free to take copy,s matey. Can,t remember what that guy,s doing down aft , but seeing as how we were "training " young cadets in art of "officer " doings I suspect he may have been doing exactly as you suggest !cheers matey Frankie .[/QUOTE] Great to see a picture of the old girl. I did my Cadet training in her on the Spring cruise in the Med 1972. Great times.

[quote=frankiedinsdale;1718799]Sorry to jump in guys but I just had to add a pic of my old "tub " the "Eastbourne " of Dartmouth Training Sqnd .[/quote] Tarted her up a bit
Attachments :

somewhere on the forum i have posted numerous pics of dear old Tenby from early sixties when she was leader of F17 Dartmouth TS. Still got her deck plate. tim

[QUOTE=tim lewin;1719159]somewhere on the forum i have posted numerous pics of dear old Tenby from early sixties when she was leader of F17 Dartmouth TS. Still got her deck plate. tim[/QUOTE] Tim, nice to hear that. I will be very grateful if you could post it again. The Whitbys photoes in colour is very hard to come by. Best regards. Hanef

[quote=tipahmh;1719178]Tim, nice to hear that. I will be very grateful if you could post it again. The Whitbys photoes in colour is very hard to come by. Best regards. Hanef[/quote] Hanef [and Tim!!] - just as a helpfull tip pictures of ships can always be found by using our search facility at the top of each page. For example entering Tenby brings up a page full of entries from which it is immediately clear where Tim originally posted the pictures of Tenby he mentions, although they are not in colour. I have provided a link to them for you both below. :) [URL]http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116&highlight=Tenby[/URL] .

[QUOTE=astraltrader;1719237]Hanef [and Tim!!] - just as a helpfull tip pictures of ships can always be found by using our search facility at the top of each page. For example entering Tenby brings up a page full of entries from which it is immediately clear where Tim originally posted the pictures of Tenby he mentions, although they are not in colour. I have provided a link to them for you both below. :) [URL]http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116&highlight=Tenby[/URL] .[/QUOTE] Terry, I found it. Thank you very much for the useful tips. Kind regards. Hanef

[QUOTE=limeybiker;1719064]Tarted her up a bit[/QUOTE] Nicely done Barry. I appreciate it. Best regards. Hanef

Thanks Terry, as my Russian colleagues would say "Teknika"!! tim

[QUOTE=limeybiker;1719064]Tarted her up a bit[/QUOTE] And a good job you,ve done too, cheers Frankie:cool:.

[QUOTE=astraltrader;159643]As our current Rothsay Type 12M photo-gallery also included a few photographs of the standard Type 12 Whitby class frigates, I thought it best to start a new gallery for the six ship Class. The six Whitbys that served with the Royal Navy were: Torquay [F43], Whitby [F36], Scarborough [F63], Tenby [F65], Eastbourne [F73] and Blackpool [F77]. In addition there were a further two ships that served with the Indian Navy: Talwar [F40], and Trishul [F43]. From recently purchased photographs here are a couple of interesting examples of F43 Torquay. The second picture is shown along with a pair of Hunt Class [MCMV] Mine Counter Measure Vessels, one of which is clearly M32 Cottesmore. The other warship is not British. There is nothing written on the back of this photo but I would hazard a guess it was from around the mid-1980s and it looks like Portland.[/QUOTE] The Non British vessel is a West German Bremen class Frigate.

H.M.S PLYMOUTH. Plymouth Herald. We should be proud to have namesake ship here [url]http://tinyurl.com/8xmdzto[/url] It is curious to think that in the coming months ,if the saber ratting is extended to forces been put on a expected war footing. And after many false starts ,it kicks off .[unfortunately for a second time ] In the forth coming years H.M.S PLYMOUTH may be come a symbol of the Royal Navy,s commitment to the Falklands .

[QUOTE=CYLLA;10021072]H.M.S PLYMOUTH. Plymouth Herald. We should be proud to have namesake ship here [url]http://tinyurl.com/8xmdzto[/url] It is curious to think that in the coming months ,if the saber ratting is extended to forces been put on a expected war footing. And after many false starts ,it kicks off .[unfortunately for a second time ] In the forth coming years H.M.S PLYMOUTH may be come a symbol of the Royal Navy,s commitment to the Falklands .[/QUOTE] Cylla, Just for the record though, she is one of the Rothesay class Type 12 frigates, not the Whitby class Type 12 frigates. Little h

cheer,s Harry , it,s yon grey matter ..... Terry could give it a draft chit to the appropriate thread ...more water required :o cylla

[QUOTE=CYLLA;10021074]cheer,s Harry , it,s yon grey matter ..... Terry could give it a draft chit to the appropriate thread ...more water required :o cylla[/QUOTE] No worries mate, Re Plymouth; it is very sad that the ship which I visited several times, is rusting away only a dozen miles from here. I left my Plymouth cap 'woven motif' not the later printed version on a train at Ilkley railway station some years back.:o:( Little h

According to the latest messages on the F126 MESSAGEBOARD it looks like the Plymouth is going to be scrapped

[quote=BelliniTosi;10021090]According to the latest messages on the F126 MESSAGEBOARD it looks like the Plymouth is going to be scrapped[/quote] BelliniTosi, I have just read the F126 message board. Very sad news IMO, but there are others who don't think she has a place in the preservation scheme of things. Word on the F126 message board has it that the City of Plymouth council would like artifacts from the ship and as you will have read, the opinion is such that no taking the ship means no getting the artifacts!!!! Also there is hope for a final service on board her before her demise, but it looks like numbers may be restricted (my word) for safety reasons. Little h

A great photograph of F-63 Scarborough taken around 1969....
Attachments :

[QUOTE=astraltrader;10032672]A great photograph of F-63 Scarborough taken around 1969....[/QUOTE] A great photo indeed but not 1969. She is still fitted with a STAAG mounting just forward the mortars. All the Whitbys had their STAAG mountings replaced with 40/60 Bofors. Scabs went into refit in December '62 and was fitted out for the Dartmouth Training Squadron, they fitted a deck house underneath the mainmast which was used as a classroom for the cadets. The STAAG mounting was probably replaced then. Scarborough remained in the DTS until July '72 Another fact, Scarborough was the only one of her class to retain the original funnel design, all the rest had theirs changed to a raked design with a domed top. STAAG = Stabilized Tachymetric Anti Aircraft Gun, a twin barrelled 40mm gun with its own radar. One of the idiosyncrasies of this gun was when it was firing at an aircraft towed target, the radar would creep up the tow wire and the shell bursts would get nearer and nearer the plane giving the pilot something else to worry about. John

Here's my picture of the Scarborough, dated 1972 with Tenby and Eastbourne in the background, line astern John
Attachments :

Thanks John both for the date correction and also for your photograph which is excellent. ;)

[I]Re: STAAG = Stabilized Tachymetric Anti Aircraft Gun, a twin barrelled 40mm gun with its own radar. One of the idiosyncrasies of this gun was when it was firing at an aircraft towed target, the radar would creep up the tow wire and the shell bursts would get nearer and nearer the plane giving the pilot something else to worry about[/I]. Hence the (old chestnut) exchange of signals : Plane : Your shells are getting too close. Ship: You are full of shot ! Brian

HMS Brighton..Regards Brian
Attachments :

[QUOTE=BelliniTosi;10033254]Here's my picture of the Scarborough, dated 1972 with Tenby and Eastbourne in the background, line astern John[/QUOTE] That was the Dartmouth Training Squadron. I was a Cadet in Eastbourne when that picture was taken, spring cruise in the Med.

HMS Barrosa..HMS Whitby ..Hobart...Regards Brian
Attachments :

HMS Rothesay..Regards Brian.
Attachments :

I see in post #41 Whitby has her floodlights deployed, the greenies (electricians) nightmare, it's clear lower deck of the electrical department to get then fitted and then when a lamp fails the duty greenie has to get the duty watch to help him retrieve the boom, replace the lamp and then redeploy the boom. Looking at the booms (not the shadows of them) on the photo, the Jimmy (1st Lieutenant) of the Whitby must have been a bit slack because we had to have all the booms at 90 degrees to the ships side (up/down and fwd/aft) and the supporting guy wires made fast to the guardrail stanchions in a neat and seaman like manner. The photo is Eastbourne in Gib back in '66, fully floodlit John
Attachments :

[QUOTE=brian james;10129774]HMS Rothesay..Regards Brian.[/QUOTE] Any ideas on the Tide Class behind her.?

[quote=limeybiker;10129797]Any ideas on the Tide Class behind her.?[/quote] Looks to be foreign tanker, possibly American. Jim

The ship on ROTHESAY's port quarter in the photo in post #42 is a "Jumboised" Mispillion class oiler of Military Sealift Command, thus American but not USN (the coloured bands on the funnel denoting an MSC ship are visible).

[QUOTE=brian james;10129774]HMS Rothesay..Regards Brian.[/QUOTE] Arriving at Freemantle November 1983

HMS Whitby..Regards Brian.
Attachments :

Is that converted destroyer in the background a Weapon class or a Battle class?

Can't zoom in enough to be sure - but if you can, the Battles had 4.5" Turrets, whereas the Weapons had open mounting 4".

More Posts

Everything we obtain for this site is shown on the site, we do not have any more photos, crew lists or further information on any of the ships.

COPYRIGHT NOTICE. ALL IMAGES DISPLAYED ON THIS WEBSITE ARE PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT LAW, AND ARE OWNED BY CRANSTON FINE ARTS OR THEIR RESPECTIVE OWNERS. NO REPRODUCTION OR COPYING ALLOWED ON OTHER WEBSITES, BOOKS OR ARTICLES WITHOUT PRIOR AGREEMENT.

Contact Details
Shipping Info
Terms and Conditions
Cookie Policy
Privacy Policy

Sign Up To Our Newsletter!

Stay up to date with all our latest offers, deals and events as well as new releases and exclusive subscriber content!

This website is owned by Cranston Fine Arts. Torwood House, Torwoodhill Road, Rhu, Helensburgh, Scotland, G848LE

Contact: Tel: (+44) (0) 1436 820269. Email: cranstonorders -at- outlook.com

Return to Home Page