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International Model Boat Show 2010 World Naval Ships Forums Archive


International Model Boat Show 2010


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The UK's leading marine modelling exhibition is on this weekend at the Warwickshire Exhibition Centre; 10.00 a.m.-4.00 a.m., Friday 12th, November to Sunday 14th November I attach relevant information. If any members are going and wish to meet up, they may want to arrange something in this thread. For those who wish to identify themselves as WNSF members, I have produced some stickers that are availbale to print offand wear: [URL]http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showpost.php?p=137934&postcount=24[/URL] I hope to attend the exhibition on a day yet to be determined - depends when the majority of the WNSF gang will be going. Hope to see you there.
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I hope somebody burns out some camera batteries while there. For some odd reason, I don't think I will be able to see the show, much as I'd like to! :)

Some photographs. The indoor conditions were a bit short of natural light, and in order not to lose too much detail and have light boucing around all over the place, I avoided using flash. As a consequence the auto ISO adjustment and aperture/shutter speed kicked in and has rendered the results a bit grainy. I have not attempted to caption these, and apologize for such. Haven't taken that many, but will submit in two or three batches, whilst cooking the Sunday Roast ...!! [COLOR=white].[/COLOR] [COLOR=white].[/COLOR] [COLOR=white].[/COLOR]
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Great photos...just what I was looking forward to. The Jean Bart is particulary interesting! Thanks for posting them.

Here's some more ..............
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A further batch ...
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The last lot I am afraid ..........
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Thanks Clive, I would have liked to be there, some wonderful models. Jack.

Thanks for posting the images Clive.:) Had a good day in Cornwall but an awful journey back today.:rolleyes:

Great photos, great collection of ships. Thanks for taking the time to record all of that, and for posting it. Wish I could build models like those, but skill and money intervene! :D

Hi lads I went to the" International Model Boat Show" again last November and have now managed to sort out the problems of using another Camera and the software needed to take them and reduce the size to upload them on the Forum I will try to group them as best I can to avoid repartition But first lets see if you know what these are :confused:
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Hi Ivor, great images and crystal clear too. Can I have a guess at HMS RODNEY. It's vaguely familiar......:rolleyes: (I managed to marry-up both ends of my refitting RODNEY on Sunday and did a few circuits of the lake. It felt good to have her on the water again). Your images appear to show the beginning of a very fine model of her. Any idea of the scale? The pool looks good and the damaged and beached freighter in the background is an excellent touch. Thanks for the images and Happy New Year. Sandy.

Didn't think you would have much trouble Sandy. Scale was 1/96 if I remember correctly and the tugs and ship were made by some German lads I think at a friends open day . they did a wonderful job towing it around the lake and brought it into the dock making it look so easy I thought the Royal Oak was very good to ....better attention to detail than me .:o Ok what about these then mate:rolleyes:
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How about these then Sandy!;)
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And a few more Did these whilst I was Brushing the Dogs :rolleyes:
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And one especially for Alan Benn:D
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Any idea what scale HMS Marvel is? I'm guessing 1/48. I'd really like a model of HMS Moon in that scale, but I have no modelling skills. One day I'll commission someone to make one for me.

[quote=Clive S Cottam;145844]Any idea what scale HMS Marvel is? I'm guessing 1/48. I'd really like a model of HMS Moon in that scale, but I have no modelling skills. One day I'll commission someone to make one for me.[/quote] Afraid I don't know that but if you phone Deans Marine he will be able to tell you and no doubt sell you the kit to make it Phone him on 017733 244166 and ask him he is very knowledgeable on types and size

Ivor, Thanks for the info. Cheers, Clive.

[quote=Clive S Cottam;145911]Ivor, Thanks for the info. Cheers, Clive.[/quote] Clive a word of advice if I may ............. Like most things in life ..if you have the tools and the determination YOU would be able to build the ship you set your heart on ....its not rocket science ....and if you cock a bit up ...so what ....start again and learn by your mistakes :) If you can build an Airfix kit you can build a ship ....it just takes longer Join a Model boat club and you will be amazed how much other modeler's will help you and offer advice on how to tackle a bit that you perceive as troublesome I used to make model Aircraft and worked my way through to radio controlled Then did nothing for thirty odd years whilst raising a family ...then four years ago started again ....with no problems but as a new discipline now with water..... had to make some adjustments Alternatively join a modeling forum like MODEL BOAT MAYHEM Forum who just like here are a great bunch of guys who like you ...had to learn some how .....go on give it a try:)

Clive, I recently completed a 1:72 scale WWII destroyer model. The relevant Association were interested in having another built, but when I quoted a price, all went silent. A 1:48 scale static display model of HMS MOON would probably cost you in the region of £1000 to have built to your requirements. For instance, the moulded hull (if obtainable) would cost circa £130. The decks and superstructure would be inexpensive to purchase, but the fittings etc could then become prohibitive. For instance, a good, extremely accurate clinker built 25' motor cutter or 27' whaler kit would be £35 each. Main armament, funnel and all the other upper deck clutter (as you see in the model of HMS MARVEL) need to be bought or scratchbuilt. All these costs mount up. Then there is the constructors time involved. Say six months at three hours per day actually building the model to acceptable standard. 540 hours to build. At what £-rate per hour????? I would fully endorse Ivor's advice, grab the bull by the horns and decide to build it yourself. You obviously are computer literate, so research online. Give yourself a timespan of a couple of years, join a local model boat club and seek the advice that you need. There is generally always an element of the membership only too keen to help enthusiastic and appreciative beginners. At the end of two years you will have created your very own masterpiece and you will have discovered the limits of your patience and abilities, and will be able to sit back and enjoy the recreation of a scale model of a ship that obviously means quite a lot to you. All for under £400. If age is percieved to be a problem, don't worry, I started my model building career in my 60's.;) Good luck Clive and I hope you realise your dream.:)

Hi Ivor, thanks for the extra images. All very sharp. I was able to identify almost all of the models, but the French beast bristling with a million guns had me stumped! And at a glance I thought that HMS MARVEL was actually HMS BRAMBLE! I'm familiar with a few of the models, coming as they do from the SWA boys down this neck of the woods. Did you notice, for example, the working discharge outlet below the foc'sle break on HMS SCORPION? Fine models and great detail. Thanks for posting them. Sandy.

Good Man Sandy , I will leave the mystery French beast for others better qualified than I to unravel Whilst I don't have the patience to embellish my models to the level that these do I tell myself that its a stand off scale working ship not a scale replica Makes me laugh at myself when I bust a gut to get it as close as I can ...stick it on the lake and put it through it's paces and others go OH AHH and you can't see the hard work I have carried out from the edge of the water just the over all appearance :o Still from what I know of you so far.... we are not that dissimilar Some more for you to look at hope you like them
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Hope these are up to scratch , and to your liking, HMS ZEST which was on this table set up is displayed on the Troubridge thread as I am seeking confirmation of the similarity of ZEST [ type 15 A/S Frigate] with Troubridge :)
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Great pics Ivor, and a good variety of models. Sandy I agree with your breakdown on costs for building and selling a quality model. My wife does Quilting, using both a machine and ( her true love , by hand), at 12 stitches per inch,a 'King' size bed quilt will take at least 9 months to a year, sewing most evenings. A 'reasonable' price would be about £5,000!, .....she usually gives them away!!. Regards Jim Ps hope the dockyard mateys are back off the festive break to finnish of the refit.

Thanks Jim .............got a lot more yet
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Hope you like these to Your mystery French Battle wagon is the "Jean Bart " ??? Enjoy!:) Check out the detail on this Sandy and you will understand my previous comments
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The model of Jean Bart is a fabulous piece of work. I don't have "the" book on French battleships, so I am wondering if anyone on the forum knows why this model shows a much different fit of 3.9" and 57mm guns than is listed in the usual references (Jane's, Conway's) and in photographs of the ship and why the ship model doesn't have the enlarged square bridge fitted to the ship during final construction post WWII (see the '55 - '56 Jane's, p. 198 for example). I know the ship was operational, finally, in 1950, but her AA fit was not finally installed until the winter of 1951 -- 52 and is nowhere near as massive as the fit on this model. Very interesting model...talk about a gunship! Wonder if this is an "as designed" version as opposed to what actually went to sea?
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As you say Ivor, you were attracted to the lines of HMS ZEST. I'm grateful that you not only included a Type 15, but also a Ca Class as well. (I think I did a day's sea training on HMS ZEST whilst at Ganges in 1958). And also a Tribal Class Frigate. If you read my profile you'll understand. Great photos again. Like Don, I cannot believe the gunnery fit on the [I]Jean Bart[/I], it's not only a gunnery platform but more an overstatement of intent! All credit to the modeller who created her, four-rail guardrails to boot! I'm with you on the extent of detail as well. Usually we sail in company on a large lake .............very frequently. Collisions occur and the models are transported on a regular basis. This has the effect of wear and tear on a model, and embellishments (such as guardrails) get knocked regularly. It's unavoidable. Therefore I don't include them at washdeck level. Fine for waterline or glass-case models. Horses for courses. Thanks for your comment earlier Jim, my dockyard mateys have returned from their (extended) Yuletide holiday, but most of them are queueing up at the sickbay with 'flu symptoms. The RODNEY refit (stern section) will have to wait a little while longer whilst I have a minor operation on my 'underwater fittings' on Monday afternoon. Nothing serious, but it may mean that I cannot lift a wheelspanner or crack the whip with much effect for a few days.:rolleyes:

Hi Sandy, hope your personal refit goes well, we'll have to see if we can find an aluminium wheel spanner for you. I did 3 months with a wheel spanner on ventilation/ damage control party in Ark Royal in the 60' Best wishes Jim

Hi Jim, personal refit postponed at short notice by NHS 11:45 today.:( Not best pleased. This address, with only two occupants, has suffered 70% operation cancellations in the past 12months. Not quite the service we are led to believe via polit-speak. Never mind, I'm sure there are more needy individuals out there than my wife and I.:rolleyes: Gives me a chance to crack on with the important refit ....... :D Happy new Year to you mate and power to your brushes.:D Sandy.

Thank you Don and Jim for your interest and kindness. Hope the op goes will Sandy .......it was my turn on the week before Christmas when I had the nerves on my lower back spine zapped to kill the pain I have had for the last few years Still enough of that have a look at these, and the hydraulic pumps , relays . final drive , Thrusters ........I feel a headache coming on :(
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Now [B]there's[/B] complex Ivor!:eek: It reminds me of the difference between driving my old 1934 Riley Lynx Tourer and todays modern VW. Not so much to go wrong on the Riley! Your reference to a headache coming on is mirrored here! Two channel is fine for me, and maybe up to five channel as a definite upper limit. The control module must look like a mix of spaghetti and alphabet soup!:D Hope all is well with your lower back by the way. Best wishes, Sandy.

Thanks Sandy , Talking of spaghetti , I have a copy of the wiring diagram produced by Dave Milbourn of" Action Electronics "that he did for me whilst trying to cram all my electronics purchased from him into the "HMS Manxman" I will ask his permission first but if he has no objections I will let you see what Spaghetti is like and how he overcome the problem for me...great guy and friend to know I might add Any way to the task in hand ......here are some shots of the indoor pond they build fo the exhibition , one of my favourites and some turret's before I show you HMS WARSPITE which I will have to spread over a few post's as I have quite a few to show you of the detail;)
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Right Sandy , Hope you like these , and some of the detail is a bit fuzzy , but did the best I could at the time amongst a jostling crowd...
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And yet more ....confined my self to the deck line whilst taking these batch of shots as I am sure you know what she looked like over all
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I think you will agree that this guy is a VERY patient man indeed ........ I as a mark of respect.... submit the credit he justly deserves :o
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Now that's what scratchbuilding is all about Ivor. Ten years! Dedication to project and dedication to detail. (At my age it would be ill advisable to start a project that would last ten years).:D Wonderful model and thanks for sharing it with us. Sandy.

[quote=Destroyerman;146305]Now that's what scratchbuilding is all about Ivor. Ten years! Dedication to project and dedication to detail. (At my age it would be ill advisable to start a project that would last ten years).:D Wonderful model and thanks for sharing it with us. Sandy.[/quote] You are more than welcome Sandy...........nice to meet some one else who appreciates the time and effort it takes to produce something as detailed and inspiring as that without going and buying it off the shelf . I know what you mean about time span to but we can only do that which yields pleasure and without to high a cost now days eh Right ...I will find some more for you soon

That Warspite is as good as it gets, and sets standards for accuracy and skill for the rest of us to emulate, although I will never be a "scratchbuilder" due to funding issues raised by the household "budget manager" :). Not only that, it's one of my alltime favorite ships of the RN! Really appreciate the posts, ITD --- Warspite and Jean Bart in particular are fascinating to look at for the detail and obvious "love" poured into their construction -- rivalling the shipyards that actually built the real ships, I'd say. Regards,

[quote=Don Boyer;146474]That Warspite is as good as it gets, and sets standards for accuracy and skill for the rest of us to emulate, although I will never be a "scratchbuilder" due to funding issues raised by the household "budget manager" :). Not only that, it's one of my alltime favorite ships of the RN! Really appreciate the posts, ITD --- Warspite and Jean Bart in particular are fascinating to look at for the detail and obvious "love" poured into their construction -- rivalling the shipyards that actually built the real ships, I'd say. Regards,[/quote] Glad you like them Don... and only to pleased to share them with an appreciative audience ... I still have more to show you all but it would seem the "System" is rejecting that which I offer up to be attachments .....although I am doing exactly as I have up to know but it seems to be rejecting the photographs offered up ...I have tried reducing the quantity but to no avail I will try again later ....fear not :p

Ivor, Your photography is great! Nice to see the events photo's with such detail in scale. Great job! Regards Charles

[quote=CGRET;146515]Ivor, Your photography is great! Nice to see the events photo's with such detail in scale. Great job! Regards Charles[/quote] Hello my dear friend so nice to hear from you , hope you are well and fit Thanks for the flattery ...it all ways works I now feel very guilty as I have just noticed a Coast Guard Cutter in the back ground of one of the pictures I took ........I promise to take a picture of it this year so that you can tell me if it is the real McCoy Since meeting Karen and setting up our new home ...I have done no modeling as it had to take second place but the Gato is about 80% finished and then will need to be Air brushed and then will be ready for its maiden voyage I have just completed the model work shop so I hope to pick up where I left off soon Warm regards to you Charles from Karen and I :):)

Ivor, Great to see you getting along very indeed. Thank you for the offer of snapping a picture of a Coast Guard Cutter. I look forward to seeing the finished Gato. Please extend my warm wishes to your other half. Regards Charles & Dee

Will try to get it going soon Charles , and thanks for your kindness with info in the past Regards Ivor

Well lets try again here...... and see what happens now:confused: Bit of a mixed bag but good models
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Hmmmm success at last ........Terry said he would look into it for me so THANKS TERRY :D
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OK Sandy . The next will be spread over two posts as it would seem that five photo's is about the maximum I can attach at a time ..........hope you like them
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And here is the remainder She is HMS Barrosa c1947 and a very fine model [ sorry about out of focus photo ]:o
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[QUOTE=ivorthediver;147582]And here is the remainder She is HMS Barrosa c1947 [I]and a very fine model [/I][ sorry about out of focus photo ]:o[/QUOTE] Bit of an understatement there Ivor.:rolleyes: More than 'fine' I would venture. What a stunning model it is, with the attention to detail absolutely brilliant. The Emergency Steering Position is suberb and even the Flotanets (hung from brackets on the superstructure) are amazing. Now that's a model that we should all aspire to be capable of building. Thanks for putting us in our places ..............:D Sandy.




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