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HMCS Niobe

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Hi, ONG here. I would like to build a Model of Canada's first warship HMCS Niobe, a Diamond Class cruiser which arrived in Halifax in 1910. I doubt anyone makes any kits, so please let me know if there is one. Are there any plans I can use to scratch bulid this ship?. Also as this is my first go at scratch building can any one give any useful hints? Thanks and cheers Old Naval Guard

Sorry I tried to down load an image of her the first time. Didn't happen. Here she is now I hope:(:rolleyes:
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Sorry to reply after such a long time but I hope this might be of interest. This is my 1/96th model of [I]Niobe[/I], shown together with my [I]Pelorus[/I] and Bob K's [I]Skirmisher[/I] at Dean's Marine in September. [I]Niobe [/I]is far from complete, awaiting boats, rigging and numerous other details but the following information might be helpful:[LIST] [*]Admiralty plans exist. I sourced my copy from a contact in Canada. [*]Many photos also exist. A collection of more than 300 images of [I]Niobe[/I] was formerly downloadable from the Canadian Navy website but unfortunately this is now a broken link. I can provide these images on disk if requested. [*][I]Niobe's[/I] hull form was very similar to [I]Kent[/I] for which GRP mouldings are available. I happened to have one of these in poor condition and used the bottom half as the basis of my [I]Niobe[/I]. The stern section is completely remodelled though. [*]I have made many etchings for [I]Niobe[/I] including gun shields and ventilator grilles. I could make copies of these available if requested. [*]I have not traced any builder's model of [I]Niobe[/I] (Vickers) but there is in store at Barrow a magnificent model of near-sister [I]Ampithritite[/I]. This answers many puzzles that can't be resolved otherwise. [*]There is a builders model of the lead ship [I]Diadem [/I](Fairfields) currently on display in the Science Museum but this is likely to dissapear shortly and may be inaccessible for a long time. Like the Vickers model, it answers many many puzzling questions. [*]There is a model of [I]Powerful[/I] in the Maritime Museum reserve collection which answers numerous puzzling questions like the arrangement of the anchor winches. The [I]Diadems [/I]were basically scaled down [I]Powerfuls[/I]. [*]Photos and information from the Victorian period are quite rare. I have copies of the PRO's official photgraphs but it's not possible to determine the complete colour scheme. For instance I have no idea what the colour of the boat deck is because all the builder's models show it as plain undetailed wood finish.[/LIST]My model was built with the idea of sailing on open water and is vastly overpowered. Indeed the Captain could easily water ski behind it. However the Victorian hull drives through the water in a magnificent fashion and displays a truly realistic bow wave strongly resembling those in the very few photos of the ship at sea. The PRO have Niobe's logs and it becomes clear that after her trials the ship was never again called upon to exceed 10 or maybe 12 knots. Doubtless reliability of machinery was a factor in that. Despite that she had a varied career, being present in the beautiful [URL="http://www.viewing.com/Pelorus/Killary.jpg"]Lawrence photgraph in Killary harbour [/URL]in 1899, escorting the the Royal Tour ship Ophir in 1901, becoming the first major warship in the Canadian Navy in 1910 and nearly sinking after a grounding incident before being driven ashore in the Halifax explosion.
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[QUOTE=victorian;10003977] Despite that she had a varied career ... becoming the first major warship in the Canadian Navy in 1910 and nearly sinking after a grounding incident before being driven ashore in the Halifax explosion.[/QUOTE] The name "[B]HMCS [/B][B]Niobe[/B]" was perpetuated in the RCN as the WWII Headquarters of the RCN in the UK (located in Greenock, Scotland) from 1941-1946 adopted that name. Still later, the HQ of the Canadian Joint Staff in London also took the name ... until sometime in the mid-to-late 1960s I believe. Nothing to do with modelling I'm afraid, but possibly of interest?

[quote=victorian;10003977]Sorry to reply after such a long time but I hope this might be of interest. This is my 1/96th model of [I]Niobe[/I], shown together with my [I]Pelorus[/I] and Bob K's [I]Skirmisher[/I] at Dean's Marine in September. [I]Niobe [/I]is far from complete, awaiting boats, rigging and numerous other details but the following information might be helpful: [LIST] [*]Admiralty plans exist. I sourced my copy from a contact in Canada. [*]Many photos also exist. A collection of more than 300 images of [I]Niobe[/I] was formerly downloadable from the Canadian Navy website but unfortunately this is now a broken link. I can provide these images on disk if requested. [*][I]Niobe's[/I] hull form was very similar to [I]Kent[/I] for which GRP mouldings are available. I happened to have one of these in poor condition and used the bottom half as the basis of my [I]Niobe[/I]. The stern section is completely remodelled though. [*]I have made many etchings for [I]Niobe[/I] including gun shields and ventilator grilles. I could make copies of these available if requested. [*]I have not traced any builder's model of [I]Niobe[/I] (Vickers) but there is in store at Barrow a magnificent model of near-sister [I]Ampithritite[/I]. This answers many puzzles that can't be resolved otherwise. [*]There is a builders model of the lead ship [I]Diadem [/I](Fairfields) currently on display in the Science Museum but this is likely to dissapear shortly and may be inaccessible for a long time. Like the Vickers model, it answers many many puzzling questions. [*]There is a model of [I]Powerful[/I] in the Maritime Museum reserve collection which answers numerous puzzling questions like the arrangement of the anchor winches. The [I]Diadems [/I]were basically scaled down [I]Powerfuls[/I]. [*]Photos and information from the Victorian period are quite rare. I have copies of the PRO's official photgraphs but it's not possible to determine the complete colour scheme. For instance I have no idea what the colour of the boat deck is because all the builder's models show it as plain undetailed wood finish.[/LIST] My model was built with the idea of sailing on open water and is vastly overpowered. Indeed the Captain could easily water ski behind it. However the Victorian hull drives through the water in a magnificent fashion and displays a truly realistic bow wave strongly resembling those in the very few photos of the ship at sea. The PRO have Niobe's logs and it becomes clear that after her trials the ship was never again called upon to exceed 10 or maybe 12 knots. Doubtless reliability of machinery was a factor in that. Despite that she had a varied career, being present in the beautiful [URL="http://www.viewing.com/Pelorus/Killary.jpg"]Lawrence photgraph in Killary harbour [/URL]in 1899, escorting the the Royal Tour ship Ophir in 1901, becoming the first major warship in the Canadian Navy in 1910 and nearly sinking after a grounding incident before being driven ashore in the Halifax explosion.[/quote] Thanks for posting that image , your models are a credit to you . Tell Ron that he needs to clean up that pool again ...Kind Regards IVOR

Fantastic picture - do you know if any resource exists in regard to HMS Argonaut?

Couple of existing Forum threads that may be of interest: [URL="http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12352&highlight=niobe"]HMS/HMCS Niobe 1897-1922[/URL] [URL="http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1324&highlight=niobe"]HMCS Niobe[/URL] [URL="http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90&highlight=niobe"]Ships Names: Niobe[/URL]

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