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Here are a couple of pics I took as we passed the old rock last year on a cruise in the P&O liner Aurora. Hope these are of interest. It was awsome to see it after a lifetime of books about the sea.
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Ahh the City Tav, amongst others :D. Drunk a lot of falling-over water down there;)

Wish we could have gone into that anchorage for the day Alan, but alas, we swept on by,

Guys Here are a few pics that I took in Gib last March: The first few are taken in the Trafalgar cemetry (although only 3 casualties from that battle are buried there). A couple are of Ark Royal and Eagle graves in the main cemetry. One is of the memorial that commemorates the parts played by the British and American navies around Gib in WW2. There is one of a ceremonial parade that regularly takes place through the town and finally one of part of the cold war defences. Hope you find them interesting...John
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Great pictures John of such a notable place. I'd love to go there. We'll never give up Gibraltar - will we?

I say John Brown, damn fine pics old chap. As Herk says, I'd liked to have gone there too. Why P&O doesn't stop there and not some of these awful places can only be exorbitant port fees costs. I can never work this out, as ships with 2000 passengers with all the money they have to spend ashore could virtually fund the place. Must be marvelous to read those tombstones about Trafalgar. Thanks for adding this.

Guys, Glad you liked the pics. Here's a few more that might interest you: The first is taken from the rock. The small harbour is called Rosia Bay or Nelsons Anchorage. This is where Nelsons body was brought ashore after Trafalgar. At the top right hand tip of the bay is a white stucture surrounded by greenery. This is the site of the '100 ton' gun, a huge cannon. Two of these were built and the other is sited on the island of Malta. The next two pics are of 'Jocks Balcony' which is high up on the rock face. When the tunnels in the rock were being extended during WW2 the personnel working on it needed somewhere to go for short breaks that would allow them some daylight. Hence the balcony was dug and named after the Scots that built it. The last pic shows a view from the balcony overlooking the runway and, in the foreground, the main cemetry. Our guide on the tunnel tour told me that the local Morrisons supermarket now has more staff working on Gib than the Royal Navy does. Regards...John
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Very progressive supermarket - Morrison's! Thanks very much for these. I did enjoy seeing them. I guess my total knowledge of the Rock has been gleaned from Patrick O'Brian. So you're putting a bit of meat onto these memories.

Great photos you two brought some memories thanks Rom;)

I'm seeking history of Gibraltar around 1823. My Great Great Grandmother was born there. My Great Great Great Grandmother (born in Scarborough) was English and was married to a soldier, so was presumably accompanying her husband on his posting there. Many of my ancestors have naval associations, so it is possible that he was a Marine. My Great Great Grandmother subsequently married a mariner and returned to Hartlepool where my Great Grandmother was born in 1850. If I can find what Regiments were stationed in Gibraltar in 1823 I might be able to trace my Great Great Great Grandfather. Another ancestor was a 'Prentice' (sic) aged 15 on a ship named 'Alert' in 1861. Is this likely to be the Pre 1860 Screw Sloops HMS Alert Launched 1856 Sold 1896 (From:- [url]http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/cruisers.htm[/url] )? Any online sources for crew lists would be appreciated to help me in my search for my family history. Thank-you.

Some pictures of Gibraltar in the 1880's. Sorry, the last one is Rothesay, I had a senior moment. Bob.
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Welcome aboard Jack. I would think that someone with a rating/position of "Prentice" would have been on a merchant vessel of some kind.

[QUOTE=romft1945;3142]Great photos you two brought some memories thanks Rom;)[/QUOTE] Bet Catalan Bay looks nothing like this now..... Bill
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Happy memories of sitting at a cafe in Mackintosh Square on a Saturday checking my lottery tickets as the numbers were read out from the town hall. Ken

Here is a view taken from boat we hired . The first ship near the sheer legs ,is my old ship SCYLLA , the other would be PENELOPE the other could be BRIGHTON ,being refitted out . the othe ,i havent a clue . cylla
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1972 from the top of the rock. Bill
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[B][I][COLOR="Blue"]the othe ,i havent a clue .[/COLOR][/I][/B] Cylla, post # 12 poss a Tribal Class? what year was it? Little h

Hi. The photo is made in 1908 from board of Russian battleship "Slava". Best regards Alex
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Alex, Re post #15 above; now I am completely confused was this a reply to the query about post #12??? Little h

Nice to see the Pics. of Gib. calling there for half a day in Oct. on the Ventura. They brought back memories not been since nov.58. Benbow30

I find the currently underused Gibraltar with barely a RN presence at all to speak of very sad.:(

Hi. [QUOTE=harry.gibbon;70320]Alex, Re post #15 above; now I am completely confused was this a reply to the query about post #12??? Little h[/QUOTE] I am sorry. I badly know the English language and consequently your question to me is not clear. :( Best regards Alex
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[QUOTE=Alex Shenec;70355]Hi. I am sorry. I badly know the English language and consequently your question to me is not clear. :( Best regards Alex[/QUOTE] Worry not Alex - your English is far better than my/our Russian. Bill

[QUOTE=harry.gibbon;70298][B][I][COLOR="Blue"]the othe ,i havent a clue .[/COLOR][/I][/B] Cylla, post # 12 poss a Tribal Class? what year was it? Little h[/QUOTE] Harry It was 1970 , we had been doing towing trials . cylla

Little h / Cylla Looking at the pic in Alex post #19 - when would you say that was ? My guess is between the wars in 30's - Wrestling with the pennant numbers on the DD centre picture it look like H79 which was HMS Firedrake. Built 1934 Sunk 1942. Yet another mystery for our experts. Dave H

[QUOTE=Dave Hutson;70428]Little h / Cylla Looking at the pic in Alex post #19 - when would you say that was ? My guess is between the wars in 30's - Wrestling with the pennant numbers on the DD centre picture it look like H79 which was HMS Firedrake. Built 1934 Sunk 1942. Yet another mystery for our experts. Dave H[/QUOTE] Hi. The photo is made by the German photographer. I assume, that during civil war in Spain. Best regards Alex

This photo was taken during Atlantic and Mediterannean combined Fleet Exercises in March 1931, shows HMS Nelson on left, the Depot Ship Lucia on right, with I think the submarine M2 alongside. Note on photo states 100 ships took part, Those were the days!!
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Some of us even ran up it:)

[QUOTE=DaveC;71747]This photo was taken during Atlantic and Mediterannean combined Fleet Exercises in March 1931, shows HMS Nelson on left, the Depot Ship Lucia on right, with I think the submarine M2 alongside. Note on photo states 100 ships took part, Those were the days!![/QUOTE] Smashing photo take a month dutch sundays to ID that lot Easier now though as it would be the whole naval fleet:eek:

[QUOTE=qprdave;71751]Good picture Dave I was in the dry dock in the forefront 41years, all but a month, when we all flew out to join the Russell in April 72. Not so many ships were there then.[/QUOTE] Are you really that old? Monkey glands are wonderful things:D

Dave c What a great photo you posted ,tho i have a book on "GIBRALTAR" that is the clearest i have seen. Those cruisers that are at a buoy in mid harbour ,appear to be only secured bow buoy , No stern buoy ,so there must have been a large swing ,during the tides. Those ships that are at anchor , just off the middle mole .would not be able to do it after WW11, as the boom defence nets , were dumped about that area, .......as on the ARLINGHAM we had diver,s on board to check um out . Those "boats" {subs} that are along side that depot ship , what has that one berthed on the out side , got on it,s casing ??? cylla

It's the crane onboard M2 to raise the aircraft onto the launching runway. The V&W Destroyer in the drydock Could be either WRYNECK or WALRUS Regards Dave

Here is another photo I found from my grandfather's collection, the comment on the back reads "Atlantic Fleet battles the Storm' 23.1.1932 Striking pictures just received of the arrival of the Atlantic Fleet at Gibraltar, for the Spring Cruise, after a very stormy passage and delay by gales, the 5 day trip occupying 8 days :- photo shows HMS Nelson, Fleet Flagship entering Gibraltar(Flag of Admiral Sir John D. Kelly KCB). I also have a few photos of the 1931 joint Atlantic/Mediterranean Fleet Exercises of similar quality, but I will start a new thread as a gallery if anyone is interested.
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re: post #24[QUOTE]This photo was taken during Atlantic and Mediterannean combined Fleet Exercises in March 1931, shows HMS Nelson on left, the Depot Ship Lucia on right, with I think the submarine M2 alongside. Note on photo states 100 ships took part, Those were the days!![/QUOTE] Great photo DaveC. Aside from HMS Nelson I see HMS Queen Elizabeth, Revenge, Malaya, York (in sequence behind Nelson), the lovely Renown (center) and probably Iron Duke. Monty

I agree with Monty - dont know how I missed this one. A great picture of Nelson, Dave.:)

Hi Terry I have a number of good photos of the "Nelson", one sitting in the the Locks on the Panama Canal in 1931,(A tight Fit) the caption says"The largest battleship to negotiate the Panama Canal to date", and the other is of her firing a salute to other ships during the 1931 combined Atlantic/Med Fleet exercises, but I am not sure where to post them, as on this thread it seems inappropriate. maybe I should start a thread with a photo gallery of the 1931 Fleet exercises?

Dave I would very much like to see your pictures. I would suggest putting them here - which is our designated photo-gallery for Nelson and Rodney... [URL]http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1747[/URL]

Was lucky enough to spend 3 years there working in the Commcen inside the Rock itself and when not there I DJ'd at the Fleet Pav and various other clubs both service and local. Saw the transition from old paper tape communications to the then modern computer system Only been back twice whilst in civvie street Danny

While still wonderfully intrigued by Dave's beautiful photo (from post 24), I thought I'd have a go at identifying the various warship on scene. Please feel free to agree or disagree. Monty
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You could well be right with your names. Wonder if Telemachus is alongside Nelson and Walrus in the dry dock?

Hi. The Russian protected cruiser "Bogatyr" in Gibraltar of 1907-1908. Photo from the archive of family of the commander S.P. Slavinsky's served on this cruiser. Best regards Alex
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[QUOTE=Alex Shenec;70498]Hi. The photo is made by the German photographer. I assume, that during civil war in Spain. Best regards Alex[/QUOTE] You are right Alex, all ships wear Neutrality Stripes on their B gun mount. So it was Spanish Civil War

A photo from an old eBay auction, reportedly Gibraltar in XIXth century.
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Great photo, it looks as if they were expecting trouble, all that ammo.

Help !!!!! I have "googled" for dry docks at Gibraltar, and i have found nothing of the small one that was only a stone throw from "coaling Island " towards H.M.S Rooke. From the time i was living out there ,in the dry dock at the time was a minesweeper. It is such a long time ago {1974},i carnt remember her name ,but she must have been having a refit. I would like to know , how old it was ? had it been apart of the time they built H.M.S ROOKE? Thou i have a book on Gib ,there is no mention of it . The size of it was no bigger than a shoe box,would it originally have been built for the dockyard craft ? It is one part of Gib ,i have never learnt about. cylla

[QUOTE=DaveC;71747]This photo was taken during Atlantic and Mediterannean combined Fleet Exercises in March 1931, shows HMS Nelson on left, the Depot Ship Lucia on right, with I think the submarine M2 alongside. Note on photo states 100 ships took part, Those were the days!![/QUOTE] Dave Great picture of Gibraltar. Thanks for sharing it. Mel

I think this picture was taken in 1939 or thereabouts and assume it is in the area of the Receiving base ship HMS Cormorant. David
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david verghese. That,s a photo i have not seen before , the dry dock i mentioned in my last post ,is up in the left hand side of the picy. cylla

Hi Cylla, The photograph in the post above is from a magnificent series of photos posted by Forum member Alan Gamblin on 23 January of this year. Here is the link so you can see his uncle's photo collection of Gibraltar in the period 1938-39. [url]http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5891&highlight=Gibraltar+1938[/url] Here is another photo, courtesy of the Gibraltar Museum. I like it since its caption names the warships lying at anchor in 1939. HM ships are - Sussex, Nelson, Newcastle, Shropshire, Warspite, Revenge, Malaya, Ramilies, Royal Oak, Glorious, Glasgow, London, Hood, Repulse, Devonshire, Rodney, Sheffield, Guardian, Reliant and Aurora. I am hoping that BCRenown(Monty) can identify them and label them individually like he did regarding the post on this thread of 25 September 09. David
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[QUOTE=Wafu;71754]Some of us even ran up it:)[/QUOTE] I found it more relaxing using the cable car.:D Here are a few happy snaps I took on the last time I visited the Old World.
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