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I hope this thread has not been started b4 i dont want detention........ This rather sorry looking wessex 3 belonged to hms devonshire whilst on a families day the clever woo flew too close to the ship, one of the rotors clipped the superstructure and the cab ditched think it was around 1976/77
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Steve - could you please reply to the private message I sent you?

BARRINGTON recovering a downed bird from BULWARK in Bangor Bay 29 June 1957. Steve Any chance of a larger copy of your previous picture ? Also any idea as to the ID of the salvage vessel ? Regards Dave
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[QUOTE=rumrat;74708]BARRINGTON recovering a downed bird from BULWARK in Bangor Bay 29 June 1957. Steve Any chance of a larger copy of your previous picture ? Also any idea as to the ID of the salvage vessel ? Regards Dave[/QUOTE] The aircraft is a Gannet AS.1 XA390 belonging to 820 Sqn FAA. 820 Squadron — Received nine Gannet AS. 1s at Eglinton on March 7, 1955. Embarked in HMS Centaur during January 1956 for operations in the Mediterranean and Far East, after which the squadron relinquished its Gannet AS. 1s into storage at Donibristle. Formed up at Eglinton on July 30, 1956, with eight Gannet AS. 1s. Embarked in HMS Bulwark in June 1957 but was disbanded on December 2, 1957 XA390 had the hold back break early on cat launch. Ditched 05/07/57 over the bow of Bulwark while she was anchored in Bangor Bay. Crew picked up OK and aircraft recovered by HMS Barringtion a week later. "We were at anchor in Bangor Bay, Belfast, and there was a very strong wind..it was a typical dull grey windy North of Ireland day. They decided that because of the strong wind, it was like cruising into wind for normal take off or launches. The Gannet was on the Port catapult and applied normal full power for launch. The strop broke prematurely during the runup and she went off the end at slow speed. The Gannet just missed a civilian sailing dinghy that was racing around....the crew of the dinghy (a husband and wife) recovered the crew, and they came back alongside. The crew of the aircraft were unhurt, and the crew of the dingy were given a gift of safety equipment." All the above information taken from [url]www.pprune.org/archive/index.php/t-383390.html[/url]

dave im afraid it wont increase in resolution but i have added another of the same incident where the recovery vessel and cargo are just passing the three block of flats on the gosport side in bound to the harbour.... ill do some research on the name and as you can see some of the letters are just visible on the bow regards steve
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[QUOTE=rumrat;74708]BARRINGTON recovering a downed bird from BULWARK in Bangor Bay 29 June 1957. Steve Any chance of a larger copy of your previous picture ? Also any idea as to the ID of the salvage vessel ? Regards Dave[/QUOTE] Dave 99 % sure its RMAS GOLDENEYE P195

Yes i tend to agree on GOLDENEYE the only other contender would have been GARGANEY and she was Malta based in mid 70s. Regards Dave

Bit of info on the chopper. 18/07/1978 Ditched into the English Channel off the Isle of Wight after the rotor blades struck a lifeboat davit (hoist) on the side of HMS Devonshire during the ships farewell voyage. Allocated to A2698 at Lee On Solent.

this lynx being recovered onto rfa engadine is xz 243
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[quote=warshipdisposal;74561]I hope this thread has not been started b4 i dont want detention...... a [/quote] You seem to have got it wrong Steve - if a thread has been duplicated neither myself or any other moderator would do anything else other than resolve the situation by carefully merging them both which does take time. Of course there would be no need to hope that a thread has not been started before if a member starting a new thread played their part by quickly searching through the list of galleries, or alternatively typing NAVAL AVIATION MISHAP" in the search box above before posting. It would take a little bit of effort and maybe a couple of minutes of time but surely worth the effort to help with the smooth running and overall quality of the forum?

Lynx XZ243 was operated by 702 sqdn at Portland. She ditched of the Portugese coast 11 March 1988 with the loss of both crew. Here she is 3 days before.
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On the Far East deployment in 77/78, one of the Tiger Seakings (820 Sqn??) ditched and was recovered to sit on top of the Boat Deck. A spare Wasp appeared from one of the RFA's and was given to Tiger although what tasking it could carry out is open to question.

I was paid a visit to the Accident Investigation hanger at Yeovilton while I was based there. It's an eerie place, there was the remains of the two seater harrier that went into the blackdown hills while on a test flight, pilot and engineer both killed. There were two harriers that had ditched of the front of a carrier, apart from some front end damage they acctually looked in good condition. There was also a seaking, can't remember if it was a mk3 or mk5/6, it had suffered an internal fire, the pilot ditched it in the water to put the fire out. The aircrewman in the back was quite badley burnt but they all survived. Finally there was a Lynx that had crashed killing the observer (Toby Beale) who was an ex air mechanic, nice lad. Quite an interesting sight but a bit morbid at the same time.

here is another photo from the collection of leslie prentice of a prang onboard an aircraft carrier.the photo has no information on it so i cannot tell you much about it only that the guy with the watering can was being a bit optamistic:rolleyes:
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I see that one of the planes has a letter 'O' on its tail fin. I wasn't a fleet air arm bod so I must ask if I would be right in assuming that the ship is HMS Ocean? best wishes Jan

I'm no Naval Air Arm expert but those aircraft look like Seafires or Seafuries, they were flown in the Korean war, don't know the significance of the O.

[QUOTE=oldsalt;77323]I'm no Naval Air Arm expert but those aircraft look like Seafires or Seafuries, they were flown in the Korean war, don't know the significance of the O.[/QUOTE] These are Seafury's and the "O" would signify HMS Ocean, the other carriers to operate these were Glory and Theseus. I guess "G" & "T" would be on the other aircraft tails.

i'll second you there keith, seafuries and a couple of fireflies and the "O" is definately for ocean

[QUOTE=faakeith;77327]These are Seafury's and the "O" would signify HMS Ocean, the other carriers to operate these were Glory and Theseus. I guess "G" & "T" would be on the other aircraft tails.[/QUOTE] Theseus did have the deck code "T", but Glory carried the code "R". Deck codes were originally allocated randomly. Sometimes they coincided with the ship's Name (as with Theseus), mostly not: Triumph was P, Victorious was S, later V after her reconstruction, Indomitable was A, Centaur completed as L but soon changed to C, Albion was Z until 1958, Ark Royal was O until 58 then R and Eagle was Jfrom 51 to 56 when she became E and Warrior was J from 56 to 58. There are other examples of course. The Frech Navy was and is a part of this system which is why Clemenceau was given the deck code U instead of C. Foch had F, and the modern day Charles de Gaulle is G. HMAS Melbourne began life with a Y on her deck until the 60s when she got the more appropriate M, and her sister Sydney was K. The Dutch Karel Doorman (ex HMS Venerable) was D.

"G" and "T"? - I'll drink to that! Sorry for being frivolous.

Karen - Chalky`s daughter - emailed me an old photo of her Dads that she recently found of this carrier mishap and we thought it might be of interest to others here in the forum. Karen thinks it might have been taken aboard Victorious as it was one of the ships Chalky served on. Its hard to tell but I think the aircraft involved is probably an Albacore. Anybody else have any views?? Thanks again Karen for sharing this photograph with us. :)
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The aircraft in post #21 is a Fairey Fulmar two-seater fighter. Difficult to identify the ship, but it could well be VICTORIOUS; the camouflage pattern on the flight deck appears to match a diagram of VIC, although not much is visible here. Tim

Thanks for that Tim - I should have realised as the albacore is a biplane more like a stringbag...

Is there anybody out there that can help me Identify this ship please...It would mean a great deal to me if it was the VICTORIOUS..... Karen

You must all remember this one. Whilst operating from HMS Illustrious a Sea Harrier caused an international incident on 7 June 1983 when pilot Lt Watson landed the aircraft on a Spanish freighter Alraigo after an avionics malfunctions left him without contact with the carrier and out of fuel. The landing area used on the Alraigo freighter was the base plate for a telescope that was being shipped to the La Palma Observatory in the Canary Islands. The aircraft partially slipped off its temporary landing platform onto some containers and was eventually off-loaded from the Alraigo at Santa Cruz in Tenerife and was returned to the UK on the MV British Tay. [ATTACH]64695[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]64696[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]64697[/ATTACH]
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Back at my Dad's house......Mystery solved of the Photograph..It is the Victorious...taken in 1941...will attatch more Photo's on my return to Portugal.

Thought it had to be! Thanks Karen for letting us know.

[QUOTE=emason;89029]You must all remember this one. Whilst operating from HMS Illustrious a Sea Harrier caused an international incident on 7 June 1983 when pilot Lt Watson landed the aircraft on a Spanish freighter Alraigo after an avionics malfunctions left him without contact with the carrier and out of fuel. The landing area used on the Alraigo freighter was the base plate for a telescope that was being shipped to the La Palma Observatory in the Canary Islands. The aircraft partially slipped off its temporary landing platform onto some containers and was eventually off-loaded from the Alraigo at Santa Cruz in Tenerife and was returned to the UK on the MV British Tay. [ATTACH]64695[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]64696[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]64697[/ATTACH][/QUOTE] Great set of pics. Any port in a storm;)

shar now on display at tangmere museum

Here is an interesting pair of photographs.In picture#1 this Sea Hornet F20 of 801 squadron has lined up high and right for land on.He is the second of a pair to land on.His CO has just landed and is parking.Picture#2.Having clipped the Island with his starboard wing,he has crashed on deck and slid into his CO's aircraft,which still has its Engines running.A fire is just beginning to take hold.Fortunately no one was injured.The Incident happened on HMS IMPLACABLE in 1948....Regards Steve.
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Scimitar with defective nose wheel landing into the crash barrier on HMS Ark Royal c1965/6
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this photo has just come into my possession this week. A HELCAT 5A,piloted by the CO of 1839 Squadron FAA comes to grief,landing on HMS INDOMITABLE in 1944. Regards Steve.
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great up dates thanks all

In 1958 onboard HMS Victorious, we lost so many Whirlwinds, MkIV's 824 Sqdn I think, that they were all sent ashore to Yeovilton, where they were required to hover just above the deck until they crashed, turned out to be the clutch. We had a dragonfly replacement to fly SAR.

Recovery of a Fairey Firefly from the deck of (probably) HMAS SYDNEY in the very late 1940's or 1950's.
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Hi Everyone In the mid to late 1960s, we flew into RAF Gan in the Indian Ocean for a week's Search and Rescue standby. The runway at Gan ran the whole length of the island so, if you overshot, it got a bit damp. As we landed, we could see a RN Sea Vixen lying off the end of the runway, with the sea lapping around it. After refuelling, locking and chocking our Shackleton, we headed for the transit lounge where we met some of the RN recovery team. Naturally, a good bit of humourous banter started, along the lines of 'if you want to fly, join the Air Force.' This came to an abrupt halt when the pilot of the aircraft was produced - an RAF Flight Lieutenant! Mel

A couple of pictures of a recovery of a ditched sea King from HMS INVINCIBLE.
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A few aircraft mishap photographs taken on board COURAGEOUS between 1935-37. I have plenty more if anyone is interested. Regards Dave
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More Please Rumrat. I'm an ex-handler, what do you expect!:D:D Sheldon

I am in agreement with Sheldon, Dave. As many as you have got please!! :):)

I'm sure I read somewhere once that an early FAA(?) flight from Daedalus resulted in the shearing of the roofs from the Lee-on-Solent beach huts with in one case deeply embarrassing results for the two inmates - can anyone confirm? It would have been before all your days I am sure!

Here's a few more airy planes from the COURAGEOUS album. Enjoy Dave
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[QUOTE=rumrat;142927]A few aircraft mishap photographs taken on board COURAGEOUS between 1935-37. I have plenty more if anyone is interested. Regards Dave[/QUOTE] Excellent pics, the more the merrier.

[QUOTE=seaJane;142985]I'm sure I read somewhere once that an early FAA(?) flight from Daedalus resulted in the shearing of the roofs from the Lee-on-Solent beach huts with in one case deeply embarrassing results for the two inmates - can anyone confirm? It would have been before all your days I am sure![/QUOTE] Yes seaJane you are right except it wasn't Lee on Solent it was Stokes Bay just along the coast. Early in the 1930's, the submarine M2 launched its aircraft piloted by Lt Keighley-Peach RN with an observer aboard mainly to impress the tourists in Stokes Bay. On it's 2nd circuit of the bay the engine stalled and the aircraft crashed into 6 beach huts. Fortunately there were only two minor casualties. A Dr Lamplough who had minor cuts and bruises and a 7yr old boy named Norman Temperton who had his deck chair smashed under him, half the buckle torn from his left shoe and a small tear in his coat. Lt Keighley-Peach told the doctor whilst being rescued that he had "A light machine with a rather heavy passenger" Within 2 hours the aircraft was removed by the RAF to Lee on Solent. If you get the chance to read the full story it's quite amusing but I guess that for those on the beach that day it must have been rather a frightful event. Sheldon

Sheldon, Thank you for that. Where was the story published, do you know? There are no beach huts on Stokes Bay any more :( (I drive along it every day on my way to work).

Originally in the Portsmouth Evening News but I'm afraid I don't have the dates. It can also be found in the book "Wings Over Gosport" by Lesley Burton- Which is a published by The Gosport Society. ISBN 0-904418-03-0 at £4.95. Sheldon

Thank you again Sheldon. I will investigate. sJ

Clive (Dreadnought) mentioned it here: [URL]http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?p=104405&highlight=stokes+bay#post104405[/URL] [QUOTE] On the 29th June 1930, [I]M2[/I]’s Parnall Peto N182 aircraft was launched near Ryde, Isle of Wight. Whilst circling for a landing place off Lee-on-Solent, N182 stalled over a row of bathing huts on Stokes Bay beach, and ended up knocking down six of the huts and burying the nose of the plane in the shingle. The two airmen were unhurt. [/QUOTE]

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