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Thought I would try to kick something 'historic' off here with some photos from Australia - mainly the NSW Government Printing Office records. They're all pretty big photos, captions on the thumbnails, and more detail on request. Hope you enjoy, and that some may add from their collections. K.
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Great idea! Here are some photos of the French training vessel "Borda" ex-three-decker "Valmy" (120 guns). She was commissioned in 1849 and took part in the Crimean War (in bombardment of Sevastopol, October 17, 1854, in particular). In 1856 she returned France and was disarmed. In 1863 she was re-equipped to school-ship and renamed the "Borda" (Borda No.3).
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Some great images from a bygone age, I can just about smell the hemp.

Thanks, and Antoine those French four-deckers truly are spectacular. The second last aerial pic in your post is stunning. I've tried to put two sides of that mock naval fight in Sydney Harbour together below - and my 'aerial' of a little unnamed RN frigate in Sydney in 1870 here (pic) is taken from a hill!
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I dont know if these have been looked at but there are many pictures of similar old ships in these threads... [URL]http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1609[/URL] [URL]http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1792[/URL] Anyway thanks for these pictures as there are some good ones here that I have never seen before.

Thanks. Well, here's another one I doubt many have seen. Thousands lined Recreation Pier in Baltimore to see the historic USS [I]Constitution[/I] when she called in 1931. From A. Aubrey Bodine book: [I]'Chesapeake Bay and Tidewater[/I]' Bonanza Books, 1980.
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I feel composite steam and sail is cheating just a little, but ... this photo, not quite full size, is still interesting. The Sutherland Dock on Cockatoo Island was completed in 1888, and was conceived to fit the Great Eastern - the greatest steamship of the day. As it turned out, the dock was originally only 635ft in length and 84ft wide at the entrance, and 32 ft deep, while Great Eastern was 680ft long with an 82ft beam. But it never came to Australia anyway. The dock was lengthened to 690ft in length and 88ft width in 1927, and somehow could accomodate the light fleet carriers, although [I]Melbourne[/I] was 703ft LOA from memory. Nonetheless she entered the Sutherland Dock to havenew bows fitted on the event of both her collisions, and the dockyard history comments that 'there was little room to spare,' with the flight decks overhanging the dock sides and stern transom and quarter deck jutting out 'well over the gate.' THe Captain Cook Dock a mile or two East at Garden Island was completed in 1945, and it remains one of the largest graving docks in the world. It is 1133ft in length, 152 ft wide, and has a depth of 45ft. Therefore it could take a Nimitz Class supercarrier, 134ft wide at the waterline, although I'm not sure whether the flight deck overhanngs, almost doubling that, would create a problem.
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Some more sail days, and transition era, from Sydney. The point of distinction with the other thread here is that my photos are mostly, but not exclusively RN - although I may have gone with the other threads Terry has mentioned had I been aware of them. And the subject does not quite fall into a simple search category. Anyway, at least going wider has brought that wonderful post from Antoine, and the amazing French four-decker ships. Hope folks like these.:)
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Photos of the French school-ship (since 1866) "Bretagne", ex-screw-three-decker (130 guns):
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Next French school-ship -- the "Couronne":
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Antoine, those postcards are simply priceless - and filled me with curiosity. What was life like on these floating castles? Who did all that laundry in the last postcard? And, most of all, was Victor Hugo ever on these ships (the lithograph below is from a Gutenberg edition of [I]Les Miserables[/I]). Suddenly I feel a bit ignorant about that, and it's too late here now for me to start finding out. Anyway, I thought you might enjoy this article from the New York Times in 1888, comparing the French and British navies ... [url]http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9A00E0DC153AE033A25755C0A9679C94689FD7CF[/url] I'll post a wrap up of my last days of sail in Sydney (mostly RN) tomorrow. But I can't compete with these postcards. Thanks so much for posting. Please don't hold back if you have any more. EDIT: our last posts crossed. Thanks again. EDIT AGAIN: Antoine, if you haven't seen it, you should look at a post I made earlier today in Shore Leave 'Collector's Corner' - the amazing bone ship models made by French prisoners during the Napoleonic wars.
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Thank you, Jeff! I'm continuing. Various French vessels:
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Out of active service:
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Great thread guys! Nice to see sail! Regards Charles

And several photos (unfortunately the resolution isn't high:() of the aviso-transport "Bougainville":
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Yet again magnificent posts Antoine. Thanks again for them. I want to look at these pics and postcards much longer to soak up both the atmosphere and detail - but I'm hurrying out of town today. Here's my final wrap-up of the men 'o war under sail from the old days on Sydney Harbour. Just a couple of these 'remainders' could be captured large unfortunately. Nonetheless...they're historic:
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Nice photos gents. Thanks for posting. Cheers Bruce

A few more to add to the collection. Regards Dave
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Some great pictures Dave and others.

Once again the Sydney Harbour. The Russian corvette "Rynda" at Sydney, 1888:
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Well done guys, excellent pix Mik

An unusual set of the French ironclad warship [I]Atalante[/I] in the Fitzroy dock at Cockatoo Island, Sydney, August 1873. And good grief, the foreshores opposite look positively rural. .. (EDIT: I belatedly see it's actually two pictures, both reversed and sorry, I haven't yet worked out which directions are correct). They are from the State Library of NSW, and these notes accompany the pictures. Titled from illustration in the Town and Country Journal, 23 Aug 1873 Merlin describes this image "... One of the solar pictures which I took on the occasion of my last visit to the Atalante, of which an engraving accompanies the present pen-and-ink sketch, is taken from the rocks to the north-west, and shows her "ram," with its massive projecting extremity of solid brass, her swelling sides, portholes, section of the dock, and men at work. The steps to the bottom of the basin as well as itardepth [i.e.interdepth], are fairly indicated. Probally there is no one more difficult to please in procuring a picture of this kind than the landscape photographer himself. I may therefore be permitted to say in behalf of the one referred to, that it gave me satisfaction. ... " Quote from `The French ironclad, Atalante / by Beaufoy Merlin, (Photographer to Holtermann's Exhibition.)' in the Town and Country Journal, 23 Aug 1873 (p.241)
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[QUOTE=kookaburra;46125]An unusual set of the French ironclad warship [I]Atalante[/I] in the Fitzroy dock at Cockatoo Island, Sydney, August 1873. And good grief, the foreshores opposite look positively rural.[/QUOTE] Jeff! I have no words!:eek:

[QUOTE=Antoine;46195]Jeff! I have no words!:eek:[/QUOTE] Say nothing Antoine - here's another one of her with a fine coat of white paint.;)
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Thanks from me too Dave for that excellent contribution: I've just caught up with it, and am still taking those pics in. Meantime... 1. HMS Sparrow, Redbreast or Goldfinch class composite gunboat, built by Scott, Scotland, and commissioned in 1890, 805 tons. 2. Same ship, as New Zealand government owned training ship, NZTS Amokura. - both photos Alexander Turner Library, published in Ross Gillett's Australian and New Zealand Warships, 1914-1945. 3. USS Kearsage, off Garden Island Sydney, date unknown. SLNSW. 4. HMS Volage, in Lapland for transit of Venus, picked up off a merchant navy website.
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Truly an excellent thread guys. My one regret of my time at sea was that the only large sail ship I saw was the Malcolm Miller - a sail training ship. A nice sight but too far off to get a pic of her, but I never saw anything like the Amerigo Vespucci et al under full sail at sea. What a glorious sight it must be! Mik

Such Italian oldies:
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Italian training ships of 1930s:
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Antoine Pic #3 is very interesting with the old and the new means of transport, plus it is the only pic showing the sails up!! Mik

[QUOTE=mik43;46851]Antoine Pic #3 is very interesting with the old and the new means of transport, plus it is the only pic showing the sails up!! Mik[/QUOTE] I had been thinking just the same thing Mik. With the sepia tint it's the aeroplane that looks out of time there! This thread has brought such wonderful contributions. Another world Anyway, a few more from Down Under ... Atalante with her sails raised; I think La Hogue which appears in many photos is on the passenger run to Australia but is a former 74-gun RN frigate; and a very beautiful unnamed three-master in two pictures ...
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Some Russian cruisers with sails up:
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Hi guys, interesting thread so I thought I'd stick these up. I was in England a couple of weeks ago and visited Chatham Historic Dockyard in Kent where they have a recently restored Royal Navy sloop from 1878, HMS Gannet, here's some picture's I took of her, sorry there a bit dark, it was an overcast day and the awnings didn't help. I didn't bother with any interior shots as there is nothing to see really inside, the engines were removed in 1913 when the ship was converted to a floating Cadet Training ship, TS Mecury. The dockyard are going to attempt to find or fabricate the engine, (a compound steam unit) and the twin boilers, propeller (which was retractable) etc, hope you like them, Aidan.
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HMS Gannet part two, BTW, if you want to take any copies, just go ahead and help yourselves, Aidan.
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