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KMS Munich in 1/72 Scale World Naval Ships Forums Archive

KMS Munich in 1/72 Scale

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I'm currently Building a 1/72 scale model of a Z plan light German cruiser that was designed in 1938. She would have been molst likley named Munich. Here is a picture of the bow deck plan.
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A few more deck plan shots.
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some progress pics.
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new pics basic hull frame guids
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working on the bow
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Thanks for posting these Haratio, it's getting more and more interesting and I look forward to watching it evolve. Jim

What method are you using for the hull? You're filling the frames up at the moment with scrap wood, what are you applying on top of that?

I am so sorry, my PC crashed and I lost you all in the mix, and I have re discovered the Forum. I will ad updates. I have been working to a dead stop on the Munich, and started writing a Book about the Plan Z ships and their design histories. I have also been learning 3D graphics as to illustrate this book, and to enable me to make parts for these projects on 3D printers that I am getting soon.

some pics of the project continuation. I am using Bondo, auto body filler to fill in the mold plug.
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Some of the 3D work of the ship, for the book.
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more body work.
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Haratio: I'm assuming this is Cruiser "M" which was laid down in '38 and cancelled in 39 ? Bill

Yes and as Far as I know it was never given a name, however there was speculation in Germany that the Name would have been Munich. I obtained a copy of the line drawings from the Bundes archives while I was stationed there in 1990, and have seen the same drawings posted on Dreadnaught.org but as far as I know there are no existing blue prints or extensive plans for this and most of the Z plan ships. It would be a gold mine if some one found some hid in a trunk in a basement somewhere. Anyway I am drafting plans, 3D drawings for about 10 ships for the Z plan based on any and all information I can get a hold on.

I had a little time so I thought I'd do a few more pics.
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Here is a beginning 3D angle shot.
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I mentioned in the 3D section about the book that I am writing about the ship designs of the Z plan. I have most of the writing done, it is just taking me a bit to draw the 3D graphics for it. I have been drawing the hull, and gun turrets for about 6 weeks now. I started learning a program called Blender and I think I have come far in 6 weeks time, however I have a long way to go. I also have 4-3D printers on order from Canada that should be able to print down to the 2 micron range, and I'm slightly irritated because they were suppose to be here in December. I am suppose to Beta test them but they keep finding improvements to do on the design. They should be awesome machines. They are from a company called Preachy Printers. Anyway I think I could have already made masters for my gun turrets and radars and such, so that's one of the hold ups on my project. The other is that I am waiting for winter to stop so I can finish building my work shop and move my projects from My living room to the shop.
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more progress pics
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Haratio, I hate to be the harbinger of bad news, but I feel this very worthwhile project is doomed to failure from the very start.;) Am I qualified to declare this?? Yes, indeed I am.:rolleyes: On what do I base my judgement?? The cleanliness and tidiness of your workshop my friend.:D;) Your workshop does you credit sir and I sincerely wish you all the best in the building of this warship. In my humble opinion, 1:72 is a great scale to work from and I assume the finished article will be around ten Imperial feet long at waterline. Forget the opening paragraph of this post, only teasing.:D Great to see such work, attention to detail and tidiness to boot, something that my 1:72 creations have never come across.:D:o Keep up the good work and I shall watch this thread with interest. Kind regards, Sandy.

LOL You had me scared for a second there, and I was going to explain that I am building a workshop in an old garage that is next to my house. in the pictures the quote un quote workshop is my living room, and pourch. and a table saw that I have outside. I should be finishing the workshop this spring and be able to move the whole project mess in there, and organize it much better. I have worked in very messy environments in the Army, and very neat ones in the Navy. I do prefer the neat ones, but have made good stuff happen in the mud. It depends though if your repairing a tank, or a fighter jet LOL. The Hull of the Munich in the pics is 8 feet, 8 and a quarter inch in total length which is 1/7s scale for just over 179 meters and the line drawings match that. This can be a bit confusing because the Germans measured over all length from the back of the ships where the bottom of the ship started the curve on the bottom of the hull. so this line plans show the overall length to be 176 meters and don't say anything about the -3 meters in the back of the ship. Any way TY for the compliment. Smooth sailing as always. Haratio.

Ty for the kind comment. here are some pics of the next stage.
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Thanks for the updates via images Haratio. Coming along nicely and great to see you utilizing curves where available.;) That's what scratchbuilding is all about. Sandy.

Just a quick question, are You the same sandy that's building the French destroyer in 1/72 in Scotland?

Haratio, the short answer to that is "no".;) If you look in the modelling threads, I built the 1:72 scale HMS UNDAUNTED; the 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY, the HMS BARHAM to HMS RENOWN conversion and the HMS OCEAN (again 1:72 scale) refit with its owner Robbie. The build logs are all on this forum, including many shots of the most untidy workshop in the Universe.:o:D Kind regards, Sandy.

I'll find a few pics of the destroyer that I spoke of, and I will look at your posts. Rodney is interesting. I think Rodney and Nelson had to be 2 of the ugliest Battleships ever constructed. I don't mean any offence by this its just a personal opinion. I always thought it was to bad that Bismarck sunk the Hood instead of Rodney. I always liked the KGV class and the British battle cruisers. I also played with building a 1/350 scale Montana class (BB69) USS Main, however I started researching the Z class issues and want to bring these ships to life for the world to see. Along with writing a book about the design of the ships, and drafting them, I am considering making construction video's for You Tube and mini documentaries about them. Here is a few shots of my Montana class project.
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I starter the Foil Tape on the Hull to emulate metal plates.
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Hi Haratio , and welcome to the Forum ....been looking at your thread and glad to see you here , Belay the modesty expressed by Sandy .......he is an excellent modeller but suffers from severe modesty ;)

[QUOTE=ivorthediver;10109016]Hi Haratio , and welcome to the Forum ....been looking at your thread and glad to see you here , Belay the modesty expressed by Sandy .......he is an excellent modeller but suffers from severe modesty ;)[/QUOTE] Ivor, a few posts back Haratio mentioned that RODNEY and NELSON were probably the ugliest battleships ever produced. My success with the RODNEY build comes with the fact that I was born the ugliest baby in the world ...... and then my Dad hit me in the face with a frying pan.:D "Be ugly ............................................. build ugly".:D:D:D;) (Now there's modesty for you).;) Apologies Haratio, but a little humour every now and then helps the thread along.;) Keep up the excellent work.:cool: Sandy.

LOL I was an Ugly baby also. My mother used to breast feed me through a straw because she didn't want my head that close to her, so to this day I won't drink using straws. anyway the humor is welcome. and here is a few more project pics.
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Thats a novel way of showing the plating Haratio , is this an exhibit only , and not going to get her butt wet :confused:

This is a mold plug that I intend to use for making half bathtub molds, then I can produce as many RC hulls as I wish in this scale, I then can also use the mold plug for a static model if I wish, but I want to see how the RC hulls will come out first. Here is a pic of a nice project that will never get wet.
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Right that all makes sense now ...............Ah brilliant model ......love all the time spent on detail Haratio .......always pays dividends .......and shows that you are single minded in your efforts ......well done

Amen to the above Haratio.;) Our club members tended to disrespectfully call our Escort Carrier models "Ironing Boards". (I built HMS PRETORIA CASTLE in 1:72 scale). They would notice immediately that you have TWO ironing boards in your image .....................................................................:D:D Brilliant model by the way and the flight deck is well laid out. Great attention to detail and a credit to you. Sandy.

Exactly my thought Sandy ...........it changes an ok model into superb model ....so well done

Ty for the compliments. That carrier is the Gamblier Bay and its not mine, it was done by a friend on another forum. He built it in 20 months. He rearranges the Airplanes, and crew, and uses it for war games. I call him the King of Styrene. I have practiced to make things like some of his work, but I'm still waiting to get my 3D printers.

some more progress.
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Coming along fine Haratio.;) Is the gap (between the forecastle deck and shelter deck) the flight deck? Plating is brilliant, well worth the effort.;) Sandy.

The gap houses a airplane well, hanger in the center line, and torpedo launchers to both sides on that level with the weather deck roofing over it in that area.
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some more.
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Amazing model have not seen plating done like that before very effective

Haratio! Wha hoppin? Did life get in the way of modelling? Please show us more of your beautiful boat.

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