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RN Destroyers: C Class (1943) World Naval Ships Forums Archive

RN Destroyers: C Class (1943)

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The C class was built in four flotillas of 8 vessels, the "Ca", "Ch", "Co" and "Cr" groups or sub-classes. On looking through the photographs of the CA's there are two photo's of Cavendish the one on the left has her Pennant No as R 15 and the one on the right supposedly shows her as D 15 refuelling from HMS Arbitter the ship in the photograph is not Cavendish note the twin 4.5s in turrets all the CA's had single mountings. I suspect this ship is HMS Loyal. any input much appreciated.

Hiya Big Al D15 has got the same twin 4.7s as the "J", "K" and the Tribals. As you say the "C"s had single 4.5s. This photo is a mystery to me too.:confused: Perhaps Melv or John Brown can shed more light on this. Alan B

Hi Allan, HMS Loyal was the only one I could come up with, as her original Pennant No was F 15, but the wartime system of Pennant Nos changed and the Cs were R Cavendish was R15 and reverted to D 15 after the war and kept this till she was scrapped in 1967.

A clue is the pacific blue/grey camo visible on the ships hull. Searching the listings in “Pendant Numbers 1944-1945” by Lt Cdr. John M Maber RN (retd) Warships Supplement 104 (British Pacific Fleet – Destroyers), HMS Nizam had the Pendant D15 from 1944 – 45, returning to G38 on leaving the Pacific. HMS Nizam was a N Group Javelin Class Destroyer, these ships had the same gun mounts as the one in the mystery picture. Hope this solves the problem? Regards AlZictorini

AlZictorini I think you've hit the nail on the head Nice one, nuvver prob solved. Alan :D

Hi I have this photo of an un-named destroyer with the pennant D 15. I assume because of the twin 4.5 mounts that it is of Nizam rather than Cavendish?
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This is Cavendish, Terry (6th Destroyer Flotilla) Not Nizam.

If you say Ton - but what about what was written in the first post in this thread? I always thought it was Cavendish until I read that!

I meant the pic you posted on page #6. That is Cavendish. Haven't checked the CA file yet.

C class destroyers, would any of the members have any pics of "chequers"...i have a mate ,who is in the association ,and meets each year,......and i know he would be most great full ,if you could , oblige, it would make a old matelot very happy. :) cylla

How's this Cylla ?
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Do you think he would want one from the air as well? Bob.
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Hi Cylla - I have got a few although they are not brilliant.
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That is really great of you all, for putting your selfs out for me ...i am going to send them to him via e.mail. ....we got to know each other last year ,and hope to meet again this year. cylla

If you lookk back through the earlier posts you will find other stuff about Chequers; I asked if anyone had any memories of her commission in 1949/50 in the Med. My father was the flotilla gunnery officer and Prince Philip was the first lieutennent. They served mainly in the Med but were sent to the Persian Gulf when the Iranians nationalised the oil refinery at Ibadan. All best tim

PS. Tribals were equipped with four twin 4.7 main armament not 4.5...one of which, "Y" was subsequently replaced with one of the twin 4" dual purpose mountings sure everyone knew that!

Re picture 4 This must have been Mac's draft before he joined the Unwanted with all that smoke and steam!!!!!!!!!!!

OK David [Mousey]. I have now cleared the decks for you to start loading your pages tomorrow! I look forward to reading them!!:)

[quote=astraltrader;9249]Hi I have this photo of an un-named destroyer with the pennant D 15. I assume because of the twin 4.5 mounts that it is of Nizam rather than Cavendish?[/quote] Forgive me for going off at a tangent ,but I notice on most pictures of ships, presumably entering port , have the crew mustered on deck, fore and aft, but who is the one just aft of the bow standing alone please, and what would his "Duty" be in that situation ? Regards Ivor

[quote=ivorthediver;50465]Forgive me for going off at a tangent ,but I notice on most pictures of ships, presumably entering port , have the crew mustard on deck, fore and aft, but who is the one just aft of the bow standing alone please, and what would his "Duty" be in that situation ? Regards Ivor[/quote] He is the Officer of the Foc'sle. That is his place when everyone is "fallen in" for entering/leaving harbour. When everyone "falls out" and the ship is about to come alongside the Bunting Tosser will go up there ready ro raise the Jack. Unless it is before "Colours" or after "sunset"

I think you will find that he was called the Cable Officer. Ivor, I like the mustard bit, I am sure you had mustered in mind before the error? Bob.

Was it Comus that took a shell hit in the for'd boiler room during the Korean war?

[quote=oldsalt;50519]Was it Comus that took a shell hit in the for'd boiler room during the Korean war?[/quote] Not strictly Comus but the attached may be of interest to all those who served in or are interested in the C Class. Note 3 more attachments to come as there appears to be the limit for one posting? With all due acknowledgements to the author and publisher. Re Chequers please also see thread about Sliema Creek. Best wishes to all.
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[quote=oldsalt;50519]Was it Comus that took a shell hit in the for'd boiler room during the Korean war?[/QUOTE Herewith one of the final 3 attachments of general interest. I will have to obtain advice from the Moderator re the other 2 which are possibly over the limit for single attachments - 2.23 mb and 2.55 mb respectively. I will post the page on Comus asap. I dont know about Comus' boiler, have not read that page yet but have a look at Concorde's turret!
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[quote=oldsalt;50519]Was it Comus that took a shell hit in the for'd boiler room during the Korean war?[/quote] Herewith page on Comus as promised.
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[QUOTE=astraltrader;9249]Hi I have this photo of an un-named destroyer with the pennant D 15. I assume because of the twin 4.5 mounts that it is of Nizam rather than Cavendish?[/QUOTE] I think those are single mounts fwd, not twins.

Chieftain on North Sea exercises 1955
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[QUOTE=oldsalt;50519]Was it Comus that took a shell hit in the for'd boiler room during the Korean war?[/QUOTE] Hopefully the final four - I have split them into single pages which may need a 90 deg turn? Apols about the quality but hopefully its better than nothing?
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[QUOTE=oldsalt;50519]Was it Comus that took a shell hit in the for'd boiler room during the Korean war?[/QUOTE] Comus making smoke as promised and the Chequers photos turned 90 degs. Thats all for now.
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H.M.S CHAPLE. What this all about {...only leaving the mess to work whilst at sea ...}...i don't think so ,i spent many a hour in the fender storage on the Mohawk at sea ,before starting another duty in the S/R,s dining . And look at the state of Scylla,s flight deck.....ah wot.. cylla
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[QUOTE=CYLLA;50697]H.M.S CHAPLE. What this all about {...only leaving the mess to work whilst at sea ...}...i don't think so ,i spent many a hour in the fender storage on the Mohawk at sea ,before starting another duty in the S/R,s dining . And look at the state of Scylla,s flight deck.....ah wot.. cylla[/QUOTE] Would that be Chaplet Cylla? Glad someone has looked at my initial efforts. Got to take the rough with the smooth. At least it was not been for nowt?

Hi DAVE , Can you remember the time,s out of working hours ,and you were apart of the " sea boats crew" ....sitting about by the sea-boat ,either reading a book [ you bought of sew sew ,no piccy,s]or just loafing about ,getting bronze,and getting paid for it .......oh happy days. That,s the days we had "whalers " for sea boats ,not rubber ducks...... cylla

[QUOTE=CYLLA;50843]Hi DAVE , Can you remember the time,s out of working hours ,and you were apart of the " sea boats crew" ....sitting about by the sea-boat ,either reading a book [ you bought of sew sew ,no piccy,s]or just loafing about ,getting bronze,and getting paid for it .......oh happy days. That,s the days we had "whalers " for sea boats ,not rubber ducks...... cylla[/QUOTE] Imagine trying to pull or should I say paddle a rubber duck along the 1 mile regatta course. Anyone remember the whaler races in Grand Harbour for the What ??? Cup. Believe the RFAs were allowed to enter? Also the tricks some got up to in order to make their whalers lighter. Was'nt a rule introduced that they had to be capable of being dropped as a sea boat/lifeboat?

[QUOTE=Mousey;50529]Not strictly Comus but the attached may be of interest to all those who served in or are interested in the C Class. Note 3 more attachments to come as there appears to be the limit for one posting? With all due acknowledgements to the author and publisher. Re Chequers please also see thread about Sliema Creek. Best wishes to all.[/QUOTE] A few more of the 1st D.F. CH'S. Apols for poor quality but in those days we 'poor' boys/od's could only afford 127 film type cameras - open out Kodak's with black bellows. David.
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Mousey, would love to see all these these pix scanned individually !!

Rik do you mean the 5 of the 1st D.F.? Does it make a difference one at a time? Herewith my latest offering of Chequers off Suda Bay and 3 of her in dry dock Malta. All in 1951 I think. I have done them seperately so that you can compare them with the 5? All poor due only 127. Some of our crew came back onboard via the supporting beams, after having had a few of course! I was very impressed of the foto showing TWO destroyers side by side in the same dry dock. Cant remember the thread? The placing of the beams had to be spot on. I would not fancy walking around underneath though.
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MOUSEY, Was this the photo ,you were referring too ,of two ships in the same dry dock ?? cylla
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FISH & FISHING PART 1. Fotos in both parts were taken by self from Chequers in May 1951 apart from the one from Chivalrous. Not up to good standard due Kodak 'open out' camera, black bellows and looking down into a prism smaller than a oxo cube, with 127 film. Please bear that in mind when you are looking for the depth charge in PART 2. Anyone apart from Tim remember that type of camera? Now got a Nikon Coolpix S210 the size of a credit card. Still learning to use it!
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FISH & FISHING PART 2. In those days I believe fish cost about £2k? Woe betide anyone who lost one. Imagine the work involved in lowering a boat, towing the fish back, getting the 'rope' round it so it balanced and then getting it back on board. Wonder if anyone out there was involved in doing it and can enlighten us? Believe the depth charges were 'war surplus?' Certainly in my time there seemed to be no problem dropping one when we wanted fresh fish for tea. David.
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[QUOTE=tonclass;51246]Mousey, would love to see all these these pix scanned individually !![/QUOTE] Good Evening Rik. Please clarify which pix you wish me to scan in singley? Hope my latest efforts are ok? I am very impressed with the way you can magnify them on this site. I have not seen the detail before so ye olde Kodak was not so bad after all. 127 alls forgiven. Regards David

I dug into my album and found the attached photos. I had posted two of our crash boat, HMS Charity, on passage to Singapore in 1949 in a different thread but have repeated them here for those who might have missed them. They were taken from the flight deck of HMS Triumph. The other two are of HMS Cockade when she was part of the group escort off Korea. From memory, the jackstay transfer was the doctor attending a casualty aboard Cockade. He looks remarkably cheerful about it. Ken
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Hi David. Have sent you a PM.

[QUOTE=CYLLA;51314]MOUSEY, Was this the photo ,you were referring too ,of two ships in the same dry dock ?? cylla[/QUOTE] Thats the one Cylla. TKS V.M. Sent an earlier thank you but seems to have disappeared? David.

Some pix of [I]Chieftain[/I]
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[quote=tonclass;51524]Some pix of [I]Chieftain[/I][/quote] Great pics ...love to see them stretching the steel a bit

[QUOTE=ivorthediver;51535]Great pics ...love to see them stretching the steel a bit[/QUOTE] You wouldn't say that if you was on a Type 14 (Blackwood Class) Frigate. They would roll in the Pool of London!!!

[quote=qprdave;51546]You wouldn't say that if you was on a Type 14 (Blackwood Class) Frigate. They would roll in the Pool of London!!![/quote] Yea but not so bad below the water line...... Eh

[QUOTE=tonclass;51524]Some pix of [I]Chieftain[/I][/QUOTE] Great photos they bring back many memories of my time on Chieftain 1955/56 we certainly got around in those days, Brian.
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PUZZLE PICTURE ~ PLEASE PROVIDE THE ANSWER I took the attached in April 1953 in Leghorn. On the reverse I noted "Sqdn PTI showing off with a prodgy." The puzzle is ~ where was I standing when I took it? I cant figure it out? Are we lookig at A or Z gun? What is that low 'barrier' in the foreground? I will check this thread with genuine interest. Thanks in antic. David.
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'A' gun David. You can see the jackstaff and anchor cables.

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