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RN Destroyers: C Class (1943) - World Naval Ships Forums Archive (Page 8)

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Thanks for those Danny - as you say it is certainly an impressive bronze memorial. I must get around to seeing it. :)

[quote=CYLLA;10078529]Hi Danny , Great images , But i believe No 1 and No 2 are of her Transmitting room [guns] And no1 being the "box 10 " and no2 being the " tallboy" I have a very good idea " scurs" will correct me if i am wrong , or any other fc2 on the forum . The white shell looks like a "star shell" practice cylla[/quote] Photos 1 and 2 are definitely of the Transmitting Station (TS). The equipment is part of the Flyplane 5 system. On the left nearest the camera would sit the below layer, next to him the rate keeper (follows the rate of change of range) and at the far end, the below trainer. My understanding was that in wartime the facing box of gear (we called it the tallboy) would be manned by three gunnery control ratings but I managed it on my own. Corrections to line and lateral deflection would be applied here as ordered by the PCO (Principal Control Officer), wind speed and direction applied - and this is the guy that fires the guns when in below (radar) control and the ship is firing broadsides. In rapid independent fire a switch is made so that the firing circuits are in a permanent 'on' state and a gun will fire when the interceptor on the gun itself is made. When gunfire is not under radar control the director layer will fire the guns when in broadside fire mode.

The C Class destroyers were notorious for inboard "goffers", I was nearly washed over board on the Caprice in the Indian Ocean 1967, when a freak wave washed down the Starboard side. Later in the year whilst she was at Portland sadly a Chinese laundry man was lost overboard. I wonder how many other crew were lost in this way? Dave

Don't know about that Dave .I remember been in the Indian Ocean when me and the PO of the WOD were washed halfway up the after screen on the iron deck (torp deck) by a big un we were fastened to the safety line fro FWD TO AFT A few cuts and grazes sustained nothing bad

Guess you can count yourself lucky Les.

Hello [URL="http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10056219&postcount=51"]PhilMeds[/URL], I've just joined this forum after browsing the Carron. I was one of the boys that came aboard the Carron on that Saturday morning, there are still a few of us left. You might have remembered me, I was the one with his arm in plaster but still managed to get about. I remember we was in the mess and the TV mains cable was removed from the plug without taking the plug out of the socket. Happy days.

Greeting "The Vicat", ?. So glad that you have found this great Forum. I have attached the Information sheets and the "Freedom Of the City", Pass we were each given. Due to the state of the weather, I was one of those who spent all the time there as one of the Cox'n driving the ships motor Boat, or looking after our "Guests". I never did get ashore, prehaps after all this time I will visit and see if the Pass still works. The years since then have been seriously busy but I do have a vague memories of the whole event. With regard to the T.V. plug, etc; as the ship only had one third of it's normal war time crew, we were after-all a Training Ship, some things were not done in keeping with "Normal" R.N. Routine. However, we did manage to always complete any task the ship was programmed to carryout, as you are the living proof of our capacity to overcome. I venture to add that the Royal Navy is and always has overcome each and every problem it ever incountered, including the KIDNAPPING OF SCHOOL CHILDREN. Please keep in touch, you can send private message via the Forum. Philip.
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[B]CAVALIER & CHATHAM DOCKYARD ANNIVERSARIES [/B]Cavalier as you know is now preserved in her 1972 format in Chatham Dockyard. The ship of course is considerably altered from her Wartime outline inasmuch X Gun was removed and twin Squid Throwers were inserted in its place during the 50s refit. The 66 refit saw the torpedo tubes removed and the twin bofors removed and a Seacat Missile mounting replaced them. This year in April their Association celebrate the 70th year of her launch! These celebrations will coincide with the 25th Anniversary of Chatham Dockyard becoming a museum. Regarding the large bronze memorial Wartime Destroyer plaque referred to and including photos on the CA thread * the site's below contain photos and reports. The Duke was a good choice for unveiling it having been Jimmey on Chequers under Killer Mike. Reckon the wardroom had more two and a halfs and commanders than any other small ship. [URL]http://www.hmsacasta.co.uk/destroyer%20memorial.html[/URL] [URL]http://www.thedockyard.co.uk/HMS_Cavalier/The_Destroyer_Memorial/TheDestroyerMemorial.html[/URL] [URL]http://www.flickr.com/photos/42117802@N06/6301681650/in/photostream/[/URL] [URL]http://www.thedockyard.co.uk/Home[/URL] * Suggestion to the Mods. Should'nt the CA Class and C Class destroyers threads be merged? They were all the same basic design. One difference being the early ones were rivetted and the others welded. The officers and men were all one family? There are even seperate threads for single ships of the class. If all were merged those interested would see the big picture without chasing from one thread to another?

Two threads merged. :)

[quote=astraltrader;10105499]Two threads merged. :)[/quote] Thanks Terry. :D

[quote=astraltrader;10105499]Two threads merged. :)[/quote] Great results, Terry! Many thanks. Alick

[QUOTE=SmartAss;10088763]The C Class destroyers were notorious for inboard "goffers", I was nearly washed over board on the Caprice in the Indian Ocean 1967, when a freak wave washed down the Starboard side. Later in the year whilst she was at Portland sadly a Chinese laundry man was lost overboard. I wonder how many other crew were lost in this way? Dave[/QUOTE] When undergoing full power trials off Spithead CAPRICE lost a Junior Seaman when turning to port. Green water rushed down the iron deck and three or four seaman were washed down to the quarterdeck.

[QUOTE=tim lewin;9437]PS. Tribals were equipped with four twin 4.7 main armament not 4.5...one of which, "Y" was subsequently replaced with one of the twin 4" dual purpose mountings sure everyone knew that![/QUOTE] I'll bet the housekeeping money that no Tribals ever sported a Mk6M director. :)

Before there is any accusations of censorship after a long hard thought we decided to remove all the posts that veered off topic into a thread title dispute. We ask that future posts be confined about this class of ships only and please not about the thread title.

[QUOTE=D01Caprice;10105570]When undergoing full power trials off Spithead CAPRICE lost a Junior Seaman when turning to port. Green water rushed down the iron deck and three or four seaman were washed down to the quarterdeck.[/QUOTE] On one occasion when I served in CARRON, we did a RAS off Portland. Lower deck was cleared and all of us junior rates were employed taking the strain on the line on the starboard side of the iron deck, when a particularly large goffer lifted us all up and left most of us caught against the guard rails. Most lost our footing and only by hanging on to the line were we stopped being swept overboard. Harry Grimmers for a short while, as I recall.

With regards to crew overboard, the last posting reminded me of two events that were both tied to one certain Scouse Avery, Leading Electrician, on Carron first commission as Dartmouth College Navigation Training Ship. In every ship there is always found that one person who will receive the attention of the regulating Branch and meet the Captain more than most of the ships company with his hat in hand, I.E, in trouble. Souse Avery was such a man. During the ships visit to Gibraltar he bet a mess-mate his daily rum ration that he could balance on the Quarterdeck stern rail while we were turning as the ship was approaching Harbour. Don't ask how he came to be on the Quarterdeck, he just was. You will not be surprised to learn he fall overboard. At the Captains Table for Defaulters the Captain was informed by the "Defendants Friend" that he was sorry and had no defence for delaying the ship while he was recovered. The Captain was informed of the wager and expressed his hope that Avery had paid his debt. Avery said he had and the Captain then informed Avery that he would now stop the next 30 days Rum ration and hoped that Avery would enjoy the delights of Gibraltar viewed from the ship as he also stopped his shore leave for 14 days. As my place of work was the Operations Room, I always overheard "Captains Table as it took place on the open bridge right above me. My First encounter with the Scouse was on the occasion that I was being promoted, by age reached, to Able Seaman. Scouse had just preceded me in getting promoted to Petty Officer. After my 30 seconds of doubtful glory, I went down the ladder to the Operations room. From my listing post below I heard Avery’s name called again. Avery was called to the table, ordered to remove his cap and the charges were read. The Captain said, “Avery, even for you, this has to be a new record, in the space of two minutes you have managed to become a Petty Officer and then get reverted to Leading Rate by your own hand. I wish it was not so.” The reason for my remembering Scouse after all this time, is unfortunately, he did not change his ways. While the ship was moored in the River Dart, below the Collage, the town gave the ships company a dance at the Town Hall The Town Hall overlooks the river and has a balcony above the front door. Scouse, after many drinks informed everyone that he could jump from the balcony onto the top of the car parked below. Sadly he landed between two cars and died later in hospital. He was probably only in his early 30’s. Scouse was one of the hardest workers who found the time to help us youngsters. Being a training ship we were only one third of normal complement and I was one of only two Radar plotters. As both of us had just come straight from our first Radar Course, initially everything was odd. We were on a ship that did not do most of the things we had been trained for and the operations room was only used as a chart house. Scouse Avery was one of those who can be found on any ship in any navy, who helps the “New Guy”. I hope that many other in the Forum have encountered such men, who are the salt of the earth.

[QUOTE=PhilMeds;10111866][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]With regards to crew overboard, the last posting reminded me of two events that were both tied to one certain Scouse Avery, Leading Electrician, on Carron first commission as Dartmouth College Navigation Training Ship.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]In every ship there is always found that one person who will receive the attention of the regulating Branch and meet the Captain more than most of the ships company with his hat in hand, I.E, in trouble.[/SIZE][/FONT] Scouse Avery was one of those who can be found on any ship in any navy, who helps the “New Guy”. I hope that many other in the Forum have encountered such men, who are the salt of the earth. [/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE] Great dit Phil - funny but tragic, given his unfortunate end. As you say, every ship has (and needs!) a character such as Scouse ... and the navy would be a much poorer place without them. I have certainly encountered such men in every ship in which I sailed ... have enjoyed them all and often had to restrain myself from laughing out loud listening to their stories when having them in front of me at Defaulters.

Have rescanned picture of Carysfort at a higher resolution If memory serves me it would be 1968 not 1969 FMG
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[quote=FMG;10112719]Have rescanned picture of Carysfort at a higher resolution If memory serves me it would be 1968 not 1969 FMG[/quote] Many thanks for the rescan. :)

[quote=FMG;10112719]Have rescanned picture of Carysfort at a higher resolution If memory serves me it would be 1968 not 1969 FMG[/quote] Any idea of the ship the photograph was taken from.

The photo was taken by me from HMS Diamond 1967-69 final commission. I have wracked my brain trying to place the location. Looking through a magnifying glass it looks like the crew are wearing shorts. In the album the photo is in the Beira patrol section. Perhaps Diamond relieved her. FMG

[quote=FMG;10113091]The photo was taken by me from HMS Diamond 1967-69 final commission. I have wracked my brain trying to place the location. Looking through a magnifying glass it looks like the crew are wearing shorts. In the album the photo is in the Beira patrol section. Perhaps Diamond relieved her. FMG[/quote] Many thanks, I like to keep as much info in the .jpg as I can, hopefully someone will appreciate it in the future.

[QUOTE=FMG;10113091]The photo was taken by me from HMS Diamond 1967-69 final commission. I have wracked my brain trying to place the location. Looking through a magnifying glass it looks like the crew are wearing shorts. In the album the photo is in the Beira patrol section. Perhaps Diamond relieved her. FMG[/QUOTE] A friend of mine, who was onboard during the last commission, says "Beira Patrol 1968. If memory serves me correct Diamond was late relieving us (mechanical problems) so we pelted her with spuds although that was fairly traditional."

[B]FASTEST SHIP IN THE FLEET [/B]Just in case you do not read the Cavalier thread. Please note where the proceeds are going to.
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Cool! I want one! Bigger Guns, MORE POWER! :cool:

Comet 1953,Steam past in honour of El Silasi of Ethiopia.
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[B]HMS CASSANDRA [/B]I have been asked to pass the following on: Shipmates, On Thursday 11th December 2014 it will be the 70th Anniversary of the torpedoing of "Cassandra" in the Barents Sea. A special Memorial Service will be held in the D-Day Museum in Southsea commencing at 1200 to remember and commemorate the event. Admiral Sir Jock Slater will be attending and taking part in the service, together with Rear Admiral John Hervey the Patron of both "Cavalier" and the 8th Destroyer Association of which I now have the honour of being it's Chairman. The service will be conducted by Chaplain James Francis of the Portsmouth Chaplaincy and the Reverend Duncan Harris Chaplain of the 8th Destroyer Association. Full symbolic use will be made of the ship's bell throughout the service. In addition to our own standard also parading will be the standards of "Cavalier", "Caprice" and the 8th Destroyer Association. A Marine Bugler has been engaged to play the Last Post and Reveille. All "Cassandra's" are welcome of course and I would ask you to spread the word and ask members to let me know if they are coming. There will be refreshments in the Dulverton Room in the Museum after the service so I will need to know who are coming for catering purposes. Dress of day will be Association blazers, ties and flannels; medals are to be worn. On completion of the ceremony and refreshments we shall repair to the Royal Marines Club in Eastney for drinks and a wind down. Yours Aye Cliff Longfoot Hon. Sec. HMS Cassandra Association.

[QUOTE=limawhisky;10118364]Comet 1953,Steam past in honour of El Silasi of Ethiopia.[/QUOTE] Great photo, limawhisky! Thank you for sharing it. I have only just stumbled on it. I served onboard two CA class destroyers and appreciate action photos of the greyhounds of the seas. Best wishes

[B]CAVALIER [/B]Why is she 'in chains' ? Section of news was in relation to - [URL]http://www.thedockyard.co.uk/plan/events/war-games/[/URL]
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[B]COSSACK [/B] "PLUTO" ~ HMS COSSACK "Pluto the dog", the mascot of HMS COSSACK stood on the lap of one of the ship's company as a group of them pose during torpedo and anti-submarine exercises. Photo taken by Lieutenant S.J. BEADELL, Royal Navy official photographer. Photo from the Imperial War Museum, London.
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[B]SOME INFO [/B]C-class Destroyer (1943 – 1945) The C class was a class of 32 destroyers of the Royal Navy that were launched from 1943 to 1945. The class was built in four flotillas of 8 vessels, the "Ca", "Ch", "Co" and "Cr" groups or sub-classes, ordered as the 11th, 12th, 13th and 14th Emergency Flotillas respectively. The sub-class names are derived from the initial 2 letters of the member ships' names, although the "Ca" class were originally ordered with a heterogeneous mix of traditional destroyer names. A fifth flotilla, the "Ce" or 15th Emergency Flotilla, was planned but were cancelled in favour of the Weapon class destroyers after only the first two ships had been ordered. The Pennant numbers were all altered from "R" superior to "D" superior at the close of World War II; this involved some renumbering to avoid duplications. They were built as part of the War Emergency Programme, based on the hull and machinery of the pre-war J class, incorporating whatever advances in armament and naval radar were available at the time. Some of the class were completed in time for wartime service. All ships used the Fuze Keeping Clock High Angle Fire Control Computer. The "Ca" flotilla were generally repeats of the preceding W and Z class, while the "Ch", "Co" and "Cr" flotillas had quadruple instead of pentuple torpedo tubes to compensate for the added weight of remote power control (RPC) gunlaying equipment. They also introduced the all-welded hull into Royal Navy destroyer construction, beginning in Contest. Caprice was the last destroyer built for the Royal Navy to be fitted with the ubiquitous quadruple QF 2 pounder "pom-pom" mounting Mark VII. Comet and Contest were fitted as minelayers, and lacked 'Y' 4.5 inch gun. The class were all fitted with two Admiralty 3-drum boilers with a pressure of 300 lbs/sq.in at 630 degrees F. All had Parsons single-reduction geared turbines, generating 40,000 SHP at 350 RPM, and driving the two shafts to produce a maximum of 36 knots (32 knots under full load condition). All were engined by their builders except Cossack and Constance, which were engined by Parsons. Their bunkers could hold 615 tons of oil fuel, giving them a radius of 4,675 nautical miles at 20 knots (1,400 nautical miles at 32 knots). Ships "Ca" (or 11th Emergency) Flotilla This flotilla was authorised under the 1941 Programme. The first pair was ordered from Yarrow on 16 February 1942; the other six were ordered on 24 March, a pair each from John Brown, Scotts and Cammell Laird. However on 12 August 1942 the contract for the last pair was moved from Cammell Laird to White. Their originally-allocated names were altered to new names beginning with "Ca-" in November 1942. The John Brown pair - Caesar and Cavendish - were fitted as Leaders. On completion they formed the 6th Destroyer Flotilla for service in the Home Fleet. At the end of the war in Europe the flotilla was transferred to the East Indies Fleet and the ships arrived on station between August and November 1945, too late to see service against Japan. They remained in the Indian Ocean until May 1946 when they returned home and paid off into operational reserve. The "Ca" flotilla were reconstructed in the late 1950s and early 1960s to be modernised for anti-submarine warfare and to serve as fast fleet escorts. The superstructure was extended aft, and the bridge was modified; the post-refit bridge differed between the first four conversions (Cavendish, Carron, Cavalier and Carysfort) and the later four (Caprice, Cassandra, Caesar and Cambrian) which were given frigate-type enclosed bridges. HMS Caprice (ex-Swallow): Built by Yarrow, Scotstoun. Laid down on 24 September 1942, launched on 16 September 1943, commissioned on 05 April 1944. Modernised 1959. Paid off March 1973. Sold for scrapping 22 June 1979 at Queenborough. HMS Cassandra (ex-Tourmaline): Built by Yarrow, Scotstoun. Laid down on 30 January 1943, launched on 29 November 1943, commissioned on 28 July 1944. Modernised 1959. Paid off January 1966. Sold for scrapping 28 April 1967 at Inverkeithing. HMS Caesar (ex-Ranger): Built by John Brown, Clydebank. Laid down on 03 April 1943, launched on 14 February 1944, commissioned on 05 October 1944. Modernised 1957-60. Paid off June 1965. Sold for scrapping 6 January 1967 at Blyth. HMS Cavendish (ex-Sibyl): Built by John Brown, Clydebank. Laid down on 19 May 1943, launched on 12 April 1944, commissioned on 13 December 1944. Modernised 1956. Laid up 1964. Sold for scrapping 17 August 1967 at Blyth. HMS Cambrian (ex-Spitfire): Built by Scotts, Greenock. Laid down on 14 August 1942, launched on 10 December 1943, commissioned on 17 July 1944. Modernised 1963. Paid off December 1968. Sold for scrapping 03 September 1971 at Briton Ferry. HMS Carron (ex-Strenuous): Built by Scotts, Greenock. Laid down on 26 November 1942, launched on 28 March 1944, commissioned on 06 November 1944. Modernised August 1955 as Training Ship. Paid off March 1963. Sold for scrapping 4 April 1967 at Inverkeithing. HMS Cavalier (ex-Pellew): Built by White, Cowes. Laid down on 28 February 1943, launched on 07 April 1944, commissioned on 22 November 1944. Modernised August 1955 as Training Ship. Paid off March 1963. Sold for scrapping 4 April 1967 at Inverkeithing. Modernised 1957. Paid off July 1972. Sold October 1977 to be preserved as a museum ship, since 1999 preserved at Chatham Historic Dockyard, Kent. HMS Carysfort (ex-Pique): Built by White, Cowes. Laid down on 12 May 1943, launched on 25 July 1944, commissioned on 20 February 1945. Modernised 1956. Paid off February 1969. Sold for scrapping 23 October 1970 at Newport. "Ch" (or 12th Emergency) Flotilla Six destroyers, the first of 26 'Intermediate' destroyers to be authorised under the 1942 Programme, were ordered on 24 July 1942, a pair each from Thornycroft, Scotts and Alexander Stephen. The fourth pair was originally intended to be ordered from Vickers Armstrong, Walker-on-Tyne, but instead were ordered from Denny on 30 July. The Chequers and Childers were fitted as Leaders. HMS Chaplet: Built by Thornycroft, Woolston. Laid down on 29 April 1943, launched on 18 July 1944, commissioned on 24 August 1945. Sold for scrapping 1965. HMS Charity: Built by Thornycroft, Woolston. Laid down on 09 July 1943, launched on 30 November 1944, commissioned on 19 November 1945. Transferred to Pakistan Navy as Shah Jehan 1959, sunk by Indian Navy warships off Karachi 04 December 1971. HMS Chequers: Built by Scotts, Greenock. Laid down on 04 May 1943, launched on 30 October 1944, commissioned on 28 September 1945. Sold for scrapping 1966. HMS Chieftain: Built by Scotts, Greenock. Laid down on 27 June 1943, launched on 26 February 1945, commissioned on 07 March 1946. Sold for scrapping 1961. HMS Chevron: Built by Alex. Stephen, Linthouse. Laid down on 18 March 1943, launched on 23 February 1944, commissioned on 23 August 1945. Sold for scrapping 1969. HMS Cheviot: Built by Alex. Stephen, Linthouse. Laid down on 27 April 1943, launched on 02 May 1944, commissioned on 11 December 1945. Sold for scrapping 1966. HMS Childers: Built by Denny, Dumbarton. Laid down on 27 November 1943, launched on 27 February 1945, commissioned on 19 December 1945. Sold for scrapping 1963. HMS Chivalrous: Built by Denny, Dumbarton. Laid down on 27 November 1943, launched on 22 June 1945, commissioned on 13 May 1946. Transferred to Pakistan Navy in 1954 as Taimur, sold out of service. "Co" (or 13th Emergency) Flotilla The first four of these destroyers were ordered in August 1942 - Comus and Concord on 7th, Contest on 12th and Consort on 14th. The remaining four destroyers were ordered on 12 September; Constance and Cossack were fitted as Leaders. HMS Comus, built by Thornycroft, launched 14 March 1945, sold for scrapping 1958. HMS Concord (ex-Corso), built by Thornycroft, launched 14 May 1945, sold for scrapping 1962. HMS Contest, built by White, launched 16 December 1944, sold for scrapping 1960. HMS Consort, built by Stephen, launched 19 October 1944, sold for scrapping 1961. HMS Cockade, built by Yarrow, launched 7 March 1944, sold for scrapping 1964. HMS Comet, built by Yarrow, launched 22 June 1944, sold for scrapping 1962. HMS Constance*, built by Vickers Armstrongs, Walker, launched 22 August 1944, sold for scrapping 1956. HMS Cossack, built by Vickers Armstrongs, launched 10 May 1944, sold for scrapping 1961. "Cr" (or 14th Emergency) Flotilla All eight destroyers were ordered on 12 September 1942, two each from John Brown, Yarrow, White and Scotts; the John Brown pair - Crescent and Crusader - were fitted as Leaders. HMS Crescent, built by John Brown, launched 20 July 1944, to Canada 1945, sold for scrapping 1971. HMS Crusader, built by John Brown, launched 5 October 1944, to Canada 1946, sold for scrapping 1964. HMS Croziers, built by Yarrow, launched 19 September 1944, to Norway as Trondheim 1946, sold for scrapping 1961. HMS Crystal, built by Yarrow, launched 12 February 1945, to Norway as Stavanger 1946, sold out of service. HMS Crispin (ex-Craccher), built by White, launched 23 June 1945, to Pakistan as Jahangir 1958, sold out of service. HMS Creole, built by White, launched 22 November 1945, to Pakistan as Alamgir 1958, sold out of service. Cromwell (ex-Cretan), built by Scotts, launched 6 August 1945, to Norway as Bergen 1946, sold out of service HMS Crown, built by Scotts, launched 19 December 1945 to Norway as Oslo 1946, sold out of service. "Ce" (or 15th Emergency) Flotilla Two ships of this putative flotilla, the last of the 26 "Intermediate"-type destroyers authorised under the 1942 Programme, were ordered on 3 February 1942 from White. These two ships were to be named Centaur and Celt. However, with the decision to introduce a fresh design of Intermediate destroyer (which became the Weapon class destroyer design), the White orders were amended to the new design and the names of the two ships were altered to Tomahawk and Sword respectively. The Tomahawk was subsequently renamed again, becoming the Scorpion, while the Sword was finally cancelled on 15 October 1945. 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[QUOTE=Pelican;10161135] [B]SOME INFO [/B]C-class Destroyer (1943 – 1945) HMS [B]Crescent[/B], built by John Brown, launched 20 July 1944, to Canada 1945, sold for scrapping 1971. [/QUOTE] They certainly were a most useful class of destroyer. My father was CO of HMCS [B]Crescent [/B]from 1955-1957, after her major conversion.

[quote=Scatari;10161141]They certainly were a most useful class of destroyer. My father was CO of HMCS [B]Crescent [/B]from 1955-1957, after her major conversion.[/quote] The last true [I]Greyhounds of the Sea [/I]Jim. Not often you see 'Two in a bed' ? The only time I experienced a broadside being fired was on Chequers when Tim's father was the Flotilla gunnery officer when he ordered all ships to fire one enroute from Malta to Suda Bay for the fleet regatta in either 1951 or 52. Down in the w/t office I thought that the 'bloody sides were being blown off.' We certainly had a lot of dust to clean up before rounds for weeks after.:) Happy days.
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Pelican, thanks for posting the details of the C class ships - I have a couple of minor points to add: You wrote "...the "Ch", "Co" and "Cr" flotillas had quadruple instead of pentuple torpedo tubes to compensate for the added weight of remote power control (RPC) gunlaying equipment." - I believe that the "Ca" flotilla had two quadruple tube mountings, and the other three flotillas omitted the for'd mounting as weight compensation. In addition to COMET and CONTEST, CHEFTAIN and CHAPLET were also fitted as minelayers - all four were converted some time after completion.

[quote=tjstoneman;10161156]Pelican, thanks for posting the details of the C class ships - I have a couple of minor points to add: You wrote "...the "Ch", "Co" and "Cr" flotillas had quadruple instead of pentuple torpedo tubes to compensate for the added weight of remote power control (RPC) gunlaying equipment." - I believe that the "Ca" flotilla had two quadruple tube mountings, and the other three flotillas omitted the for'd mounting as weight compensation. In addition to COMET and CONTEST, CHEFTAIN and CHAPLET were also fitted as minelayers - all four were converted some time after completion.[/quote] Sorry TJ but not qualified to comment apart from Chequers which had one quad tube mounting which we did fire as mentioned in the pdf, I'll try and dig out the photos, the article came from Facebook, again I'll check my book on the C's and comeback - if I remember! I'm in touch with a crew member of Cossack will check with him. Not heard about those C's being converted to minelaying but I was in Obedient which was. I've found the fish photos - it was easier to fire one than recover it. Interesting to note the numbers on deck when fired and when being recovered? I remember one ship did not recover their's causing them 'problems' as they cost around £2k each in those days.
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[quote=Pelican;10161162]Sorry TJ but not qualified to comment apart from Chequers which had one quad tube mounting which we did fire as mentioned in the pdf, I'll try and dig out the photos, the article came from Facebook, again I'll check my book on the C's and comeback - if I remember! I'm in touch with a crew member of Cossack will check with him. Not heard about those C's being converted to minelaying but I was in Obedient which was. I've found the fish photos - it was easier to fire one than recover it. Interesting to note the numbers on deck when fired and when being recovered? I remember one ship did not recover their's causing them 'problems' as they cost around £2k each in those days.[/quote] MIDNIGHT OIL BURNT AT NO ADDITIONAL COST Attached results from C CLASS DESTROYERS BY HAROLD COX 1994 ISBN NO. 0 9523332 O 1
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[quote=Pelican;10161162]Sorry TJ but not qualified to comment apart from Chequers which had one quad tube mounting which we did fire as mentioned in the pdf, I'll try and dig out the photos, the article came from Facebook, again I'll check my book on the C's and comeback - if I remember! I'm in touch with a crew member of Cossack will check with him. Not heard about those C's being converted to minelaying but I was in Obedient which was. I've found the fish photos - it was easier to fire one than recover it. Interesting to note the numbers on deck when fired and when being recovered? I remember one ship did not recover their's causing them 'problems' as they cost around £2k each in those days.[/quote] Herewith answer from 'Cossack': "As far as I am aware the CAs had ONE set of quadruple Tubes! The Chaplet I believe was converted to a Mine layer others I don’t know."

I joined CARRON in '61 and she had no 4.5s but still had one mounting of four 21" torpedo tubes on the iron deck. I joined CARYSFORT in '64 and she still had three 4.5 mountings but no torpedo tubes on her iron deck. She had squids on top of the after deckhouse.

I joined Contest in 56 and she had been fitted with mine rails and Squid. The mine rails were never used but we did some Squid firing when training ASDIC operators in Weymouth.

The "Ca" class were fitted with two quadruple torpedo tube mountings on completion. The for'd mounting was removed as weight compensation during their modernisations during the 1950s, when Squids replaced "X" mounting, new fire controls and bridges were fitted etc.

Suggested reading, as I have posted before, is Cdr David Hobbs MBE RN's excellent and comprehensive book "'C' Class Destroyers' published by Maritime Books 2012. It's all in the book!

[QUOTE=Pelican;10161162]Sorry TJ but not qualified to comment apart from Chequers which had one quad tube mounting which we did fire as mentioned in the pdf, I'll try and dig out the photos, the article came from Facebook, again I'll check my book on the C's and comeback - if I remember! I'm in touch with a crew member of Cossack will check with him. Not heard about those C's being converted to minelaying but I was in Obedient which was. I've found the fish photos - it was easier to fire one than recover it. Interesting to note the numbers on deck when fired and when being recovered? I remember one ship did not recover their's causing them 'problems' as they cost around £2k each in those days.[/QUOTE] What propelled a torpedo from it's mounting?

[quote=johnny07;10161200]What propelled a torpedo from it's mounting?[/quote] See - [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo_tube[/URL] - no doubt there is a better explanation somewhere on the site or info leading to it.

[QUOTE=Pelican;51511]FISH & FISHING PART 2. In those days I believe fish cost about £2k? Woe betide anyone who lost one. Imagine the work involved in lowering a boat, towing the fish back, getting the 'rope' round it so it balanced and then getting it back on board. Wonder if anyone out there was involved in doing it and can enlighten us? Believe the depth charges were 'war surplus?' Certainly in my time there seemed to be no problem dropping one when we wanted fresh fish for tea. David.[/QUOTE] hi my dad was on the chequers about that time does anyone remember anyone by the name of vernon holt i remember him telling me stories about being on the chequers x

re your post #383, he was always very keen on "artillery" practice, I am too young to remember Chequers, I was there but only 4 at the time, but as a 15 year old I enjoyed some summer sea-time in both Urchin and Tenby and both times we indulged the guns to the max, star shell at night, and target practice in the day. some time between Chequers and the 17th FS was Corunna, if you look in the Battle Class thread you can see pic of guns, torpedoes and squid firing. The open 4" of Urchin made a most impressive Crack when fired, but the 4.5s of Tenby were much more subdued, inside the turret the Bang was very much subdued, the compressed air to blow out the barrels between rounds was almost louder. I thought of him when I organised the salute to D-day +70 with HMS Belfast, posted before but always worth a repeat, be sure to have volumes to full. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49PLv03Af9U[/url] tim

[QUOTE=limeybiker;1718763]Nice one Dave' Sharon and I have taken up cruising in our dotage, got to stop the kids inheriting. The yanks are notorious for asking personal details at these functions. When they ask what I did for a living, I tell them I was a Purser on the Grey Funnel Line, it usually shuts them up.[/QUOTE] Rather than say that I am an ex-matelot I offer that I used to be a hired assassin. Ends all conversations and results in collapse of stout parties.

[QUOTE=siggy63;10078486]Right I've managed to reduce them below the forum threshold which will hopefully now allow me to post some more: Okay so if I've loaded correctly and in the right order you should have on this posting 1. Machinery Control Room 2. Machinery Control Room 3. Main Galley 4. Operations Room 5. Operations Room 6. Operations Room leading to the Sonar Control Room 7. Ladder down to forward Magzine Danny[/QUOTE] The first two photographs are of the tallboy in the Transmitting Station (TS) On the left sat the Below Layer, Rate keeper and Below Trainer. Sitting in front of the tallboy (in Caprice in 1959 a very smart young Seaman, me) setting own and enemy course and speed, wind direction and speed and such amendments as ordered by the Spotting Officer in the DCT. Up and Down ladder corrections were applied here and when firing broadsides, firing the guns when all three gun ready lights were illuminated. When rapid independent firing was ordered a switch was made so that guns fired as soon as the interceptor on the gun was made.

[QUOTE=Scatari;10111868]Great dit Phil - funny but tragic, given his unfortunate end. As you say, every ship has (and needs!) a character such as Scouse ... and the navy would be a much poorer place without them. I have certainly encountered such men in every ship in which I sailed ... have enjoyed them all and often had to restrain myself from laughing out loud listening to their stories when having them in front of me at Defaulters.[/QUOTE] One of the best excuses was from Able Seaman Bloggs of legend and revered memory. He returned on board an hour or so adrift and was paraded by the Cox'n in front of the OOD. Bloggs was living ashore at the time as he had recently married (poor woman). When asked why he was 'adrift' he said that he had domestic problems. He explained that his wife was pregnant. The OOD nodded in understanding, and maybe commiseration, and asked how long she had been pregnant. Bloggs looked at his watch and replied "About 30 minutes."

[B]C CLASS & THEIR PENNANT NUMBERS [/B]For future reference.
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[B]HMS CONSORT[/B] The following is self explanatory. Anyone who is interested or can assist please contact me. "Ray has been given a load of photos re HMS Consort. There is a large framed pic from 1953 in Hong Kong with all the ships co. in whites on the focsle and on the back is a xmas day menu. Also there are photos of what appears to be a Consort Assn. reunion from 2003. There are 2 cloth self stitch Consort Assn.badges with the name Mike Aplin on them. Ray has tried to get in touch with the Assn. but has had no replies. If anyone is interested in the collection or can put Ray in touch with an old Consort matelot then please let us know. Much ta."

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