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Canadian Flower Class Corvettes - World Naval Ships Forums Archive (Page 3)


Canadian Flower Class Corvettes (Page 3)


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Thanks for the comments Brian really appreciated. Regards John


HMCS Napanee Regards John
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HMCS Kitchener Regards John
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[QUOTE=Stokers Son;10136173]HMCS Kitchener Regards John[/QUOTE] Perhaps best known for her role as the fictional corvette HMCS Donnacona in the 1943 movie "Corvette K225" starring Randolph Scott.


Nice shot of Kitchener John..up to your usual standard..Regards Brian


HMCS Sudbury Regards John
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HMCS Camrose 1943 Regards John
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John, I really appreciate you sharing your photos of the Flower Corvettes, one of my favourite classes of Warships, the epitome of World War II convoy escorts. Regards Paul


Once again you have risen to the top John..Regards Brian.


Your more than welcome Paul, good to see that you are enjoying the corvettes. Regards John


Thank you very much for your reply Brian, appreciated. Regards John


HMCS Woodstock Regards John
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HMCS Hepatica Regards John
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HMCS Kamsack Regards John
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HMCS Arrowhead Regards John
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HMCS Quesnel Regards John
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HMCS Agassiz Regards John
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An undoctored version of image 2 of HMCS Arrowhead.
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[QUOTE=Stokers Son;10136231]HMCS Sudbury Regards John[/QUOTE] I always thought that the RN (RCN, etc.) was strict about what we yanks call hull numbers, but this photo, and others show no number visible. Does anyone know why? Thanks.


It was commonplace, during the war, for ships not to display their pennant number on the hull. Post war you will find very few photos of ships in commission without their pennant number on the hull and stern. Jim


Thanks for the info. Does this mean that we can date most (if not all) of the photos of RN/RCN ships with pennant numbers as being pre-1939 or post-1945? signal


What I know about pennant numbers from couple of recognized authors works is that the numbers were removed by censors. The same with some other sensitive details like some weapons, radars and most important Huff-Duff antenaes. In some cases photos taken show "low vis" numbers due to elements, rust etc. Regards, GD


[QUOTE=signal;10142759]Thanks for the info. Does this mean that we can date most (if not all) of the photos of RN/RCN ships with pennant numbers as being pre-1939 or post-1945? signal[/QUOTE] No, that would not be possible, as Greendragon has also stated, the censor removed lots of sensitive equipment, as well as distinguishing marks to keep the enemy in the dark. Seems to be no hard and fast rule for those war years. Jim


I have made quick reference to Ken Mcpherson and Marc Miller Corvettes of the Royal Canadian Navy 1939-1945.(1) There are pictures of all the Canadian corvettes. Couple of them without pendant numbers - brand new ships or on builder trials. Some with "K" and/or figures barely visible. One without pennant, HMCS Sudbury (but apparently after refitting and looking like brand new ship) dated November 1944. Regards, GD (1) I would recommend this book to everyone. Great deal of excellent information, concise but not "dry language". Pictures are well selected and all very good quality. Explains a lot about the ships and RCN, yards, planning and execution of corvettes programme in WW2. Here is a quote very few probably have met before: .. Canadian built corvettes had particular penchant to rust. Professional naval officers especially British ones, put this down to sloppy discipline among Canada's wartime sailors. In fact it was deffect built into the ships as a result of hasty wartime building. The problem was mill scale; that layer of grime left on the face of steel plate after it has been rolled....([I]it was not removed at a "pickling plant" or by weather by stacking it outside[/I]) and used so quickly that the mill scale was still in place when the primer and final paint were applied. A few weeks of wind and salt air removed the scale, and with it all the protection of the steel...


Thanks again for all of the info. I love these "little" ships - which did a big job during the war. No one in peacetime would have suggested such a short hulled vessel for trans-Atlantic service. The crews must have been some pretty tough sailors. Edward


Edward, An extract from the a/m book about the men who manned them: " Actually eighty percent of them were new to the sea, with only handful of key ratings experienced with the operation of weapons and equipment. Most officers were novices and in many corvettes the only qualified watchkeeper - and the only capable of rudimentary navigation was the captain himself... corvettes were young men's ships..in terms of simple safety at sea covettes crews were dependant upon the ability of the captain to stay awake for weeks on end... In 1941 situation was particulary trying for many essentials , such as foul weather gear and duffle coats were in short supply....just for one watch...they (watches) stayed wet until they dried..Other shortfalls ...included telescopes (essential for reading flag signals at long distance) or even binoculars, 20in signal projectors, gyrocompasses [I][I](absolute need for an effective DC attacks[)/I] [/I]and radars - the latter ones being of course in short supply to all Allies navies of course. Water dominated a corvette sailor's life ...it permeated his clothes, his food, his possessions and even his sleep...the main deck was wet even in calm days...There are few instances of men and ships going to war so ill prepared. Nonetheless they did so and with enthusiasm." Was it a difference between HM and HMC corvettes in those early days of war? I do not think so. CDR Sherwood (famous for his outstanding command (acting) and leadership of the escort group B7 in the famous battle in defense of the convoy ONS5 in May 1943) said that at HMS Bluebell (in 1940) among her 52 men crew there were " only three or four who would be capable of any real action of any kind at all". Regards GD


I know that the rapid increase in escort vessels came with a large increase in "landlubbers" going to sea for the first time. What I meant was that crossing the Atlantic in a small rolling and pitching vessel must have been very challenging for the men who were serving aboard such a warship. After one or two such trips, the crew must have become toughened in both body and spirit. Edward


And also damned tired. Regards, GD




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