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RN Frigates: Destroyer Conversions (Type 15) - World Naval Ships Forums Archive (Page 3)

RN Frigates: Destroyer Conversions (Type 15) (Page 3)

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Nice photo of Verulam, thanks for posting it. Looks like she is alongside Q Pier at Portland Naval Base, with a Leander Class on the opposite side and the funnul of RFA Engadine visible over her focsle. Jim

[QUOTE=jbryce1437;10032167]Nice photo of Verulam, thanks for posting it. Looks like she is alongside Q Pier at Portland Naval Base, with a Leander Class on the opposite side and the funnul of RFA Engadine visible over her focsle. Jim[/QUOTE] ... and peeking up in the distance over the Mk10 Limbo mortar well, the mainmast (c/w with radar aerials for types 965 & 278) of either a County Class Destroyer or Converted Tiger Class Cruiser, laying off. Little h

[quote=the Chief;10032126]Another of HMS Verulam.[/quote] Chief, Any idea of the year on that one. She was UDE Trials Ship at the time of the photo - because her armament is gone. I was on her 1959 but this photo seems a tad later. Dave H

I will send off an Email and try to find out. (See my post #185, RN Ships,general; maybe 1973, Portland.)

Hi all you Type 15 buffs. Not sure if this is the right slot for this but I just came across an old ships Christmas card from HMS Relentless when I was on her in 1967? [ATTACH]117947[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]117948[/ATTACH] Oh well happy days!
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[QUOTE=Polycell;152710]Addition to my former posting Zambesi class Zambesi Scrapped 1959 Zealous To Israel 1955 became Elath Zebra Scrapped1959 Zenith To Egypt 1955 became Fateh Zest Type 15 Zodiac To Israel 1955 became Yaffa Myngs To Egypt 1955 became El Qahar Zephyr Scrapped 1958 Wager Class Kemphelt To Yugoslavia 1956 became Kotor Wager To Yugoslavia 1956 became Pula Wessex To South Africa 1950 became Riebeck Whelp To South Africa 1953 became Simon Van Der Stel Whirlwind Type 15 Wizard Type 15 Wakeful Type 15 Wrangler To South Africa 1950 Vrystaat Valentine Class Venus Type 15 Verulam Type 15 Viglant Type 15 Virago Type 15 Volage Type 15 Ulster Class Ulysses Type 15 Undaunted Type 15 Grenville Type 15 Ulster Type 15 Undine Type 15 Ursa Type 15 Urania Type 15 Urchin Type 15 Troubridge Class Teazer Type 16 Tenacious Type 16 Troubridge Type 15 Tumult Type 16 Termagant Type 16 Terpisichore Type 16 Tuscan Type 16 Tyrian Type 16 Rotheram Class Raider To Indian Navy 1949 became Rana Rapid Type 15 Racehorse Scrapped 1949 Rotherham To Indian Navy 1949 became Rajput Redoubt To Indian Navy 1949 became Ranjit Relentless Type 15 Rocket Type 15 Roebuck Type 15[/QUOTE] I find it very interesting that CAPRICE which was commissioned and was hard at it before any of the 'Z" class, outlasted them all by 20 years or more. Their Lordships certainly got their money's worth out of her hull and propulsion machinery.

[QUOTE=rumrat;8042]Another Old ships of mine RAPID on a visit to Newcastle[/QUOTE] Sorry Willie, can't buy that one.:rolleyes: What would appear to be an "armoured belt" is in fact the original hull outline of RAPID's former shape as a destroyer.:D (The ship's side, up to the "Iron Deck"). The original forecastle break is still in evidence after conversion.;) Thanks to the Moderator who navigated to these images. Sandy.

Always here to help! ;)

Not sure if post #107 is in response to [URL="http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10096597&postcount=304"]this post [/URL]on the ships and crews section, but I think Willie could be right as the plated section looks welded, rather than the original riveted plates that would be on the hull. Jim

[QUOTE=jbryce1437;10096673]Not sure if post #107 is in response to [URL="http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10096597&postcount=304"]this post [/URL]on the ships and crews section, but I think Willie could be right as the plated section looks welded, rather than the original riveted plates that would be on the hull. Jim[/QUOTE] Jim, you're quite correct. I posted #107 during lunch break.:o I shall reply on the CAVALIER thread where i should have done in the first place. Sandy.

HMS Ursa..Taranto 1962....Regards Brian.
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Thanks for that one of Ursa ..... she was in the 6th FS with us. I served on two 15's - UNDINE and VERULAM - they were great looking ships. Dave H

a credit to her hard-working matelots, she looks superb. tim

[quote=astraltrader;8051]Thanks for these pictures Dave. I always have regarded these Type 15 frigates as a clever anti-sub conversion of some of the surplus Destroyers the Royal Navy had left over at the end of world War 2. One important improvement buit in to this conversion was in the crew accommodation which as well as being more spacious, provided much better protection against the elements as well as a much better bridge layout. However IMO there was one definite area that really suffered in this conversion - the aesthetics of the ship! In no way could the converted ship be said to be more attractive than the original one - although beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder. To prove my point, I include before and after views of HMS Wakeful. Make up your own mind![/quote] I spent a few weeks of my eng. apprenticeship with Scotts' of Greenock on the Wakeful conversion

[QUOTE=the Chief;10032281]I will send off an Email and try to find out. (See my post #185, RN Ships,general; maybe 1973, Portland.)[/QUOTE] Did anyone date this picture of Verulam. In late 64- 65 she was carrying equipment on the fo'castle which resembled a long crane arm , and further aft 2 portacabins had been constructed. At the time we were told that they were trialling a new submarine sonar code named type 2007 ? One of the more interesting and unusual locations visited with this rig , was the U.S Submarine Naval Base at Groton Conn. Much time was spent with the U.S Navy off this area, presumably trialling

Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't there a problem initially of compatibility with the original steel & the aluminium superstructure.?

i believe you are correct there, this was not a known problem in those days by steel/Al will react (galvanic?) and cause corrosion quite badly. You might remember Austin Healey cars, they used to use an al filler strip between wing/body panels which created the same problem, they were not alone in this as other mfrs experience the same issues. I don't now recall how the T15s were actually "joined together" as of course welding unlike materials cant be done?? tim

[QUOTE=tim lewin;10171364]i believe you are correct there, this was not a known problem in those days by steel/Al will react (galvanic?) and cause corrosion quite badly. You might remember Austin Healey cars, they used to use an al filler strip between wing/body panels which created the same problem, they were not alone in this as other mfrs experience the same issues. I don't now recall how the T15s were actually "joined together" as of course welding unlike materials cant be done?? tim[/QUOTE] This is OT but... in days of yore, 1960's and 70's dissimilar metals, and in shipbuilding that usually meant aluminium to mild steel, joins were completed using a compound strip between the two metals and then riveting/bolting the two together (huck bolts, I remember them well). These joins were not totally satisfactory as over time the bolts failed or galvanic action gradually took hold. Modern dissimilar metal welding comes in two forms, Friction Stir Welding and Laser beam welding and I understand both are successful in preventing any galvanic action. I'm not a boilermaker, welder but my friends tell me this works, how it works I'll have to delve into the books.

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