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A few from me, the one with the Sea King 055 on fly 3 I looked after her for two years, it's the only shot I have of her on the deck and is now my desktop pic.
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Just a few from me, had to include the might MKiv Seaking pride of any squadron...
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thanks seaking nice pics although as usual the phantoms are my fave.

Thanks Lads Nice to see some proper aircraft on the decks ....and of course the dear old Gannet Regards Ivor

The pussers Phantoms folk have their own site so here it is:- [url]http://www.phantomf4k.org/index.cfm?fa=contentGeneric.home[/url] Little h

If you like the Naval Version of the F-4 here is a mega site of pictures. [url]http://www.5053phantoms.com/photos//index.php[/url] Enjoy! Regards Charles

[B][I]The RN Phantom Transatlantic race [/I][/B]participant and story:- [url]http://www.fleetairarmoa.org/pages/images_pages/page79.htm[/url] carry on and read the account of how the RN FAA pilots set up the US's Top Gun school at Mirimar!!!!!!!! and the RAF's Harrier participant (5 hrs 30 mins) [B][I]seen here at HMS Sultan[/I][/B]:- [url]http://forum.keypublishing.com/showpost.php?p=1446497&postcount=5[/url] Little h

Illustrious visiting Liverpool currently for Fly 100 celebrations; see :- [url]http://www.visitliverpool.com/site/whats-on/hms-illustrious-in-liverpool[/url] and [url]http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/operations-and-support/fleet-air-arm/fly-navy-100/news/october-hms-illustrious-visits-liverpool[/url] Little h

For those who havnt seen them already I posted pics of all of Hermes aircraft in the different sections on the Happy H elswhere in the forum, most date from '66/67 commission. tim

I have "rounded up" a few of Tims various threads on the Hermes and put them into this one! [URL]http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114[/URL]

Thanks Terry, after a few years they have got a bit scattered.. tim

today in Liverpool:- [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP6Rq5qqljY&feature=channel[/url] Little h

Hi All. Here is a postcard photo of the old HMS Ark Royal and her Swordfish aircraft that I happened upon in the State Library of NSW [Mitchell Library]. It's included in a huge collection of ships photos - mainly merchant ships - by Ernest George William Best. Hope you enjoy it. K.
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G'day, gentlemen! I have only just discovered this thread and it is just what I need! I have been compiling a history of my brother's FAA career, with copies for myself, sister-in-law and nephews; My brother was an electrician with 846 squadron in 1943 and worked on Avengers and Wildcats, that I am aware of, although I think there were others at different times. I have found pictures of Ravager, Tracker and Trumpeter, (Fleet Escorts) but no aircraft pictures, apart from the one on 846's own blog. Any help greatly welcomed!! Edna

[quote=kookaburra;111704]Hi All. Here is a postcard photo of the old HMS Ark Royal and her Swordfish aircraft that I happened upon in the State Library of NSW [Mitchell Library]. It's included in a huge collection of ships photos - mainly merchant ships - by Ernest George William Best. Hope you enjoy it. K.[/quote] No offence Jeff but that postcard was posted in the carriers thread [post#24] almost two years ago! [URL]http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1864[/URL] Thanks for the info on the Mitchell Library though - I will give it a look over when I get time! :)

A BERIEV 12 of the Russian naval aviation :cool:
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Being not so far away, could not resist this one, a Brazillian SKYHAWK.:cool: The Carrier is the ex French "FOCH" which I visited many moons ago at TOULON............
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Here is a strange bird,I did not know that our Fleet Air Arm ever used them. It's a FIREBRAND TF4.It was used as a strike fighter in early post war years until the long drawn out development of the WYVERN were successfully concluded,for entry into service. Regards Steve.
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First saw service with 813 Sqn in 1945 and 827 later including sea service on Eagle 1952-3

Does anyone know whether the Kittyhawk was used by British ships in WW2? The name has popped up from somewhere and I must try and chase up the context - possibly when my brother was in the States in '43. Edna

As far as I am aware the Kittyhawk was only used by the RAF and Commonwealth air forces, it was deemed not capable enough for the european theater and was used by the Desert Air Force. It was not navalized so if it was carried and flown off a carrier it was in transit to North Africa, i.e. not [U]operating[/U] from the carrier but only launching on a ferry flight.:):)

Hi Edna.I agree with Blaydon's post.I have researched just about every site of the P40,and under all it's other used names.It is nowhere recorded as having been a FAA aircraft or naval aircraft in any other navy. Regards Steve.

Edna - what might explain the reference to the P40 on carriers is that on certain occasions escort carriers were used to [B]transport [/B]these fighters to specific destinations. Just to quote one example the escort carrier HMS Shah on the 7th January 1944 carried both Wildcat and P40`s. Another escort carrier ferried P40`s to North Africa in support of Operation Torch. Although not a British carrier I am sure I can remember reading about USS Wasp ferrying P40s to Iceland sometime during the war. I expect there were other similar examples. Finally just in case anyone is interested this is an excellent photographic-postcard I have showing a P40!
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Thanks, Kev, Steve and Terry. I think the Kittyhawk transport theory is possible. Although it does not seem to fit with the recorded details of his service, I remember my brother talking about taking aircraft to Russia and instructing in their maintenance, and I know he worked with Wildcats so possibly also Kittyhawks, although I believe Avengers was his particular line. I am currently reading up more FAA background - I might eventually find time to get to my father's naval gunnery experience (including Jutland!) Edna

Without a doubt,one of the ugliest aircraft to serve the FAA.The BARRACUDA.Folded on deck it looked as if it had been in an accident! and appeared to be a design joke,but it gave Stirling service as a torpedo bomber.It's folding wings did have one design fault,fortunately overcome in the MK2.The wings were not unknown to fold shortly after take off,leading to a number of deaths.It carried an 18 inch Mk V111 torpedo adapted with a wooden Monoplane Air Tail (MAT) to allow the weapon to be dropped from a higher and faster position,and reduce the time the aircraft was under AA defensive fire. Regards Steve.
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More BARRAS [url]http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43800&d=1240420594[/url] [url]http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36284&d=1235676411[/url]

Hi Jim.Some nice additions.The one of the aircraft on deck,reinforces the idea that she looked like an accident! Though some shots from certain angles made her look like a very beautiful aircraft. Regards Steve.

Steve; How dare you confuse the readership within the range of just 3 posts and some 50mins with the following incongruous and contradictory servings:eek::- [B][I]Without a doubt,one of the ugliest aircraft to serve the FAA[/I][/B] Versus [B][I]Though some shots from certain angles made her look like a very beautiful aircraft.[/I][/B] Dive Dive:p Little h

Little h, I would say form and function would be better suited for these aircraft rather than the appeal of looks. They served a valuable function during it's service life. Regards Charles

I know an ex Barracuda pilot, a member of 'The Fleet Air Arm Asssociation Scotland', I remember commenting on the bad reputation of the Barracuda, but he said he liked it, once they modified the tail, ( from what I remember, when the Youngman Flaps were lowered as dive brakes, and the the pilot pulled back on the stick, the elevator , although in the 'up' position was in turbulence from the flaps, and had little or no effect.) His biggest complaint about the a/c was that the main hydraulic pipe ran across the cockpit just in front of the rudder pedals and became worn from contact with them.The result was a high pressure leak of hydraulic oil which filled the cockpit with a fine mist, not very nice if you are about to land on a pitching deck!. regards

Hi Little h.How deep can you dive?:D:D:D.I still personally think that apart from the COOKOO,it was the ugliest aircraft to see service in the FAA.But even I have to admit that photo #1 that I posted does give the thing an air of grace and beauty.I know,I know it's an oxymoron:p Regards Steve.

Now then, you lads in the back row, stop squabbling. ANYTHING that lifts into the sky and swoops across is a thing of grace and beauty - but let's not think about landings! Edna

Here is a photo,certain to be of interest to Edna & Doug Birch.Though taken on HMS BATTLER,like HMS FENCER she was built in the USA.The wooden deck is unique to US built CVE's.The obviously posed press release photo,shows an Officer adjusting the fuse of a torpedo loaded on a SWORDFISH aircraft.I think it gives a detailed picture of the front end of the Swordfish.particularly the under-carriage and radiators. One strange thing shows up.The carriers appear to have been delivered,fitted out in all departments,every one but the aircraft pilot is wearing American style steel helmets! Regards Steve.
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Steve, well spotted! Very odd, isn't it? But then, the 'media' did it all, even in those days!! Edna

Another strange one of a Swordfish.This time about to be lowered into the water from a cruiser.Date unknown.I assume that the pilot is climbing out of the cockpit,to release the crane sling.Also it would appear that the engine has been started on deck,before being hoisted outboard. Now for the poser! Why is the Junior Rating (3rd from the left)wearing a white cap of modern looking type,and everyone else in dark caps? Regards Steve.
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Steve this picture has appeared in the forum at least twice already. For example it is in post #71 in the link below which is chock full of naval flying boats and float-planes.... [URL]http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1834&highlight=SWORDFISH[/URL] It has also appeared elsewhere in the forum. It just entails typing Swordfish into our search facility and wading through the results! In case anybody is interested the picture shows a Swordfish being hoisted onto HMS Malaya.

[QUOTE=steve roberts;114455]Another strange one of a Swordfish.This time about to be lowered into the water from a cruiser.Date unknown.I assume that the pilot is climbing out of the cockpit,to release the crane sling.Also it would appear that the engine has been started on deck,before being hoisted outboard. Now for the poser! Why is the Junior Rating (3rd from the left)wearing a white cap of modern looking type,and everyone else in dark caps? Regards Steve.[/QUOTE] Intriguing is the word, Steve; what's your explanation for the White Top?? Edna

Hi Edna,the only reason I can think of is that the rating had just returned to the UK from the Middle?Far East,and his kit had not caught up with him.I would have thought that the Master-At-Arms would have had something to say about it thought!!!:D Regards Steve.

[QUOTE=steve roberts;114555]Hi Edna,the only reason I can think of is that the rating had just returned to the UK from the Middle?Far East,and his kit had not caught up with him.I would have thought that the Master-At-Arms would have had something to say about it thought!!!:D Regards Steve.[/QUOTE] Hi Steve; As you yourself might say, Oops-a-daisy!! Edna

One that I have never seen before.LT.CDR G.R. Callingham lands VR546,the prototype GANNET on the deck of HMS ILLUSTRIOUS on 19-June-1950.This was the first time a turbo-prop aircraft had ever landed on a carrier.The LSO seems to be taking a considerable interest in the proceedings after giving the aircraft pilot the"Cut" signal. Regards Steve.
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Yesterday, I spent a very enjoyable day at the annual [I]Planes of Fame [/I]Museum Air Show, at Chino Airport, here in Southern California. Besides plans from the Museum, others fly in from all over the US. Mainly WWII, Korean War and Vietnam era planes, but also a collection of planes from other countries.They have the only flying Zero with its original engine in the World. Anyway I thought the attached photos would be of interest to some of the forum members, specialy ex-FAA Chaps. All these planes flew during the course of the day, and the Hawker Sea Fury did a spectacular aerobatic demo. This plane also competes in the Reno Air Races in Nevada each year. The Fairey Firefly was originally with the Australian FAA on HMAS Sydney during the Korean War. I also included some US Naval aircraft, like the Douglas Skyraider which was on the USS Oriskany which should appeal to Don. Cheers John
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Thanks for posting the photos John,I would love to go to Chino air show! I remember walking around the Scottish air Museum at East Fortune, and got talking to one of the guides, he was very proud of it, and I agreed with him, but I said "There is one thing missing, the smell, the aircraft are all dead!" " You should be like York Viking Museum and pump, at least the smell of hot Avcat into the place" By the way they have some really good exhibits, and it is well worth a visit if you are in the area. Regards

Hi Guys.The IWM sight is similar at Duxford.The static display halls are dead aircraft, but on an air show day,the flight line is out of this world.My special baby there is the B-17 Sally B.I am a life long member of her support to keep her flying,though Wright Cyclone engines are becoming hard to find,and now cost a fortune to have purpose built.This can keep her from flight for long periods.One funny dit about this aircraft.I know one of her part owners and was offered a flight on her.The radio room is fitted with aircraft seats for overseas travel for maintenance crews.We started up and she shook like mad,but taxiing out I said to a nervous lady,"Its OK the vibrations will die down when we take off".They didn't and one circuit later we landed again.The pilot said calmly."I hope our double engine failure did not spoil your Flight".Not naval I know,but these birds are getting more and more expensive o keep in the air. Many Regards Steve.

Attached is a photo of a Fairey III (according to an enthusiast who looked up the tail number). I estimate it was taken in the period 1933-1936, but we're unable to determine what squadron it belonged to. The names on the hats are too small to read, certainly in this copy of the photo. A brief description of this plane that I found says: "The Fairey III served with front-line squadrons 823, 824, 825 from 1933-1936 when replaced by the Fairey Seal and Fairey Swordfish. However it continued to serve with 718 squadron till December 1936 in Bermuda. Antiquated by the start of the Second World War, only two still survived in the Fleet Air Arm in 1939".
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Hi DG, here is my painting of a Fairey111F Launching from HMS HOOD. [url]http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42487&d=1239288269[/url] Regards PS having looked at the photo again, I would say the number could be on the rudder of the A/C behind the one in the foreground, but I could be wrong.

[QUOTE=DGBrown;124497]Attached is a photo of a Fairey III (according to an enthusiast who looked up the tail number). I estimate it was taken in the period 1933-1936, but we're unable to determine what squadron it belonged to. The names on the hats are too small to read, certainly in this copy of the photo. A brief description of this plane that I found says: "The Fairey III served with front-line squadrons 823, 824, 825 from 1933-1936 when replaced by the Fairey Seal and Fairey Swordfish. However it continued to serve with 718 squadron till December 1936 in Bermuda. Antiquated by the start of the Second World War, only two still survived in the Fleet Air Arm in 1939".[/QUOTE] Re the pic; Might this be a class/group of TAG's? I note that all the RN ratings are of the Communications Branch persuasion. However, with the Junior Ratings being stood at ease, there is no way of knowing if they were already qualified, since one can't see a cuff badge (a winged anchor). Neither can one ascertain the same of the Chief Tel. (seated). TAG = Telegraphist Air Gunner Chief Tel. = Chief Petty Officer Telegraphist Little h

I know two of the people, and one of them I know for certain was a Telegraph Air Gunner on a Walrus and HMS Sussex in 1939. Unfortunately I do not know anything about their careers that would help place the picture more accurately. I'm using family photo's to guess their ages in the picture. Thanks for the ideas.

DGBrown The Aircraft appears to be a Fairey IIIF Mk IIIB possibly at Gosport but during the time when it was the Fleet Air Arm of the Royal Air Force probably one of the training flights in the 400 range (i.e. 400 - 499 Flight RAF) who were responsible for training TAGs

Exeter also had a Fairey IIIF at the start of WW2 I thought?

[QUOTE=astraltrader;124553]Exeter also had a Fairey IIIF at the start of WW2 I thought?[/QUOTE] Terry. I don't know the date that Exeter departed the UK prior to the Battle of the River Plate (Dec 39) but she certainly departed carrying a Supermarine Walrus. My understanding is that no ship carried a Fairey IIIF post 1937 but I may be proved wrong on that Sheldon

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