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Old 24-03-2010, 16:42
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Peral submarine (1888)

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The first viable spanish Armada submarine was designed by Lieutenant Isaac Peral, who found ingenious solutions to the problem of underwater navigation, including electrically powered, trim system, a periscope for reflection, torpedo tube capable to operate in immersion and air regeneration system. The design was introduced in April 1887 and Peral was in charge of construction of a prototype. For all purposes, was the first fully operational military submarine in the world (although he was never commissioned as such). Testing reached 8 knots, deep as 30 meters and a submerged time of 60 minutes. In the military test was able to launch a torpedo submerged and at night approached within 400 yards of a ship without being detected. In daytime operations was spotted 1000 meters from the target ship, the cruiser Cristobal Colon, where they were shipped more than 200 guests prevented of action. This caused negative marks in the final report. Although he was charged a new unit of 130 tons, disagreements between Peral and the Armada eventually lead to the end of the program and the disarmament of the prototype.

Structure.
Displacement: 77/85 Tons.
Length: 21.9 m
Beam: 2.87
Draft: 4.07

Armament.
1 tube torpedo-launcher 360 mm (3 units)

Propulsion.
Two electric motors of 22 kW, 60 hp two axes.

Speed
8 knots (surfaced), 3 knots (submerged)

Range
400 miles (3 knots) (surfaced).

Was built a single ship class: Peral


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Peral submarine (1889-1890)

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Builder: Arsenal de La Carraca (San Fernando)
Laid down: 1888
Launched: 08/09/1988
Fate: Hull kept dry in the port of Cartagena.

History.
After being disarmed and dismantled, the hull was abandoned on a dock in the arsenal of La Carraca until 1930. Then was towed to the Base de Submarinos of Cartagena, to turn it into a monument at Arsenal. In 1965 it was donated to the City of Cartagena, situated opposite the monument to the Heroes of Cavite and Santiago de Cuba. Currently facing the cruisers terminal.

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Beunos Dias Amigo

Having viewed her many times at her old and new locations I marvel at the courage of the guys that went down in her. That was raw courage at the birth of underwater warfare.

I would rather be on S61 [Delfin] alongside in Torrevieja, and by todays standards she is ancient.

Nice post.

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Beunos Dias Amigo

Having viewed her many times at her old and new locations I marvel at the courage of the guys that went down in her. That was raw courage at the birth of underwater warfare.

I would rather be on S61 [Delfin] alongside in Torrevieja, and by todays standards she is ancient.

Nice post.

Adios

Dave H
Hello Dave, thanks.

There is a wonderful page about the history of the submarine in Cartagena.

http://www.cartagenaantigua.es/Submarino.html

http://www.cartagenaantigua.es/Monog...Submarino.html


Do not forget to move your mouse over the pictures. There's more.


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Holland Class (1915)

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In 1915, during the WWI, admiral Miranda, Navy minister, raised a fleet of 28 submarines, and in order to obtain as quickly as possible a unit for training it was decided to acquire one by way of urgency. With the major European powers at war or about to enter it, the efforts were directed towards the U.S.. In recognition of the figure of Isaac Peral, the submarine was baptized with him name.

Structure.
Displacement: 492/653 tons.
Length: 59.9 m
Beam: 5.5 m
Draft: 4.1 m

Armament.
1x76 mm gun
4x450 mm torpedo-launchers tubes

Propulsion.
Two Nelesco diesel motors 1140 hp / Two electric motors 680 hp, two shafts.

Speed
15 knots (surfaced) 10 knots (submerged)

Range
2400 miles (11 knots) (surfaced), 70 miles (4.5 knots) (submerged).

Was purchased a single ship of this class: Isaac Peral.



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Isaac Peral (A-0 from 26/08/1930) (1917-1932)

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Builder: Fore River Engine Corp. (Quincy, MA)
Laid down: 21/09/1915
Launched: 22/07/1916
Commissioned: 25/02/1917
Decommissioned: 18/05/1932
Fate: Scrapping.

History.
She participated in various campaigns in the North Morocoo (1922-1925), mainly supplying the isolated rocks of Alhucemas and Vélez de la Gomera. In 1930 her name was transferred to a more modern unit.

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Laurenti Class (F Class) (1915)

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Fulfilling the plan of Admiral Miranda, in 1915 were initiated contacts with the Italian authorities for the purchase of three submarines of Laurenti Class (F Class), resolved the purchase in April of that year. Spain ordered the last three built for the Italian Navy. The delivery took place despite Italy entered at the WWI. The lack of italian interest by submarines of small burden and poorly armed, coupled with the need for the Armada for training units have their crews, facilitated the agreement. The first two submarines were baptized with the names of two precursors of the spanish submarine navigation, Narciso Monturiol and Cosme García.

Structure.
Displacement: 261/310 tons.
Length: 45.6 m
Beam: 4.2 m
Draft: 3.1 m

Armament.
2x450 mm torpedo tubes, launchers (4 torpedoes)

Propulsion.
Two FIAT 750 hp diesel motors / Two Savigliano 500 hp electric motors, two shafts.

Speed
13 knots (surfaced) 8.5 knots (submerged)

Range
1600 miles (8.5 knots) (surfaced), 85 miles (4 knots) (submerged).

Operational depth
40 m

Was purchased three submarines of this class: Narciso Monturiol, Cosme Garcia and A-3.



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Narciso Monturiol (also A-1) (1917-1934)

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Builder: Fiat San Giorgio (La Spezia)
Laid down: 28/09/1915
Launched: 16/04/1917
Commissioned: 25/08/1917
Decommissioned: 01/01/1934
Fate: Scrapping.

History.
22/08/1919. H.M. the King Alfonso XIII (RIP) embarks on the submarine in the port of Santander after a naval parade, and performs a one-hour immersion in the course of which, after observing the evolution of the ships and watch the shore and close boats to the periscope, according to press notes, "...was offered by the submarine fleet commander, Lieutenant Commander Garcia de los Reyes, a glass of champagne, which His Majesty graciously thanked with a toast for Spain and the Submarine Fleet."


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Cosme Garcia (also A-2) (1917-1931)

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Builder: Fiat San Giorgio (La Spezia)
Laid down: 09/09/1915
Launched: 17/06/1917
Commissioned: 25/08/1917
Decommissioned: 17/12/1931
Fate: Scrapping.

History.
The 28/06/1927 suffered a serious accident off the port of Barcelona, opened the hatch of one of the torpedo tubes in the course of a test launch without torpedo. The stern was above water level with the bow resting on the bottom and was rescued without casualties.
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A-3 (1917-1932)

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Builder: Fiat San Giorgio (La Spezia)
Laid down: 23/03/1916
Launched: 10/06/1917
Commissioned: 25/08/1917
Decommissioned: 18/05/1932
Fate: Scrapping.

History.
She participated in various campaigns in the North Morocoo (1922-1925), mainly supplying the isolated rocks of Alhucemas and Vélez de la Gomera.

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Holland 105-F Class (1916)

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Fulfilling the plan of Admiral Miranda, contacts were initiated in 1915 with the Electric Boat Corp. for the transfer of licenses for the construction of six 105-F class submarines in Spain. The agreements were facilitated by the mediation of the company Vickers Ltd., agent of the american corporation in Europe and shareholder of the Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval. The work started in February 1917, but the rapid entry of the U.S. in the First World War involved in the end of supply of materials. Until several years after the war the submarines were not launched, entering service between 1921 and 1926, already outdated compared to units in others navies. However, for the Aramada submarine force represented the firsts fully operational units.

Structure.
Displacement: 570/715 tons.
Length: 64.2 m
Beam: 5.6 m
Draft: 3.4 m

Armament.
4x450 mm torpedo-launchers tubes (8 torpedoes, later 10)
The first four units originally mounted a rotatable double torpedo-launcher in the casing, which was soon dismantled
1x76 mm/45 cal (B-5 and B-6) gun. In the 30´s it was mounted in the rest of the subs of the serie.

Propulsion.
Two Nelesco diesel motors 1400 hp / Two electric motors 420 hp, two shafts.

Speed
16 knots (surfaced) 10.5 knots (submerged)

Range
8000 miles (10.5 knots) (surfaced), 125 thousand (4.5 knots) (submerged).

Operational depth
60 m

Was built six submarines of this class: B-1, B-2, B-3, B-4, B-5 and B-6


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B-1 (1922-1941)

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Builder: Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval (Cartagena)
Laid down: 01/02/1917
Launched: 02/06/1921
Commissioned: 11/04/1922
Decommissioned: 21/10/1941
Fate: Target in firing exercises.

History.
She participated in campaign in the North Morocoo (1922), supplying the isolated rocks of Alhucemas and Vélez de la Gomera. In July 1936 was part of the submarine squadron of Mahon, (Menorca). Her commander was removed from office by mutinous crews against the officers on July 21th. Later this year became the basis of Cartagena. After repairs in Barcelona turned coastal patrol duties on the Mediterranean coast. Ceased operations in November 1937. After the war was used as a target in firings exercises. Sunk in 1949.
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B-2 (1922-1951)

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Builder: Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval (Cartagena)
Laid down: 24/08/1917
Launched: 10/10/1921
Commissioned: 01/06/1922
Decommissioned: 05/04/1951
Fate: Sunk in heavy weather.

History.
She participated in campaign in the North Morocoo (1922), supplying the isolated rock of Velez de la Gomera. In July 1936 was part of the submarine squadron of Mahon, (Menorca). On July 15, had gone to sea with the B-3 and B-4. On 18th anchors in Pollensa (Mallorca), where an revolt officer of the army got the complicity of officers of the flotilla. The B-2 was asked to return to Mahon to pick a leader of the uprising, General Bosh. On the night of 19 was at its base, where the general was not presented. Back at sea, 21 includes a boat with eleven lines fleeing Mallorca, in rebel hands. The crew mutinies arrest then its officiers. Returning to Mahon found the naval base mutinied against their commanders.
As of September remain in the Balearic Islands to support the Republican attempt to land in Majorca in August 1936. Later this year became the basis of Cartagena. During the war turned coastal patrol duties on the Mediterranean coast. She end to operate in September 1937. After the war he became a training unit. On 16.08.1943, at an exercise about 15 miles from the mouth of the port of Ferrol, was attacked by a Liberator of RAF, which caused minor damage.
When being towed for scrapping was sunk by a storm in the Bay of Biscay on 28/11/1951.
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B-3 (1922-1940)

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Builder: Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval (Cartagena)
Laid down: 21/01/1920
Launched: 17/03/1922
Commissioned: 24/08/1922
Decommissioned: 08/06/1940
Fate: Scapping.

History.
In July 1936 was part of the submarine squadron of Mahon, (Menorca). On July 15, had gone to sea with the B-2 and B-4. On 18 anchors in Pollensa (Mallorca), where an revolt officer of the army got the complicity of officers of the flotilla. The B-3 was commissioned to go to Palma. From there, the officiers decided to return to Mahon. But during the early hours of 21th the crew mutinies arrest its officiers.
As of September remain in the Balearic Islands to support the Republican attempt to land in Majorca in August 1936. Later this year became the basis of Cartagena. The following months turned coastal patrol duties based in Malaga. Approached by a merchant, returned to Cartagena, where in January 1937 was removed from operations. At the end of the war was to be scrapped.
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B-4 (1922-1940)

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Builder: Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval (Cartagena)
Laid down: 09/05/1920
Launched: 31/10/1922
Commissioned: 28/05/1923
Decommissioned: 15/03/1937
Fate: Scrapping.

History.
In July 1936 was part of the submarine squadron of Mahon, (Menorca). On July 15, had gone to sea with the B-2 and B-4. On 18 anchors in Pollensa (Mallorca), where an revolt officer of the army got the complicity of officers of the flotilla. The B-3 was commissioned to go to Palma. From there, the officiers decided to return to Mahon. But during the early hours of 21th the crew mutinies arrest its officiers.
As of September remain in the Balearic Islands to support the Republican attempt to land in Majorca in August 1936. Later this year became the basis of Cartagena. The following months turned coastal patrol duties based in Malaga. Damaged by an air attack in the port returned to Cartagena, where was decommissioned in March 1937. At the end of the war was scrapped.
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B-5 (1922-1936)

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Builder: Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval (Cartagena)
Laid down: 13/01/1921
Launched: 04/04/1925
Commissioned: 31/12/1925
Decommissioned: 12/10/1936
Fate: Sunk in combat.

History.
In July 1936 was part of the submarine squadron of Cartagena. On July 17, was in dry dock repairs. She sail on July 24th to patrol the Strait of Gibraltar based in Malaga. In one of his patrols, on 12/10/1936 disappeared with all her crew. After the end of the war it was learned that day was attacked by a nationalist seaplane that gave him a depth charge and 50 kg bombs while she submerged.
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B-6 (1922-1936)

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Builder: Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval (Cartagena)
Laid down: 30/09/1921
Launched: 05/06/1925
Commissioned: 21/01/1926
Decommissioned: 19/09/1936
Fate: Sunk in combat.

History.
In March 1927 set a world record dive, with 72 hours uninterrupted.
In July 1936 was part of the submarine squadron of Cartagena. On 18th July morning sail with the rest of the fleet towards the Gibraltar Strait. On 21 July, received news of what happened in other units of the Armada, the crew mutinied and arrested its officers. Operated until August in the Strait. In September she sailed for the Bay of Biscay with ammunition. The 19th was sighted off Cape Peñas by the Nationalist destroyer Velasco, who was accompanied by three armed whalers. B-6 did immediate immersion, but embarked water and was forced to emerge again, Which made her an easy target for Velasco, located at 1500 m. She received several hits and sank quickly, but had time to be evacuated (1 dead).

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Holland S-48 Class (1916)

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Fulfilling the plan of Admiral Miranda, in 1922 was ordered the construction of a series of six submarines, for which was chosen the U.S. Navy S-48 class. With its entry into service became the core of the submarine force of the Navy, but suffers from significant limitations such as a limited capacity of their batteries, very outdated periscopes and hydrophones and lack of fire director of torpedoes.

Structure.
Displacement: 925/1144 tons.
Length: 73.3 m
Beam: 6.3 m
Draft: 5.7 m

Armament.
6x533 mm torpedo-launchers tubes (4 bow, 2 stern) (10 torpedoes)
1x76 mm/45 cal gun. C-3 and C-4 1x75 mm

Propulsion.
Two Vickers diesel motors 2000 hp / Two electric motors 750 hp, two shafts.

Speed
16 knots (surfaced) 8.4 knots (submerged)

Range
6800 miles (10 knots) (surfaced), 150 miles (4.5 knots) (submerged).

Operational depth
80 m

Was built six submarines of this class: Isaac Peral, C-2, C-3, C-4, C-5 and C-6


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Isaac Peral (also C-1) (1928-1950)

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Builder: Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval (Cartagena)
Laid down: 19/07/1923
Launched: 31/03/1927
Commissioned: 18/07/1928
Decommissioned: 30/01/1950
Fate: Target in fire exercises.

History.
On 08/08/1928 received a visit from HHMM the King D. Alfonso XIII (RIP) and the Queen Victoria Eugenia (RIP), who came to browse in it, submerged to get to the bottom, 29 m, where the sovereigns toasted with a glass of sherry. A few days after embarked the infant D. Juan, father of HM the King Juan Carlos, then in the Escuela Naval, and after continued studies as a midshipman in the Royal Navy.
In July 1936 was part of the submarine squadron of Cartagena. On 18th July morning sail with the rest of the fleet towards the Gibraltar Strait. She served as a patrol in the Strait until 22/08/1936, when was hit in an air raid and sent to Cartagena. In March 1938 moved its base to Barcelona, where took command soviet kapitain-leitenant I.S. Graiev. She attacks 26/04/1938 the nationalist cruiser Almirante Cervera without results. The 08.10.1938 was hit by a bomb in the port of Barcelona, which led to its sinking. She was refloated. 26/01/1939 passed to the nationalists when they entered in Barcelona.
After being repaired in 1941 returned to service. Since 1950 was used as target in maneuvers. She was sank in 1952.
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C-2 (1928-1951)

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Builder: Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval (Cartagena)
Laid down: 15/09/1923
Launched: 04/05/1928
Commissioned: 19/07/1928
Decommissioned: 06/06/1951
Fate: Scrapping.

History.
In July 1936 she was part of the squadron of submarines in Cartagena. Her commander, lieutenant commander Garcia de la Mata, supported the military rebellion, and he hold back the submarine the morning of 18th. The next day he and his officers were arrested by the crew. On July 23th she left the port for the Strait where she joined the rest of the squad. In September she moved to the Bay of Biscay, going to be based in Bilbao. She shoot down with his gun a Ju-88 in a bombing on 04/01/1937. After withdraw in the summer to Gijón, on 01/09/1937 her commander, ensign Ferrando, internement the sub in Brest. According to Ferrando, a command of the nationalist intelligence services tried to take control of the submarine on 28/09/1937, but failed. Ferrando was arrested by French authorities. Repairing in Saint Nazaire was sabotaged by a nationalist command on 10/03/1938. She went to sea on 17.06.1938 under the command of soviet leitenant kapitain N.P. Eguipko, reaching Cartagena 26th. She served as patrol in the Mediterranean under the command of soviet kapitain-leitenant V.A. Egorev. On 06/03/1939, put down the uprising of the Base of Cartagena, it was used by a group of rebels to flee and surrender the sub to the nationalists in Palma de Mallorca.
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C-3 (1929-1936)

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Builder: Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval (Cartagena)
Laid down: 05/05/1924
Launched: 20/02/1929
Commissioned: 04/05/1929
Decommissioned: 12/12/1936
Fate: Sunk in combat.

History.
In July 1936 was part of the submarine squadron of Cartagena. On 18th July morning sail with the rest of the fleet towards the Gibraltar Strait. On 20th crew mutinied and arrested the commander and officers. In late August she moved to the Bay of Biscay, going to be based in Bilbao. She returned to Strait in October. With one of her diesel engines damaged, the new commander of the republican submarine fleet, soviet captain N. G. Kuznetsov (future Fleet Admiral of the Soviet Union), ordered sail to sea from Cartagena. Patrolling with the engine dismounted off the port of Malaga an explosion caused her loss on 12/12/1936, with only three survivors. At that time was unknown what caused the blast, accepting it was a internal accident. The real cause was discovered by historian W. C. Franck Jr. in 1984, from german documents declassified. At the end of the operation Ursula, in which two german U-boat patrolled the coast of southern Spain without success, one of them, the U-34, spotted the C-3 and shoot her four torpedoes, of which hit one. Although not explode, caused a leak and, presumably, a buildup of chlorine exploded, causing the sinking. On his return to Kiel the crew was bound to secrecy and the naval authorities nationalists were not informed.
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C-4 (1929-1946)

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Builder: Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval (Cartagena)
Laid down: 09/02/1924
Launched: 06/07/1929
Commissioned: 21/09/1929
Decommissioned: 27/06/1946
Fate: Sunk by accidental collision.

History.
In July 1936 was part of the submarine squadron of Cartagena. On 18th July morning sail with the rest of the fleet towards the Gibraltar Strait. Her crew mutinied on 21th and arrested the commander and officers. In late August she moved to the Bay of Biscay, going to be based in Bilbao. She returned to Strait in October. She served patrolling from Malaga and later from Valencia. In April 1937 she returned to the Bay of Biscay. After withdraw in the summer to Gijón, on 28/08/1937 after being hit by an bomb, her commander, lieutenant Lasheras, sail to the sea to Le Verdon (Gironde), where submarine was in internment. Took her command the soviet leitenant kapitain I. A. Burmistrov and 14/04/1938 leaves Bordeaux, crosses the Straits submerged (first spanish submarine that did) and joined his base in Cartagena. Between June and August 1938, operates from Barcelona. Since late 1938 his role is reduced to a patrol-boat.
After the war she remained in active service. On 27/06/1946, during maneuvers off Soller (Majorca) makes an error of assessment and emerges just over destroyer Lepanto, which board and cause it to sink immediately. There were no survivors.
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C-5 (1930-1936)

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Builder: Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval (Cartagena)
Laid down: 30/09/1924
Launched: 20/10/1929
Commissioned: 16/04/1930
Decommissioned: 30/12/1936
Fate: Sunk in combat.

History.
In July 1936 was part of the submarine squadron of Cartagena. Her crew mutinied on 20th and arrested the commander and officers. She remained there until 22th August for repairs, and sailed for the Bay of Biscay. She arrived in Bilbao on 29th. She operated unsuccessfully on the north coast, because of the sabotage of her commander, the lieutenant commander Lara. On 30/12/1936 she left Bilbao, without being re-heard from her. None nationalist unit reported any action those days. After the war, was argued that the submarine was sunk by her own commander, unable to desert and surrender the submarine to the Nationalist Navy.
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C-6 (1930-1937)

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Builder: Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval (Cartagena)
Laid down: 29/01/1925
Launched: 26/12/1929
Commissioned: 27/09/1930
Decommissioned: 19/09/1937
Fate: Scuttled.

History.
In July 1936 was part of the submarine squadron of Cartagena. On 18th July morning sail with the rest of the fleet towards the Gibraltar Strait. On July 21, a platoon of sailors of the destroyer Alsedo boarded the submarine and arrested the commander and his officers. After operating in the Strait in August moved to the Bay of Biscay. She crossed in her rout with nationalist cruiser Amirante Cervera, without their commander ordered the attack. He was arrested by the crew. In October she returned to Cartagena. Unsuccessfully operated in the Straits until January 1937. On 01/02/1937 the soviet leitenant kapitain I. A. Burmistrov took command of the submarine. She operated in the Mediterranean until April, when moved back to the Bay of Biscay. After several unsuccessful outings, took over the soviet leitenant kapitain N. P. Eguipko, who don´t restored the fortunes of the submarine. After withdraw in the summer to Gijon, on 18/09/1937 was hit by a bomb that made it impossible any movement. With the approach of the Nationalist troops, the day after it was towed two miles out to sea and scuttled.
In 1947 salvage work began. After several months, the submarine was transferred to the port. However, while being towed into Ferrol way of scrapping definitely sank 17/08/1948.

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Hi Asdrubal.Fine set of submarine historys,withgood accounts of service etc.Keep them coming Regards Steve.
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Archimede Class (1936)

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At the beginning of the Civil War all the Armada submarines were under government control. The nationalists authorities quickly sought an agreement with Germany and Italy for that these two countries submarines operate in the Spanish coast and were transferred units for nationalist navy. The agreement was reached with the Italian Navy in April 1937 and involved the secret sale of two submarines of the modern class Archimede. Taking advantage of the Republican loss of the submarines C-3 and C-5, the submarines are seized of such names in an attempt to disguise the Italian intervention in the war and the purchase.

Structure.
Displacement: 880/985 tons.
Length: 70.5 m
Beam: 6.8 m
Draft: 4.1 m

Armament.
8x533 mm torpedo tubes launchers (4 bow, 4 stern) (16 torpedoes)
2x120 mm / 47 cal guns. After the war the stern gun was removed.
2x13,2 mm aa.

Propulsion.
Two Tosi diesel motors, 3000 hp / Two Marelli electric motors, 1350 hp. Two shafts.

Speed
17 knots (surfaced) 8.8 knots (submerged)

Range
10300 miles (8 knots) (surfaced), 105 miles (3 knots) (submerged).

Operational depth
100 m

Were purchased two submarines of this class: General Sanjurjo and General Mola.


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General Sanjurjo (ex-C3, ex-Archimede) (1937-1959)

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Builder: Cantieri Franco Tosi (Taranto)
Laid down: 01/10/1931
Launched: 10/12/1933
Commissioned in the Italian Navy: 01/08/1934
Commissioned in the Armada: 20/04/1937
Decommissioned: 28/09/1959
Fate: Scrapping.

History.
In the Italian Navy: Two missions of war in the spanish mediterranean coast during the Civil War (November 1936 and January 1937). During the first was found, few miles off the port of Cartagena on 22/11/1936, with a republican naval group. Fired two torpedoes on the cruise Miguel de Cervantes, wich hit the target one. The cruise was saved thanks to the proximity of the port.
In the Armada: During the Civil War operated from Palma, mainly against the merchant traffic in the east coast. She sank three merchant ships with a tonnage of 6.381 tons. Her latest success, the british merchant Endymion, of 814 tons, resulted in a serious diplomatic conflict that forced the withdrawal of Italian submarines operating in spanish waters on behalf of the Nationalists.
During the 2nd World War, when she participated in the rescue of the crew of a downed German plane, she was attacked 55 miles off Cartagena by the British submarine Torbay on 07/02/1943, shelled and addressed her causing serious injury.
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General Mola (ex C-5, ex-Torricelli) (1937-1959)

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Builder: Cantieri Franco Tosi (Taranto)
Laid down: 15/10/1931
Launched: 19/03/1934
Commissioned in the Italian Navy: 16/10/1934
Commissioned in the Armada: 20/04/1937
Decommissioned: 28/09/1959
Fate: Sunk in storm.

History.
In the Italian Navy: One mission of war in the spanish mediterranean coast during the Civil War (January 1937).
In the Armada: During the Civil War operated from Palma, mainly against the merchant traffic in the east coast. She sank four merchant ships with a tonnage of 10.033 tons.
In December 1959, when she was towed to serve as training pontoon, sank in a storm near Vigo.

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Hi Asdrubal.Thank you once again for that information.I knew there was German/Italian help for the Nationalists on the ground and in the air.But I did not realize that it went as far as submarine patrols.Were the Germans involved in this as well,or was it just the Italians.
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Hi Asdrubal.Thank you once again for that information.I knew there was German/Italian help for the Nationalists on the ground and in the air.But I did not realize that it went as far as submarine patrols.Were the Germans involved in this as well,or was it just the Italians.
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Wow, the axis submarines intervention in Spanish Civil War was very important.

The italians operated in three ways.

1. Sale of submarines (2, Sanjurjo and Mola). I wrote about them already in the previous post.

2. Release submarines with Italian crew (4 from September 1937 to February 1938). Based in Palma, they operated under Spanish command, failed to no success.

3. Submarines that operated in secret under Italian command from Italian ports. (59 submarines, with a total of 95 missions between November 1936 and September 1937). They had a very poor record, who did not improve to the only two submarines sold to Spain. Sank six merchant (22,005 tons) and broke down a cruiser and a destroyer.

It is famous the first battle of World War II, between the Italian submarine Iride and HMS Havock, August 30-31, 1937.

German intervention was more modest. They operated in total secrecy (it was not known until several decades later, the Spanish side was only known by Admiral Moreno). They operated 14 U-boats between November 1936 and December 1938. Their only success was the sinking of the submarine C-3.

The collaboration between the three navies (German, Italian and nationalist) went so far that Germany gave Enigma machines to encrypt communications between them.
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Hi Asdrubal.Thank you for that detailed reply to my question.I had no idea that the Germans/Italians operated to that large extent.Thank you once again.
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Type VII-C Class (1941)

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With the end of the Civil War and the imminence of war in Europe it was aproved, in the summer of 1939, a plan to build 50 submarines. Immediately was initiated contacts with Germany for submarines construction in Spain, with german assistance and materials, with the agreement to deliver half of the units to Germany. But soon it was shown that Spanish industrial backwardness, coupled with the destruction of war, made it impossible to plan. In 1941 an agreement was reached by which Spain would build six submarines, Type VII-C (spanish class G), and buy the necessary materials in Germany. This agreement not completed by the lack of Spanish resources and needs German military after 1942.
By then Spain had purchased already a submarine, the U-573 (spanish G-7), hit by a Hudson plane near Cabo de Palos on 01/05/1942 and interned in Cartagena.
After Germany's defeat in World War II the Armada went ahead with plans to build submarines, reducing the number to four units, coming up to lay down the G-1, but Spanish shipyard technical failure prevented the construction. In the late 50s came to the comic situation of seeking technical assistance from the U.S. Navy to build german submarines of the World War II. The project was finally canceled in 1961.

Structure.
Displacement: 761/865 tons.
Length: 67.2 m
Beam: 6.2 m
Draft: 4.78 m

Armament.
1x88 mm / 45 cal gun
1x20 mm aa. gun
Five 533 mm torpedo-launchers tubes (14 torpedoes)

Propulsion.
Two diesel motors Germaniawerft 2800 hp / Two electric motors Brown Boveri 700 hp, two shafts.

Speed
16,5 knots (surfaced) 7,5 knots (submerged)

Range
9000 miles (10 knots) (surfaced), 90 miles (4 knots) (submerged).

Operational depth
100 m.


Was purchased a single ship class: G-7 (after S-01).



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G-7 (S-01 from 15/06/1951) (ex U-573) (1947-1971)

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Builder: Blohm und Voss (Hamburg)
Laid down: 08/06/1940
Launched: 17/04/1941
Commissioned in Kriegsmarine: 05/06/1941
Commissioned in Armada: 05/11/1947
Decommissioned: 02/05/1971
Fate: Scrapping.

History.
In Kriegsmarine: She operated in the Atlantic in October 1941 without success. In December she passed the Strait of Gibraltar, sinking a merchant ship 5289 tons off Cabo de Gata. Based in the port of Pola, developed three patrols in the Mediterranean, without success. In her third patrol was attacked 01/05/1942 by an airplane Hudson of 233 Squadron RAF, which caused extensive damage and forced him to flee to Cartagena.
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