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Old 17-06-2009, 15:12
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VIVID is still the RNR division at Devonport!

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Old 17-06-2009, 15:19
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jumper so tight you needed assistance to get out of it. Burberry worn with white silk scarf, U shaped front of jumper instead of V shape, long tails from the silk bow & wider bell bottoms than pussers suits. Jack me tickler ashore turned back sleeve cuffs ( I used to envy American matelots they had the inside of their cuffs embroided) cap flat aback. On leave all the girls wanted to touch a sailors collar for luck. The crafty ploy of getting a girl to put her arms around you to hold down your collar when donning the Burb. The chant before shore leave " do us a sub, lend us a quid, give us a loan of your Burberry. All that compensated for lousy pay & food, great times!
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Old 17-06-2009, 15:25
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No one has mentioned night clothing yet, and by that I don't mean pyjamas!
Number 2's or Number 3's without blue jean collar and without lanyard.


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Old 17-06-2009, 15:59
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Of course. I remember the night clothing and trying to find a place to hide during evening rounds if you couldn't be bothered to change. I used to go up to the Opps room and play with the RADAR table when at sea

Can't remember what No. is was assigned!
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Old 17-06-2009, 17:01
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Night clothing was the rig when mustering on the flight deck for evening quarters. Most stokers used to prefer loafing about in a clean pair of overalls so went and hid when evening quarters was piped. There was a 'bit of a do' one day when only Knocker turned up by himself to represent the other 80 odd who should have been there. You can write your own scenario of the outcome.

Re trade badges, I think qprdave is right. A star above and below the propellor could be an Acting POS(M) who has not yet obtained his Boiler Room Certificate. Incidentally, on that Mechanician's course were three Micky Mice (MMs or Motor Mechanics). These were diesel and petrol engine specialists from the motor trade who had been recruited to maintain the engines of MGBs and MTBs. They were highly skilled fitters but had to learn about steam plant following the reduction of the numbers involved in coastal forces after the war.

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Old 17-06-2009, 17:06
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VIVID is still the RNR division at Devonport!

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Sorry, meant to edit the "for a while" out, but it obviously didn't work.
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Old 17-06-2009, 17:09
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Of course. I remember the night clothing and trying to find a place to hide during evening rounds if you couldn't be bothered to change. I used to go up to the Opps room and play with the RADAR table when at sea

Can't remember what No. is was assigned!
Night Clothing; noz 4.
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Old 17-06-2009, 18:26
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Well Gentlemen...........That got the grey cells twitching a tad...........

Thank you all so much for your contributions .....for which I am very grateful and welcome to the new kids on the block.....Special thanks to Trotonelower for the detail of the clothing and remarks included

Thank your Jan ....... but I was aware what a shirt lifter was ....you didn't need to be in the Navy to know that little gem

Did any of you enjoy the use of ...for instance "Thai silk suits"

I purchased a couple whilst in Thailand a couple of years ago and I think they are both the best fitting ,most comfortable and well made suits I have ever owned.
The detail ,and attention to the lined trousers and stitching amazed me and the whole thing was measured fitted and made in two days..at a price 50 quid lower than I would pay for a suit off the rail in the UK.
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Old 17-06-2009, 18:52
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Sorry to be a bit late with this one but....
I once served with a PO ex submariner who joined the ship in his No.4 suit, the rest of his kit was in a pussers holdall!
Why No.4 suit - it was for working, for going ashore, for divisions, for PO of the Patrol (His last act as a PO but thats another story)...in fact 4 everything!

He didn't last long

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Almost as silly as seeing the present day female sailors in sailor suits!!

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I`m with you there Jan, the old WRNS uniform was more suitable, but there again, they should`nt be on warships and classed as sailors.
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Old 17-06-2009, 20:13
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Anybody remembers UNIFIT the navy tailors in Queen St, Portsmouth (no longer there).

Just another reminder of wearing the uniform was when wearing a Burberry(raincoat) and having to ask the young girls to put their arms thro` to pull your collar straight-crafty way of getting a hug in those days----I noticed when I was down in Portsmouth 3 years ago the absence of the naval uniform on the street, is there a reason for this?

What was the branch coloured strips in between the gold braid in the 50s, I remember the Purple for Engineers, White for Supply,Orange for the Doctors, and Green for Electrical, Exec branch had no coloured strip? and of course the Ministers of the church although they wore Officers uniform had no rank at all, was there any others that I`ve missed out.

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Old 17-06-2009, 20:35
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"having to ask the young girls to put their arms thro` to pull your collar straight"

Been there, Done it (Haven't we all)

I know they stopp us wearing uniform ashore in the 1970s as the I.R.A. threatened to kill any servicemen saw in uniform. Certainly lost out getting rides when thumbing it home for W/end

The colour strips which denoted non-exec. Officers, as you have said. It had stopped by the time that I joined in 1966. I seem to remember way back in the mists of time that Docs. retained theirs!
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Old 17-06-2009, 20:40
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The only "Naval Jailor's" along Queen Street now, is Baun's. Although there is a former "Sew Sew" operating under the name of "Tailor Lee" a little further along. But not really the same thing.

For branch colours, Naval Officers, try this...

http://www.gwpda.org/naval/perrncol.htm

Not mentioned is the Corps of Naval Constructors, which if memory serves, was light grey.
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Old 17-06-2009, 23:58
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Very interesting thread.

My dad (RAN WW2) used to put the "wave" in his cap by bending it somehow on his knee. Couldn't be seen with a flat cap. He reckoned you could tell the "Poms" by their "Flat caps". He also used the trick of tying the tally around a coin and used to sow small lead sinkers in the cuffs of his No.1's to make them swirl better when he walked. What a lair!

Unfortunately the flat cap seems to be the norm in the current RAN. Looks terrible.

Have a photo of him in khaki shorts and khaki shirt with a square collar. Was this used only by the RAN?.

Also, where does the term "tiddly suit" originate?

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Old 18-06-2009, 08:16
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No one has mentioned night clothing yet, and by that I don't mean pyjamas!
Number 2's or Number 3's without blue jean collar and without lanyard.


Bob.
I can also remember wearing winter rig where the blue (and extremely itchy) jumper was worn instead of a white front.
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Got my last noz one suite from "Tingaling's" in Tamar. Uniform 1965.

Don`t suppose you have the up todate version of branch badges,mate---navy seem to give fancy names to the branches these days and as for the badge,just take the old Stokers propellor now used by the seamans branch and others ---very confusing to us old matelots!!!!

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Old 18-06-2009, 09:17
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My old man (ex MN & RN) WHO SERVED DURING THE 1914-18 war as an A/B gunner made me a bow in my cap tally when I was in training at RALEIGH in 1953, he used a small button for the centre and a "tiddly" bow set over my left eye. Captains divisions day the Captain was inspecting the guard which I was one, he stopped in front of me, eyed me up from the boots to the hat, took a closer look at my tally and said :"The bow in your hat is not of this vintage" when I explained who had done it,he said to tell him that we do things differant in todays navy----old man was`nt too pleased with that when I told him. As I`ve read in other forums it seems as if the bow comes ready made now and is stitched to the tally---must be a load of thicko`s that can`t make a proper bow, stand by for aggro from serving members!!!!!!





Thanks Trotone lower(funny title???) for the branch colours, I can remember them when I served in the early 50s and the medical staff still us it to this day an orange strip in between the braid----- I always thought that it was unfair that the poor old Padre was`nt given a rank in the Navy yet they are recognised in the Army, what are your thoughts on this.


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Old 18-06-2009, 15:11
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Interesting thought about the Padre, Dave. I think they have a nominal rank but it is only that as not being 'ranked' as such allows them to go anywhere they please on a ship instead of being bound by tradition etc etc.

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Old 18-06-2009, 15:14
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I was led to believe that the Padre was always the same rank as the person that he was talking to.
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Old 18-06-2009, 15:17
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That makes sense, but it is to logical to be correct, as everyone knows when has the navy, any navy, been logical!!!

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The Padre on the Hermes was a great guy. Very well spoken. He used to enjoy coming down the messdeck for a few beers. Always brought a crate down.

He was reprimanded once for being down the Stokers mess socialising!!!! when he should have been in the Wardroom for one of their functions.

He used to come down the SCR and sit at one of the sets and just ping around for an hour totally enjoying himself. I know that he used to do it with all the other departments.
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Try this link for Branch Badges etc. Also gives a breakdown on "modern" uniform.
A "Sparker" is now basically an internet operator....CIS. I also noted that CTs now have a branch badge. Not so when I were an (sub)mariner.
No more Buntings, from what I could gather, hoisting and lowering flags is now the Buffer's job.

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/training...branch-badges/
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Old 18-06-2009, 18:18
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Anybody remembers UNIFIT the navy tailors in Queen St, Portsmouth (no longer there).

Just another reminder of wearing the uniform was when wearing a Burberry(raincoat) and having to ask the young girls to put their arms thro` to pull your collar straight-crafty way of getting a hug in those days----I noticed when I was down in Portsmouth 3 years ago the absence of the naval uniform on the street, is there a reason for this?

What was the branch coloured strips in between the gold braid in the 50s, I remember the Purple for Engineers, White for Supply,Orange for the Doctors, and Green for Electrical, Exec branch had no coloured strip? and of course the Ministers of the church although they wore Officers uniform had no rank at all, was there any others that I`ve missed out.

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I think red for Doctors, Orange for Dentists, salmon pink for Wardmasters, silver grey for Constructers. The thin gold stripe for Warrent Officers went in about 1950.
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Old 18-06-2009, 18:49
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Try this link for Branch Badges etc. Also gives a breakdown on "modern" uniform.
A "Sparker" is now basically an internet operator....CIS. I also noted that CTs now have a branch badge. Not so when I were an (sub)mariner.
No more Buntings, from what I could gather, hoisting and lowering flags is now the Buffer's job.

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/training...branch-badges/
Now then TrotOneLower,
1st'ly re CT's... I wish we (S) branch geezers (way back then) ... had been given the level of pay now recognised as appropriate for CT's.
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2nd'ly you nearly ruined the myth mate:- I was always taught that there are no ex Submariners!!! once a Submariner always a Submariner. Please note you guys always qualify for a capital S in my book. Little h
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Still got my Dolphins. Received on the first issue by the then Capt SM1. These were of the "brooch" type, and the original issue has WJD B'ham, in relief, on the back. Unfortunately, no longer get my SSP(SM). Didn't go to slops and get my "Sausage on a Stick", so like everyone else, made do with the cap tally until the Dolphins were approved.
Also joined as an RO(S), but we then had to remove our Wings, and accept "Tiffs" pay as poor compensation.
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