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Old 19-04-2012, 17:54
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Royal Norwegian Navy

1) 1930's-1940's Submarine



2) Minelayer 19181940



3) Coastal defence ship 19011940



4) Submarine chaser 1945



5) K/S NORGE 1990's

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Old 19-04-2012, 17:56
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Old 19-04-2012, 17:57
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Old 19-04-2012, 18:00
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Royal Navy

1) pre-1939



2) 1940's



3) 1950's



4) 1980's

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Old 19-04-2012, 18:01
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Old 19-04-2012, 18:54
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I cannot remember the exact wording on the cap tallies, but I do recall that those of the Dutch Navy at Portland led to the sailors being referred to as Klonkijonks. I just hope it was not rude.
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Old 21-04-2012, 05:47
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The inscription on Dutch tallies reads: Koninklijke Marine (Royal Navy)
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Old 25-04-2012, 18:01
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Any cap tally collectors out there???? If so, do drop me a line, either through PM or direct:

rbsorb@lycos.com
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Old 03-09-2012, 16:54
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Interesting thread this.

Just found a few cap tallies in the attic.

Ganges, Diana, Tiger and Sultan; wire thread. All genuine and worn by yours truly.

Eagle is cotton thread, but genuine, as it also was my own.

Ulster, cotton thread. Given to me by an oppo. It is genuine too.
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Old 25-11-2012, 11:13
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Hi.. My young brother passed away recently and left a small collection of military items. Amongst these are 100 or so cap tally bans, mainly german, some RN and RAN. I don't know the difference between a copy and the real thing... Can anyone advise me on how to differentiate?

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Old 25-11-2012, 16:04
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Hello Dave
Can you get some pictures up on the forum? I suspect that the RN and RAN ones will be real - but its the German ones that are harder to confirm as genuine.... mainly due to the fact that unlike the UK and Australian Governments who used just a few companies to produce the tallies our friends in Europe used whoever was the best provider of the elusive deal....

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Old 25-11-2012, 22:58
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Hi Danny,

Yes, I wil get some close up pics on today showing both front and back of typical examples. Appreciate your response and advice.

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Old 29-11-2012, 23:44
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I'm looking for a HM SUBMARINE or HMS TALLY HO cap ribbon.
Any suppliers out there?
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Old 30-11-2012, 10:05
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I'm looking for a HM SUBMARINE or HMS TALLY HO cap ribbon.
Any suppliers out there?
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You will not find a Tally Ho cap ribbon, as she came under HM Submarines,

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Have seen much discussion on the Submarine Cap Tally. Did they or did they not have their particular Submarine on the Tally.

From 1914-1930's seems they did, many just had HM Submarines, or Depot ship, but many examples do exist of the submarine on the Tally, here are some examples from my personal photo collection.

C20 1914
H1 1915
E27 1918/19
R10 1920's.
K26 1920's x 2
L4 1920's
L14 1920's
L52 1920's
L53 1920's
L54 1920's
Oxley 1930's
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File Type: jpg L4 Crew.jpg (3.3 KB, 163 views)
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:44
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Balticsubs - great new Thread - should have been done before.
I was going to do it - but - lazy ??
Here are a couple more Submarine Tallys.
1st is L69 - 2nd H49

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Old 03-01-2013, 11:11
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I certainly do not agree my post has been moved as it was, i was trying to keep the Royal Navy Submariners and their Cap Tallies a unique thread, now it has lost it's meaning.
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Old 03-01-2013, 19:48
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I merged your thread with the existing thread on the subject of cap ribbons and tallies. It seems to be a duplication of topic having a seperate thread on the subject and I am sure that other contributors to the thread will be every bit as interested in your posts about submarine cap tallies.

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Old 05-01-2013, 11:44
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Pointless to you maybe, but none the less many submariners may feel offended as needless to say they are and were a different breed deserving of their own seperate thread which seriously lacks on this forum, it becomes hard to find now. Enough said, there was a reason i knowingly started a seperate thread for submariners, but now point is lost.

And no point posting the other cap photos i have.
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Old 13-02-2013, 16:06
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These are a few of the cap tallies I acquired from my father and some I collected during my time in the R.C.N. The first four belonged to my father, he acquired the German tally in 1936. The first Kootenay tally was from the war time commissioned ship and the second was from the DDE, which was my first sea posting in 1968. The HMCS Cornwallis tally's bow is the colour scheme of the new entry division from 1965. Each division had a uniquely coloured bow identifying to which barracks the new entry belonged.

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Old 13-02-2013, 20:43
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. Each division had a uniquely coloured bow identifying to which barracks the new entry belonged.

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How the heck do you tie that?
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Old 14-02-2013, 13:10
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Steve they were done with needle and tread. The red section was trimmed and stitched in the back of the white bow. The tallies worn after leaving new entry training were tied not sewn. I remember the "encouraging" words from the Divisional P.O. as he taught us how things were to be done.

I remember sitting on my bunk in "Joining Block" sewing the bows and learning how to embroider my name and official number on all of my kit. Still have a few items after nearly 48 years. We all looked forward to the day we got rid on the black cap and wore our "real sailor's white cap". All it took was surviving the 16 weeks of basic training.

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Old 14-02-2013, 14:02
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Steve they were done with needle and tread. The red section was trimmed and stitched in the back of the white bow. The tallies worn after leaving new entry training were tied not sewn. I remember the "encouraging" words from the Divisional P.O. as he taught us how things were to be done.

I remember sitting on my bunk in "Joining Block" sewing the bows and learning how to embroider my name and official number on all of my kit. Still have a few items after nearly 48 years. We all looked forward to the day we got rid on the black cap and wore our "real sailor's white cap". All it took was surviving the 16 weeks of basic training.

Dave
That all sounds positively sadistic, however I believe some similar trials were visited on the junior entrants to the RN in various establishments. I joined HMS Raleigh in 1962 at19, printed my name tallies and kit with a wooden "type" and only ever tied cap tallies. What did I miss?
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You didn't miss much Steve. It probably sounded much more sadistic than it actually was..I think!!! Looking back I do envy the Divisional P.O.s - taking civilians and turning them in to sailors ready for the fleet. A real task considering most were between 17 and 23 years of age. Most had not been away from home and were certainly not used to the "routine" required by the standards of the day.

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Old 14-02-2013, 15:09
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When I joined GANGES as "Baby Seaman" in 1957, we had to stamp every item of kit with the wooden name type mentioned by Steve - then were required to sew said names into each item with red cotton.
I always envied, for example, M. Day, and felt very sorry for G.R. Shufflebotham (who is probably still trying to complete it all to this day).

After training stamping name with type only sufficed.
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