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Old 29-09-2008, 09:35
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There is one thing i greatly regret ,when i was away on our cruise,s .of which i had three long ones ,if naming the ports we stopped at and dates.
At the time ,you thought nowt of it ,down came the daily orders to the mess deck ,any change of program [could be a perk]you took for granted,
Now i look back and think ,by heck that was a good run ashore ,..but when was it ,i was on ............in 19some thing date.

I came a cross this piccy of the ROTHSAY ,and it made me start to think
Looking over my photo album ,i have put no dates.

Has any one else got a poster like that ,even ships made um up for the crew ,but i must have been on ,not too well off ones at the time

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Hello Cylla,

Your post brought back a lot of memories of Rothesay, not of the ship but the port on the Isle of Bute. In the early 50's it was a favourite port of call for destroyers of the Home Fleet and I must have visited several times on HMS Barrosa.I liked Rothesay it was a pleasant port. I have special memories of a girl named Sheila who was from Glasgow, as all Glaswegians it seemed, headed for Rothesay for their holidays. This girl faithfully sent me tins of McDonald & Lang, I think it was, biscuits for a long time afterwards with rolls of Blighty's and other magazines of the time. I used to get stacks of stuff when sea mail arrived on board! Happy days.

Your quite right recording of the dates one visited these places didn't seem important at the time.

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Old 29-09-2008, 22:45
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Cylla - Good post.

I doubt if you can remember but I wondered why it took you so long to get to Gib on the way out [12 days] rather than the four days on the way home.

I expect you were undergoing exercises or something?
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The recording of Cruises was very popular prior to WW11, when we had a proper Navy!!!

The larger ships with their own photographic dept. produced postcards for the ships company to send home, usually in an envelope as these items are rarely seen postally used.

Smaller ships especially the destroyers in the Med had them commercially produced by a Maltese business.

Have posted an example from the Queen Elizabeth and one from Brazen. These are two of a couple of hundred or so I have collected. If there is enough interest I will post some more.

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Great postcards Gerry. I for one would love to see more and I'm sure I'm not alone. You guys who hold all this priceless memorabilia, and are willing to share it with everyone, are due all the thanks you deserve.

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Old 30-09-2008, 12:03
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Thanks for those encouraging words Chalky. I think its good to share memorabilia and knowledge, never did see the point of collecting stuff and squirrelling it away never to see the light of day !

Heres a couple more , one more from the Q.Elizabeth produced commercially and one from the Suffolk that doesnt have the dates but includes mileage steamed. This seemed to be a popular way of impressing the folks back home.

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Old 30-09-2008, 13:21
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Gerry - excellent cards my friend. Please put them all on this thread!

Speaking as someone who collects warship postcards and who has put literally thousands of them in the forum - I would really like to see yours and I am sure that many others like Chalky - would love to see them as well!

Oddly enough these fascinating RN "world cruise" postcards are one area that I have not got any cards of as far as I can remember.

Thank you in advance!
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Old 30-09-2008, 13:37
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And here is a genuine newspaper clip from January 13th 1939 Portsmouth Evening News I have in my possession for the Home Fleet's Spring Cruise assembling and leaving from Portland Naval Base.

Probably a bit small print wise to read on the forum page but you may see the headline "Ark Royal going to Alexandria"
Below that it lists 30 odd ships and where they are going to with dates etc.
Handy information for the Germans really when you think about it as War was not that far away.

Edit: No, that detail has come out very well and you can read the small print detail even with myopic eyesight.
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These world cruise postcards can often be very helpful in dating or identifying other photos. I seem to remember having used one of these and a cruise book to cross reference two ships to the same port at the same time, meaning I could positively identify the ships in the photo. I don't think I could have done that without one of these cruise cards. They are also useful, especially for one kind of regular visitor to this particular forum, in that they confirm where a ship was at a given time - thus giving the location of perhaps a great uncle or grandfather if they were on that ship - ideal for genealogical purposes. We do have a few on the site already (yes they are small images) which have often been part of a larger collection of photos of the same ship, which makes identifying where the ships was in a photo much, much easier!

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I have just logged on ,and i was surprised to find how many of you were in to this type of thread.
Gerry you are a breath of fresh air mate ,i would love to see your collection too.
Gerry you mention MALTA ,that would be before we sold it off ,i expect .
I was there twice ,but both time,s it was when St Angelo had been decommissioned,and we were all at bouys .

The pic is when i was on the scylla,and that was a very short trip around the med,you could count the places we visted on one hand.

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Old 30-09-2008, 15:52
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Very good points Kc - I had never looked at it in that way before, but I see exactly what you mean.

Cylla - I dont think you will find that we sold Malta!!
They eventually were given their independence despite their wishes to be actually incorporated into the UK!

There were from memory talks about this in the 1950`s but they sadly broke down without agreement...
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Old 30-09-2008, 17:20
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More of the requested Cruise cards and thanks for your kind comments.

The first two from Liverpool Summer Cruises while Flagship in the Med 1951 and I am sure someone will remember that one !!!

Even as late as the 50s we still used the term Summer Cruise, a hangover from the 1930s when it was customary to split the year in to a Winter/Spring Cruise and a First and Second Summer Cruise. In the Med these usually started and ended from Malta. Liverpools cards have been published/printed onboard but dates were not included.

The other card is for the 4th DF 7th Division Boreas Winter/Spring Cruise 1934. A wealth of detail with the route, dates, photo of the ship leaving Malta and in the top right-hand corner the ships crest.

The commercially printed cards were published before the cruise ( no secrets as to where they were going!) for the crews to send home.

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I really did expect an ex-Liverpool hand to comment on the last cards. so lets see if these will hit the spot.

1 Summer cruise of CYCLOPS and 1st Submarine Flotilla 1924. They didnt go too far but probably far enough for that class of boat !

2 Island Cruise HMS LEITH June 1935. Take a look at the places visited and nothing today compares with it.

3 LEITH again in 1936 visiting a whole new set of islands. I believe the ships role was to transport the designated Governor around our possesions while based in Auckland. What a commission and independent command as well !! HEAVEN !!!

4 Back to reality with HMS DIANA with the 1st DF Med Fleet on a Persian Gulf Cruise in 1933. I like the politically INcorrect way the natives are depicted !!

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Many thanks for those Gerry. Really appreciated seeing them.

One thing that strikes me is that these type of cards are all put together in a well executed but amateurish fashion. One assumes that each one was drawn, designed and executed by one of the ships officers?
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Hi Terry

I agree to the amateurish production of some of the cards. I think it depended on wether the ship had a talented artist onboard i.e the ones from HMS Leith are well-drawn, possibly had a surveyor onboard for her deployment.

As they were produced for the ships company I expect they were popular.The larger ships had photographic departments onboard and prints were sometimes on a par with the commercially produced ones.

Not sure if they were compiled by the ships officers or ratings, some are signed and probably a crew list could be checked but I havent gone into that detail!!

I will keep posting them as the content and detail of ports visited will be of interest to many of our members.

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Thanks for all the info Gerry. What you say makes sense.

Please dont think my observations over the amateur designs of the cards indicate a lack of interest on my part - quite the opposite in fact - it

makes them all the more interesting!!

Please I would love to see them all when you have the time to scan and show them - no matter how basic!

I really do appreciate seeing them and I am sure many others do as well.

Thank you once more.
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Thanks for your comments. Here are some more from Cruisers in the Med in the 1930s. I will endeavour to keep them coming, main drawback is that I have to drag them out of various collections and then I find something interesting and get side-tracked. Senior moments from then on !!!

1 & 2 HMS LONDON Summer Cruises in 1933, quite amateurish compared with card 3.

3 2nd Summer Cruise HMS LONDON with the !st Cruiser Squadron Med Fleet in 1935. Commercially published

4 HMS SHROPSHIRE 2nd Summer Cruise in 1933. Super card produced onboard.

5 & 6 HMS SUSSEX 1st Summer Cruise split over two cards with the dates and places on one and the route on another. Produced onboard mainly using Chalk and a Blackboard !!!

The bigger ships seemed to follow vitually the same routes each year.

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Excellent Gerry! Many thanks...
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While doing some research on carriers in the 50,s and 60,s i stumbled upon these two cards of the ,cruise of the EAGLE and the CENTAUR.

There must be some one out there ,from the ships crew at the time who took part ,1,000 to 1 chance who remembers.

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Cylla

Two cracking cards. Heres three from carriers to go with them

1 HMS OCEAN Plymouth to Japan 1950

2 HMS WARRIOR 1957 The Grapple Squadron heading for the First British Megaton Bombs Trials around Christmas Island

3 HMAS SYDNEY (ex- Terrible ) Portsmouth to Sydney with the 21st C.A.G .The date is unknown bur I am sure someone out there can tell me when it was.

Keep the cruises coming !

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Great stuff Cylla and Gerry. Much appreciated.
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Here we go with todays offering

1 HMS CYCLOPS Spring Cruise 1925 with the Ist SM Flotilla out to the Med.

2 CYCLOPS again 12 years later Autumn Cruise in 1937. Actually names the boats in the flotilla.

3 First SM Flotilla Spring Cruise 1933 ( Cyclops would have been along as well)

4 HMS ADVENTURE China Station 1936-1937 Devonport to Wei-Hai-Wei

5 Adventure again with a more detailed list of the 1936-37 cruise detailing the leg from Penang to Wei-Hai-Wei

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More details of the cruises of HM Ships

1 Very detailed card of HMS VERONICA on cruise of South Island New Zealand. No date but I think it was around 1926/7 when she was on station.

2 Spring Cruise 1935 to the W.Indies of HMS RODNEY. Card has seen better days but an interesting route.

3 This is a Xmas card from HMS ALERT 1954-1955. If you have to be away where better than a cruise like this one. Not many ports missed out !!

4 A poor effort from HMS MARLBOROUGH for a 1930 Cruise. I would have expected something more professional from a ship this size. Still the cruise doesnt look that good either !!

5 A similar poor one from HMS IRON DUKE, a few tatty postcards around a photo of the ship, no dates other than the year 1921.

I think the small ships came off best of these ones in cards and run-ashore !!

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Thanks a lot for these again. Much appreciated.
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More cruises from the 1930s Destroyers in the Med.

1 First year in Commission of HMS GRENADE with 1st DF in Med. Includes the troubles in Spain and Palestine which kept this Flotilla busy.

2.3.4 All from HMS DIANA and although they look the same I think they show how far our influenmce stretched in the Med. The cruises between Spring and
late Summer 1933 show how many ports were visited on almost an annual basis.

5.6 Cruises of HMS BRILLIANT the following year, 1934, follow the same pattern as DIANA, pity about the quality of the ship-made cards !

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