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Old 28-10-2017, 13:47
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For those of us who do not read the Daily Mail, here's another slant on it all:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...x-Cocaine.html
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Old 29-10-2017, 10:24
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For those of us who do not read the Daily Mail, here's another slant on it all:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...x-Cocaine.html
Well no doubt about it, that Vigilant was a party boat it appears!

And although the drug taking seemingly happened whilst ashore, the thought of cocaine fueled sailors around a nuclear reactor, let only nuclear weapons, certainly gives one pause for serious thought.

But had I realised it was so much fun, maybe I'da thought of signing up. Argh, but way to old for that now (the signing up that is, not necessarily the partying ).

But no, a serious state of affairs it is!
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Old 29-10-2017, 11:27
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As a matter of interest, having lead a sheltered life, and this is a serious question. What would be the different risk letting a bunch of drunk sailors and a similar bunch of Cocaine users on board, after a party. Eg personally I used to drive a 16ton Nubian Crash Tender after miss musters ( never caught her ) for Rum, at Lossiemouth. Pre breathalyser
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Old 29-10-2017, 12:10
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As a matter of interest, having lead a sheltered life, and this is a serious question. What would be the different risk letting a bunch of drunk sailors and a similar bunch of Cocaine users on board, after a party. Eg personally I used to drive a 16ton Nubian Crash Tender after miss musters ( never caught her ) for Rum, at Lossiemouth. Pre breathalyser
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Although not a US citizen I am still going to plead the Fifth Amendment on that one.

With all due respect Jim, a serious answer.

EDIT; OK, OK, my lawyer said if I kept it general it would be OK to elaborate, a little. So lets look at it like this. We all know swabbies and especially higher higher are notoriously efficient people at requisitioning large items (purloining some might say) and getting said item on board, and are also no doubt expert at getting other smaller items on board ship / boat (as subs be). However with regards the two substances in question, one may have trouble, or shall we say way more trouble taking on board say a case of whisky (without help), or even a bottle or three oneself, and no doubt the give-away-smell (after drinking some of same) may give the game away at some stage, even if one managed to perform said feat of getting said 'largish' quantity of said liquid refreshment onboard. And if too much is drunk (for many folks) the likely outcome is passing out at some stage. On the other hand however, just one person could take aboard a rather large quantity of 'the other substance' (just in his pocket's for instance) that even with daily use and then some, could easily last the whole cruise (and be even more than enough to share with his mates should he be so foolish), but be basically unrecognizable on / in him (save for a drugs test); and depending on how much the individual took, leaving them anywhere on the spectrum from being as if he (or she, as we can't forget the ladies now can we) had had several cups of very strong coffee and looking / acting relatively 'normal' (say just a little - or more - 'agitated' maybe), to not sleeping for days or more (yes it would be rather boring laying in that nine bunked 'cabin' awake during all your sleep time, but...............if you got the 'jones' you got 'the jones') and being / becoming a downright paranoid schizophrenic with either a God complex or, at the other end or spectrum, suicidal or, worse, take your pick. So in this comparison case it really is a small (but very effective) quantity of one substance over a large quantity of the other shall we say, and with two very different states of intoxication). Anyway, all the above is just what I've overheard at the pub. Maye I was just drunk.
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Sounds more like Operation Petticoat on smack to me.

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Old 01-11-2017, 18:37
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Sorry mate you lost me half way through.
I was expecting something like a drunk driver, or not being able to put your key in the lock! As for the coccain I have never knowingly been involved with any one 'on it' so I don't know how they behave.
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Although not a US citizen I am still going to plead the Fifth Amendment on that one.

With all due respect Jim, a serious answer.

EDIT; OK, OK, my lawyer said if I kept it general it would be OK to elaborate, a little. So lets look at it like this. We all know swabbies and especially higher higher are notoriously efficient people at requisitioning large items (purloining some might say) and getting said item on board, and are also no doubt expert at getting other smaller items on board ship / boat (as subs be). However with regards the two substances in question, one may have trouble, or shall we say way more trouble taking on board say a case of whisky (without help), or even a bottle or three oneself, and no doubt the give-away-smell (after drinking some of same) may give the game away at some stage, even if one managed to perform said feat of getting said 'largish' quantity of said liquid refreshment onboard. And if too much is drunk (for many folks) the likely outcome is passing out at some stage. On the other hand however, just one person could take aboard a rather large quantity of 'the other substance' (just in his pocket's for instance) that even with daily use and then some, could easily last the whole cruise (and be even more than enough to share with his mates should he be so foolish), but be basically unrecognizable on / in him (save for a drugs test); and depending on how much the individual took, leaving them anywhere on the spectrum from being as if he (or she, as we can't forget the ladies now can we) had had several cups of very strong coffee and looking / acting relatively 'normal' (say just a little - or more - 'agitated' maybe), to not sleeping for days or more (yes it would be rather boring laying in that nine bunked 'cabin' awake during all your sleep time, but...............if you got the 'jones' you got 'the jones') and being / becoming a downright paranoid schizophrenic with either a God complex or, at the other end or spectrum, suicidal or, worse, take your pick. So in this comparison case it really is a small (but very effective) quantity of one substance over a large quantity of the other shall we say, and with two very different states of intoxication). Anyway, all the above is just what I've overheard at the pub. Maye I was just drunk.
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Old 01-11-2017, 23:03
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Sorry mate you lost me half way through.
I was expecting something like a drunk driver, or not being able to put your key in the lock! As for the coccain I have never knowingly been involved with any one 'on it' so I don't know how they behave.
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Jim, you just need to reread what I wrote carefully, or just take what Mitch said and look up the definition of 'smack'. Not far off base, but for those on smack, like the 'average' alcoholic (which I realise navy guys aren't 'average', no offence meant) will just 'nod off' (i.e. pass out) before things get too out of hand. As for the 'other substance' well anything along the lines of what I said goes, believe me! Although, like I said, I only overheard it in a pub.
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Old 02-11-2017, 10:13
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Oh Dear. New MOD motto. "DON'T DO AS I DO. JUST DO AS I SAY"
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I thought the article by Anne Robinson on the subject was quite good, if the predators advances are unwelcome, give them a slap or knee them in the groin.
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Old 02-11-2017, 17:03
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Thought occurred (as they do), I don't suppose the old excuse "Sorry, ship rolled" is accepted these days?
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Old 07-11-2017, 16:06
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I spent several of my early teen years delivering papers longing to meet a sex starved predatory housewife who would drag me in and have her evil way with me, no such luck.

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Old 07-11-2017, 16:25
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Yes no doubt there were some serious incidents, but the way the media is acting( as usual ) Britain is a land of Perverts Groppers and Dirty old men, however it might deter some people from coming here, but I doubt it. Especially when you see what's been going on in the Midlands, a bit more serious than offensive comments from thirty years ago.
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The fact that these are allegations seems to have been totally ignored by all and sundry. Nothing has been proved. Kevin Spacey has been wiped from his latest file. Are the next to go Rock Hudson, Dirk Bogarde and any other public figures that don't conform to their norm. I have yet to see any organisation handing back any of the miilions Jimmy Saville gave to charity.
A friend of SWMBO had a leg amputated in St James Leeds when he was playing at being a ward orderly and came in contact with him or a daily basis and wouldn't have a word said against him.
If any allegations are eventually proven then any of the alleged perpetrators then hit the with the full weight of the law. What has happened to innocent until proved guilty.

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Totally agree, Mitch. The Thought Police are in control.
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Totally agree, Mitch. The Thought Police are in control.
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