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Old 06-05-2008, 18:34
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Default RN Shore Training Establishment: HMS Vernon

Hi everyone,
For those mebers who served there, this is how it looks now. I have take some photos of the remaining original buildings but apart from the Admin block, do not know what they used to be. The site was sold off a number of years ago for development and is now known as Gunwharf Quays, a combination of housing, shops, restaurants, bars and night clubs. The site is dominated by the Spinnaker Tower which has viewing platforms which give a magnificent view accross the whole area including the Solent.
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Old 06-05-2008, 18:47
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Here are the pix I posted the other day that have since gone missing...
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Old 06-05-2008, 18:54
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Thanks Rik,
I asked at the time if they were taken in the 70's as the RCT Maritime badge was on the main gate. You confirmed it was taken, I think, on the Silver Jubilee.
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Old 06-05-2008, 19:12
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Here are the ones that I posted and disappeared.

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Old 06-05-2008, 19:40
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Thanks Bob,
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Hopefully not too much was lost. Great to see everything up and running again.
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Some more from the Good Old Days.....
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Old 06-05-2008, 20:09
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And again.....
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Old 18-05-2008, 11:05
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A well known piece of Vernon's history.

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It is sad indeed to see how much of our Naval heritage has been eroded away...
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Right Bob you have got me here, what was your picture of the shed on stilts, can`t say that I saw that construction and what was its use?





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I`ve always said ,Why when military bases and camps are closed down why don`t they place a plaque telling what the base/camp was when in service, I do a lot of war walks with my son once or twice a year both in the UK and in Europe and we`ve come across USAAF and RN stations that took part in operations during WW2 but no info about them, a plaque would be nice, we have an ex FAA station near here now being used as a Transmitting station world wide, this was in its navy day called HMS NUTHATCH which consisted of an airfield and the living quartes for WRNS (camp 1) and males (camp 2)yet no signs saying what the stations service was during peace time and wartime, same with the RAF airfields around here, people who come here keep asking what aircraft etc flew from here ,some info on these would help a lot, VERNON when I was serving had a board with the history of the base outside for the public to read why not now since its change to a business estate.
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Old 09-06-2008, 18:52
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It was a mining trials tank Dave.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:05
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Hi Bob,thanks for putting my mind at rest about the tower,was there any accidents from the testing, when you are young you don`t take the saME INTEREST IN THESE ESTABLISHMENTS and what they do or was that just me. great photos of VERNON on this forum.
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:03
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As regards the 'local history' perspective, of what places were before what they are now. It really is down to enthusiasts, local history/heritage groups, Civic Trust and the local councils. Best if it is a Parish council who can usually be relied upon to put a bit of money aside where District and County councils are always 'strapped for cash'.
If you put up a decent proposal for a 'heritage information board' (whatever you want to call it), with some current information of places of interest, rural footpaths, nature viewing spots, you can probably find someone with a bit of spare cash to pay for it. You can however expect to pay up to 1,000 just for a simple wood/painted type of information board. There are companies who specialise in putting these up. Both my local Parish councils have done so and they are an asset to the village. Beware that you may need planning permission if it situated adjacent to the highway or depending on it's size.
A roadside bench is also a typical accompanyment which you again could get paid for by the Parish/County Council/Ramblers Association/Mayor's Charity, or get some local business to sponsor it.
Be on the lookout in large scale developments of former military sites, that under the planning application, a condition could be attached where the developer incorporates a heritage/information site/village hall that explains it's significance in previous times.
Locally here, a development took place where the land, originally bought in WW1 to teach returning soldiers husbandry, had all the access roads named after those soldiers who DIDN'T return to take up the offer, and a marker left behind also.
There are unlimited things that can be done to mark an areas previous life, it just takes someone with an interest to drive it forward. The bigger the development, usually the easier it is as the developer is keen to show their good intentions.
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Old 12-06-2008, 19:13
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These are some photo's of two minesweepers berthed at what used to be HMS Dolphin. I took them from Gosport and they are not too good due to the forest of masts between myself and them. I also had problems viewing what I had taken due to the bright sunshine and only captured a small part of the ships. I will go onto Haslar Bridge at the weekend and try to get better shots,
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Old 12-06-2008, 19:40
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In the first world war, Vernon was, as is now, the torpedo and mine school. Our mines weren't known for their reliability. Breaking away from their anchors was a common complaint, and their fuses were unreliable. The story is told (a little aside here) of the little trawler popping up next to the cruiser and calling to the OOD, "Scuse me....", "OI! Scuse me....." One OOD appears and says, "What do you want...?" "I think this is yours," says trawler skipper, pointing to a very big mine on his aft deck, about 3 feet from the side of the cruiser, and then, as the OOD goes into panic mode, adds, "It's alright, I've knocked its horns off wiv me chopper!")

Anyway, aside aside, the story I wanted to relate was the E class submarine that has dived into a minefield. Wires are scraping down the sides, and then, from forward, an almighty clang, followed by another one amidships, and finally, a 'bonk' from the stern, whereopon a matelot turns to his mate and says, "Good old Vernon, another bloody dud!"

I imagine the atmosphere was changed somewhat in that submarine at that time.

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Old 12-06-2008, 20:21
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Great story Berg. I can imagine the relief inside the sub,
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Old 14-06-2008, 17:08
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The Haslar Bridge perspective proved no better but there were fewer masts in the way today and I managed to take some relatively uncluttered shots from a pier,
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These were the best shots. I will post the rest next

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Old 14-06-2008, 17:22
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The rest,
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Sorry, missed on the last one and found a Submarine

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Old 14-06-2008, 17:52
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And some more,
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I believe they are DULVERTON & COTTESMORE. BRECON was also laid up with them, but she is now the RALEIGH training ship at Jupiter Point.
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Old 15-06-2008, 07:08
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Thank you very muc for the ID Rick,
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Hi Bob.Shayler,I did my electrical & torpedo training at H.M.S.Vernon 1941,but it was Brighton at Roedean girls school we had cabins & a bell to ring for a mistress, when we rang it all we got was a irate C.P.O.we were housed at St. Dunstans (the blind institute ) Doug. birch Ex.-EA
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Hi Doug,
Found your story really funny, I can imagine the irate CPO charging in to find out who had rung the bell,
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Hi bob, Ithink I had a strange introduction to the navy,it started with a stint at Borstal Rochester for drill.We were sleeping in cells(doors open).borstal boys in the next block, then Roedean, then the blind institute,I
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