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Old 12-08-2009, 10:20
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Hi all, I sometimes wonder what the younger generation will have to look back on in their older years. Call me an old anchor faced git but I have many wonderful mems from training at Ganges 57-58 to the ships and establishments I had the previledge to have served on.
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:52
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Hey up ye achor faced old git... there now you feels better for that DD

I fear that the current batch of serving youngsters will have a tad too many conflicts to recall!

Just glad I was in when I was

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Old 12-08-2009, 14:08
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Harry............we're all "Anchor Faced Old Gits" ! I was at GANGES same time as DD (1957).

Btw..............always felt "seen off" on "leave morning"........get up when? 0330 was it? Then had to sit in the gym I think it was, until called for bus/lorry......we "locals" were usually last to be called. No jazzy express for us, old "Claude-Hamilton" and about 3 decrepit coaches that had long seen better days, but 30-40 minutes of gently puffing to each country station, and I was home. (Bury St. Edmunds)
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Old 12-08-2009, 14:41
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I am sure that, if they supplied you with a tandem to get home on leave, you would have taken it!!!!!!
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Old 12-08-2009, 17:53
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11Class benbow 30mess July 10th 1951 /August52 Instructors Chief G.I Bil Boddy and P.O. TASI Windy Blizzard.
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Old 13-08-2009, 16:33
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If you can't beat 'em...........join 'em..........Annexe 7th January 1957......lord knows name of mess, first one on right.
Over "Main"............Blake 7 Mess, Long Covered Way.
Instructors, CPO "Pusser" Brotherton and PO "Percy" Peram.
I think we were 124 class ..........Seamen anyhow. Opposite side of mess were Air Mechs and Stokers.

Remember getting kit............"Boots, football"............."But I don't play football, I play.........", "BOOTS FOOTBALL". Don't think they ever got used. Played Hockey for Ganges 2nd XI and Blake Division though.
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Old 13-08-2009, 16:53
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Hi Scurs,

I think I put on a post before but I remember Brotherton in 53/54, Blake Division. His big oppo was a short little CPO Mellows. His opposite number with the class at that time was a "two foot across the eyebrows" POGI but I can't remember his name. Back to Brotherton - I think he was the smartest CPO [your truly included in later years] I ever came across - don't matter what time of the day or night he looked as if he had just stepped out of Gieves window.

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Old 13-08-2009, 20:14
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Dave...............he must have had either a long time there or two separate drafts as Instructor! By your description has to be the same bloke.
POGI who sticks in the memory, has to be "Chicken" Childs, but on reflection can't recall if he was POGI or Chi.GI.....either way big oppo of our Percy Peram and stood all of 5ft 5".........Percy was 6ft plus..............."Little & Large".
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Old 13-08-2009, 21:21
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I could do with one or other of them; POGI or Chief GI to dwell upon the problem of the Gizmo identity on the 'Spent Rounds' thread

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Old 14-08-2009, 11:00
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Nice one Francis. Your father didn't try to warn you off then?
Having read both of the late John Douglas's books I must have been one of the lucky ones as he seemed to be writing about another place.
Fair enough it was strict with plenty of bulls..t but our two classes never came across the so called sadistic instructors or bullying leading boys.
Mind you this was in 1952/3 four years after him.

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Old 14-08-2009, 12:49
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Hi Scurs,

When I posted it before someone reckoned Brotherton did a fair time there. Reckon he must have been a bit of a stanchion.

I have remembered the big b..g..s name - it was Hancock - used to scare the s..t out of me and he wasn't even our Instructor.

Mind you I reckon we all did some scaring when we got clobbered for New Entry Training Establishments - came with the task of putting right all mum's coddling

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Old 14-08-2009, 14:20
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I was never there as an Instructor, or even Ship's Company, only time I went back was post-RN. My old school chum was having his son christened (he was PO Bunting, Instructor))....chap named Ivan Howard... be about 1971'ish.
Lost contact after that but I believe he made CYS.

Pusser Brotherton must have had close friends at Haslemere..........1953-1958 (at least) a long spell even for the most barnacle of "stanchions".
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Old 14-08-2009, 15:07
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First photo 11class due to leave annexe August 51.
2nd One ready to leave Ganges August52 some additions onthe way.
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Old 14-08-2009, 15:45
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Just for curiosity Peter where was the second photograph taken?
I've been trying to picture somewhere in the establishment to fit in with the photograph but it has got me beat.

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Old 14-08-2009, 16:06
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On the sports feild at the back of Nelson Hall.
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Old 14-08-2009, 20:43
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Now that Ganges has closed down, is there another site proposed for the training of young seamen. And has anyone,any idea what the planning proposal for the old site is.

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Old 14-08-2009, 21:08
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No. Apparently we can no longer enlist people at 15. European something or other. Lets face it, we don't like them, and they certainly don't like us.
No again. Changes with the wind. One day it is going to be this, another that.
But we are promised that the mast is safe.......and you can believe that if you like.
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Old 14-08-2009, 21:18
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Ganges closed because the British Government raised the school leaving age to 16.

Perhaps it also was because of the Defence Cuts announced circa 1966 and later cuts which didn't require so many recruits because the ships wouldn't be there to be manned
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Old 14-08-2009, 21:44
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The Wilson Governments did keep banging on about the morality, or lack thereof, in enlisting boys of fifteen, and was used as a convenient excuse.
Lets face it, we have never had a Labour government that has been in favour of the armed forces as a whole. Whatever convenient, trendy reason they can pull up to degrade and denigrate our Services, they will use, and spin it until we are all dizzy.
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Old 15-08-2009, 00:02
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Like you I don't hold out any hope for the mast. And the developers won't let a little thing like a listing get in the way. I live in Blackheath near Greenwich,
and a few year ago developers had planning permission. To convert a grade 2 listed building into twelve flats. By chance the building fell down on a Sunday when no one was around. There is now a 54 apartment block on the site.Progess, I don't think so, I think we lived through the best of it.

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Old 15-08-2009, 08:19
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Yep, I can see that happening. Had an argument with the committee on the subject. The developers will keep us away as much as they can and allow the mast to rot; to the extent that it becomes a danger. Next thing, listing or not, it will be condemned.
Chatham Dockyard were interested, but that too fell on deaf ears.
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Old 15-08-2009, 11:20
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Yep, I can see that happening. Had an argument with the committee on the subject. The developers will keep us away as much as they can and allow the mast to rot; to the extent that it becomes a danger. Next thing, listing or not, it will be condemned.
Chatham Dockyard were interested, but that too fell on deaf ears.
Chatham historic dockyard sounds the right place. What annoys me is that the developer now own the mast. And relocation depends on their willingness to sell. What are the MOD using for brains.

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Old 15-08-2009, 12:42
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It's not down to MoD, as things stand with them, we could all spend a month in a brewery, and still not get a wet.
It's the Ganges association, and the mast fund. Suggested a while ago they talk to Chatham, but no, they have their own agenda. Even after I paid a sneaky visit to the site and mentioned the mast's condition, I was simply issued a bo**ocking for entering, told I was exaggerating and that the mast would not simply be left to rot. Well, guess what?
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Old 15-08-2009, 13:21
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Yep, I can see that happening. Had an argument with the committee on the subject. The developers will keep us away as much as they can and allow the mast to rot; to the extent that it becomes a danger. Next thing, listing or not, it will be condemned.
Chatham Dockyard were interested, but that too fell on deaf ears.
I logged on to the HMS Ganges Association site I get the impression they have given up. They stated the mast cannot be removed from site because of the grade two listing. And they have entered into an agreement with the developers for the upkeep of the mast. We are watching an iconic piece of history being allowed slide down the slippery slope of progress

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