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Old 05-11-2007, 21:19
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Default RN Shore Training Establishment: HMS St Vincent

Just wondering if anybody knows what happened to the contents of St Vincents museum? I was in the last intake at St Vincent before she closed at the end of 1968, and I was always impressed by the models in the museum which I cleaned regularly.

Also if Paul Geenwood is still about (Lynx 1969-1970), hi mate - Noel Hope is my name if you can remember that far back.....
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Old 06-11-2007, 14:27
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Hello Noel
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www.hmsstvincentassoc.org
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Old 14-02-2008, 10:40
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Thumbs up HMS St Vincent: Shore Training Establisment

Just a few as a sprog 1961,
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Old 14-02-2008, 10:45
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Two upside down again will remember this one day ARG,
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Old 14-02-2008, 10:49
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I'm glad you shared these. Even the ones I had to stand on my head for!! LOL

In at least one pic you are obviously just a pup.

I must add that the parade looks damned fine.
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Old 29-02-2008, 22:31
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The boys training establishment has its annual reunion this year on the 11th October In Pompey at the Old training school now a college in Gosport,the evening dinner and dance is at the Thorngate Halls, Bury Rd, Gosport.
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Old 13-04-2008, 16:42
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I'm glad I found a reference to at least one ship that one of my ancestors was connected with.

John Henry Saunders bn 1854 in Dover was a boy 2nd class at the time of the 1871 census. I can find no trace of him after this, can anyone tell me how long boys spent training in HMS St Vincent. His brother Thomas G Saunders was serving on HMS SeaLark. I have found numorous references to modern day HMS Sealark, but nothing about the Victorian version. If anyone can shed any light I'd be very interested to hear from them.

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Old 11-05-2008, 07:40
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Paula when I was there in 1960 it was for a period of 12months, reputed to be the hardest time of your life, but all in all it was golly good fun,
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:52
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And I bet you were a good boy Rom whilst you were there!
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:01
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Thats a bit of a daft question
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Old 11-05-2008, 13:01
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St Vincent had the best firework displays in the area aswell.
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Old 14-05-2008, 10:40
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The attached shows St Vincent Div, Xmas term, 1926.

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Old 14-05-2008, 11:59
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That'll be HMS St Vincent then.
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Old 14-05-2008, 12:42
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Sorry about the typo - HMS St Vincent.

That's the trouble with us non Naval types

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Old 14-05-2008, 12:51
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I'm intrigued, what ship is that?

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Old 14-05-2008, 13:06
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Simon HMS St Vincent was both a WW1 Battleship as well as the name of a training establishment for young sailors at Gosport...
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Old 14-05-2008, 13:14
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That I am aware of. However, H.M.S. St. Vincent was sold for scrap on 1 December 1921 to Stanlee of Dover and broken up there in 1922 (a man working on her breaking up named David Wilson from Birkenhead was crushed to death by a 10 ton piece of armour plate which fell on him on 18 July that year).

Hence my wondering which ship they are on.

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Old 14-05-2008, 13:34
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H.M.S. "St. Vincent", the Portsmouth counterpart to H.M.S. "Ganges", didn't actually open until 1927 (the announcement of its inception being made on 6 December, 1926. I can only conclude that "St. Vincent Division" was the name of a division at "Ganges" or some other boys training establishment.

That ships got a fairly large conning tower so it must have been a cruiser of some sort. Interesting...

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Old 14-05-2008, 13:54
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A couple of links, one about the battle (which gave Earl St Vincent his title and Nelson a victory largely overlooked), the other about the training establishment.

http://www.stvincent.ac.uk/Heritage/1797/index2.html

http://www.hmsstvincentassoc.org/svaframe.html

The cadets of "St Vincent Division" may have been aboard one of the training cruisers of the period, such as HMS Caroline.
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Old 14-05-2008, 15:32
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I have gone back to my original photo and compared the information with that held on my father's service record.

Not being ex-Navy and very much a novice in Naval matters I hadn't given it much thought - had assumed St Vincent Division was the same as HMS St Vincent.

I believe that the attached solves the mystery.

My father's records show that from March 1926 to July 1927 he was on HMS Impregnable. How could I think that a 'Guzz' seaman would be at a 'Pompey' base?

Teach me to be more careful in future

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Old 14-05-2008, 15:40
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Cheers for clearing that up, Mike. What a charming certificate!! They certainly knew how to present things back then. I have far too many certificates printed out on A4 paper from Microsoft Publisher 97, which makes me appreciate such things.

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Old 14-05-2008, 16:46
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I think the certificate may also have cleared up which vessel the photo was taken on. Note that next to the signature it says "HMS Colossus". From September 1921 until August 1928 she was a cadet training ship.

HMS Impregnable II (ex cruiser HMS Powerful built 1895) was also a training vessel at the time, but such photos as I have been able to access suggest that she had nothing like the conning tower shown in the group picture.
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Old 28-06-2008, 21:22
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Our class at St Vincent 1968, thats me right of PO Kerr seated on the class photo & left standing on the other!

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Old 28-06-2008, 21:30
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Have turned your picture around Sailor it was back to front.
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Here's a few to sing the praises of HMS St Vincent. I'm sure most of the thousands of Boys who passed through would, perhaps in some cases reluctantly, say that the place was the making of them. That certainly applies to me.There were also many hundreds of Fleet Air Arm Pilots and Observers in Classes passing through.
Over the years it also seems to me that HMS Ganges the sister Training Establishment has got all the better Press and that Association certainly seems larger than our St Vincent one.
The aerial photo shows the Establishment with Forton Creek at the top which led out to Portsmouth harbour. Although Seamanship and boat drills were carried out backing onto this creek actual Cutter and Whaler sailing and pulling took place a 10 minute March away to Clarence Yard.
The Main gate photo shows all that is left of the roadside facade which thank goodness was Listed and preserved. All the Blocks seen here, the Wardroom over to the right, and the Parade Ground have gone and a 1960's monstrosity College is now on the site.There were a number of huge Air raid Shelters dug into the Parade Ground which must have taken some filling. Perhaps they used the rubble from the demolished Blocks.
The figure head of Old Jervie has also gone.
The Benbow New Entry Class has me second in top right.
I'll post some more photos later.

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