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Old 05-10-2010, 20:37
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Hello all.
I am just starting work on a new model, it's another German battle cruiser.
The Mackensen class were never finished and only a handful of photos exist,
so making this model is going to be a challenge.
I hope this will be a interesting model, I will post pictures as the work progresses.

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Old 05-10-2010, 20:50
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Hi Scupper,

So that's how you start off ... I did wonder. So do you have to generate the section drawings? And how do you place them? How do you cater for perspective?
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Old 06-10-2010, 21:06
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Hi Clive,

I only use the section drawings if the hull lines drawings are not available or not good enough.
The section drawings have numbers which are lined up with corresponding numbers
on the side view plan. Doing it this way does make the work space very cluttered but
you do get the shape right. There is another plan showing the deck view which
is positioned under the model, but its not visible in this picture.
What you are seeing is a camera view from a position I have chosen . It is equivalent to
a 35mm SLR and also mimics the lens distortion that normally occurs.

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Old 06-10-2010, 21:12
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Thanks for explaining that Scupper, much appreciated.
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Old 24-10-2010, 02:03
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Hello all,

Graf Spee is slowly progressing. The hull is allot of work and its always great when this stage is finished.
I still need to do some more modeling before I can start on the decks and the superstructure. Then things
start to get more interesting.

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Old 29-10-2010, 22:56
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Hi, here are some better views of the hull so far.
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Old 20-11-2010, 11:29
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Hi,
some new views of the work so far.
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Old 21-11-2010, 14:19
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Thanks Scupper.

Please continue the outstanding work.
SMS Derfflinger was a roaring success and I believe the Mackensen class would have been even better
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Old 23-11-2010, 17:58
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Thanks GaryH !
I was beginning to think that I am the only one here interested in the Machensen class. They may not have been historic ships but it's interesting to follow the battle cruiser evolution. Faster, improved armor protection, larger displacement and larger main armament than the Derfflinger class, yes they would have been powerful ships.

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Old 23-11-2010, 21:36
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This one's going to be a beauty methinks. Fabulous Scupper ... as always.
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Old 02-01-2011, 01:32
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Thanks Clive.
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Scupper,

Excellent job on the model! I have a question regarding the hull plating in the area of the stern, is the wavy hull plating or deformation included in the model from actual photo's?

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Old 03-01-2011, 14:49
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Hello Charles,

Thanks, glad you like the model.

What I am trying to show is the vertical groves between the side armoured plates. These thick plates
were bolted to the hull after the ship was launched and the thin gap between the plates could be seen.
The "wavy hull plating or deformation" you mention is a software or lighting problem caused by my 3D
program, the plates were shaped to fit the round form of the hull and were flat. I have not seen any photos
of the hulls with the side armour on so I assume it was never fitted.

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Old 07-01-2011, 23:11
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Very nice work Scupper
Thanks and Happy New Year
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Old 07-01-2011, 23:23
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Scupper, I would like to commend your outstanding work!

Well done. Keep up your great talents!

We enjoy it so much. Wunderbar!
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Old 15-01-2011, 02:10
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GaryH and ekd... thanks allot, I am glad you are enjoying the model. I am having allot of fun making it.
A model was made of the Mackensen and was on show at the Museum für Meereskunde in Berlin. Unfortunately this was destroyed in the second world war.
I have been given a photo taken of this model to help me build mine. I don't think there is much else available so this model will be new to everybody.

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Old 13-03-2011, 18:32
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Excellent work. It is nice to be able to able to visualize what these powerful ships would have looked like. Siegfried Breyer's book, Battleships of the World 1905-1970 has a photo of the model you mentioned.
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Old 14-03-2011, 18:31
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Thanks Hmsorion, I don't have the book you mentioned but if it shows the model in a glass case then it must be the one.
This projects on hold at the moment but I hope to get back to it soon.
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Old 17-05-2011, 20:37
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Scupper ... you have gone quiet on us ...! What news ...?

I am continue to be staggered by the attention you pay to detail ... my full admiration.
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Old 19-05-2011, 02:38
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Hello Clive,
I am making a model of a Friedrichshafen FF-33 E at the moment, it was used by the German Imperial Navy during WW1.
I also have two other projects going so the Graf Spee will have to wait for the time being.
Best wishes scupper
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Old 22-07-2011, 19:11
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I have started rigging the foremast. This model is made from plans dated 3 May 1915.
If the ship had been completed I assume the foremast would have been modified.
Most likely it would have looked like the Hindenburg mast with enclosed positions under the
spotting top and the forward searchlights moved onto the tripod legs. On both Baden and
Bayern the foremast's had similar modifications.
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