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Old 20-06-2010, 07:37
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Hi,
This model of the Lützow still need a little work before its finished.

Best regards to all
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Old 20-06-2010, 09:41
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Tremendous. These are so real, it's like actually being on board. It feels as though you could strech out and touch everything.

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Old 20-06-2010, 19:11
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Yes, I agree with Dreadnought, the realism is uncanny. If ever some TV or movie company wanted some shots of WW2 ships you'd be the person to see. Probably a bit more wear and tear on the ships though would be helpful.

The quality is outstanding.
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Old 20-06-2010, 19:24
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Love it -- keep up the great work!
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Old 21-06-2010, 09:19
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Amazing work! Thanks for sharing it with us.
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Old 21-06-2010, 12:12
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Thanks allot!
I have not put the four forward 8,8's on the Lützow model. None of the photos show that they were ever fitted.

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Old 05-07-2010, 21:03
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What software are you using? Looks good. Does it render smoke? That is usually a hard one for most 3D software!

I've done all of my Industrial Design work in 3D software since 1994....I'd never go back to paper!! DFO
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Old 05-07-2010, 21:58
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Hi designeraccd,

I started a few years before you on a Amiga 2000 and 3D software called Imagine but its all done with Max now.
I would like to try a battle scene sometime with smoke, gun flashes, shell splashes etc. There is allot of painted battle artwork,
it might be interesting to try something similar with a PC. ........ Need the ships first!
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Old 05-07-2010, 22:45
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Good luck...the amount of 3D detail to create for a warship is astounding! Nice work; I modeled a creative design of a 40' cabin cruiser just for practice when I first started using the software I have now. That was complex enough!! DFO

BTW...do you have an estimate of the time it took you to "build" the SMS Lutzow?? One of the most complex "models" I ever built was a cockpit for a big diesel Class A motorhome; it had a 27" tv on an elevator. Packaging all that under the front end I also designed and getting the ergos right took @ 90% of my time for 3+ months! Of course all the 3D data was then used to CNC machine all the patterns for everything.

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Old 06-07-2010, 07:10
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Sounds like a big job, I don't think people realise how work intensive computer graphics are. The Lützow took about a year to make but I was doing another model the same time.
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:32
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A year! I believe it given the level of detail...how HUGE is the file??? Of course once it's done-assuming no hard drive crashes...and with external backup; it's there "forever"!! How long does it take your software to "crunch" out a rendering? Given the small (file size) size of the products I currently do my rendering software usually takes under a minute for a photo-realistic rendering, background and all.

Since I no longer scratch build my tiny warship models (JFS scale: 1"=128'), I've toyed with the idea of 3D modeling some, but after I'm done designing products for others...I'd rather ride one of my motorcycles!!

How many "models" do you have and "who" are they? DFO
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Old 06-07-2010, 19:23
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When I started working in 3D I made many British, German and some Japanese WW2 warships. My first ever 3D model was the Graff Spee. The models were much simpler, the Amiga had only 2MB of Ram. I only returned to ship modeling about three years ago and I have SMS Gneisenau and a half finished SMS Seydlitz. The Lützow is about 2 million polygons and rendering time can vary allot. Big areas of sea take ages, a large render in good quality with shadows could take 20-30 Min's. A test render 30 seconds.

If you are a motorcycle fan then how about modeling a BSA Gold Star or a Vincent Black Shadow.
Something like that would be allot of fun to make..... but perhaps you not into Classics.

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Old 20-07-2010, 10:29
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This is outstanding work with an amazing level of detail. I am looking into building some 3d models of WW2 warships that have been built here in Devonport UK where I live but I am struggling to find detailed drawings to use as references. I have seen the superb drawings over at the Dreadnought project just a shame that there are not many construction drawings for the old British warships.

Anyway thanks for the inspiration.
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Old 24-07-2010, 15:03
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Way back when I scratchbuilt in real 3D.........JFS old scale: 1"=128'

HARD on the eyes!! DFO

KIEV was the last one I built, in 1976. She is a wee bit battered from several moves.......
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Old 24-07-2010, 17:06
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Mr Designeraccd ... I should really move your post as it not a computer generated model. I will leave it this time, but please, only computer models in this section.

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Old 25-07-2010, 16:06
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So sorry, saw the term 3D as well as CGI..........my little models are in "real" 3D, as opposed to all the ID work I do in CAID software...i.e.: computer CGI. The CGI work needed to "model" those ships is very intense and takes longer (hours) than the effort that went into my tiny models. .......DFO
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Old 02-08-2010, 21:35
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Very nice models designeraccd, I could never manage such fine detail.
Over the last couple of weeks have started a new ship, her is a preview.
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Old 02-08-2010, 22:12
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Me either....anymore!! Before clicking on your preview pic I figured it was Hindenberg's foremast......those 3 are definately my favorite WW 1 era capital ship............. At least you should be able to utilize some (much??) of the model work from your previous effort!

I had a Presentation today and the clients are leaning toward what I considered the "freshest" of the 3 different 3D CAID proposals.....but the President of the Company requested a version of the design that means redoing @ 85% of it from scratch!! I'll show it rendered next to the first version so they can choose. Oh sigh...job security???! DFO
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Old 02-08-2010, 23:15
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Hindenburg, that's right. Yes, I hope to get away with modifying parts of the Lützow which will save allot of time and work.The ships are different though in many ways, I just hope to get things right.
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..........Over the last couple of weeks have started a new ship, her is a preview.
Another very fine example of your astonishing work scupper, and your incredible attention to detail. Thanks for posting it.
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Old 19-08-2010, 20:23
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Splendid work my friend - Thanks
I only wish Britain had had a ship or two like Lutzow
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Old 20-08-2010, 07:52
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Thanks allot GaryH.
Yes they were good looking ships, I sometimes dream that we could raise the Lützow
and bring her back to Wilhelmshaven and rebuild her to a museum ship.
Though I expect the wreck has deteriorated too much by now.
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Old 22-08-2010, 11:36
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HI Scupper

Yes I suspect that years of underwater errosion have taken their toll on this wonderful ship.
Not to mention the hazard of live munitions still aboard her.

I dont know if you've seen this about her sinking (its all in German and so I cant even read it but I picked it up from another website)
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Superb work, i honestly thought it was real. i do some 3d modelling, mostly for work, and i would never attempt anything like that. only one word to describe it - Awesome
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