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Old 16-03-2009, 21:31
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Thanks for that qprdave,

I was so surprised to even see it let alone understand what happened

I thought that this went out with piracy ?
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Old 16-03-2009, 22:08
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Expansion of my previous post, Ivor


Most naval personnel hope that their ship will be able to take part in a salvage operation. Those serving on LOCH class frigates between 1950 and 1964 had every reason to think that their chances were somewhat above average as many of this type of escort had been so involved. The attraction was that payments were made to all on board any warship involved in the successful recovery of a vessel in distress. The basic criterion was acknowledgement by the Master of the vessel that help had been requested to ensure the safety of his ship and its' cargo. This was done by completing an insurance document [Lloyds Open Form]. One drawback to this arrangement was that no payment was made in the event of the distressed ship being lost. The basic rule was No cure, No Pay and although great skill and bravery is needed to deal with fires and other hazards, particularly in the case of tankers, no insurance money is then payable. The cases of MV DARA and SS SKAUBRYN described below are examples of this constrain.



Salvage payments.



After a successful operation, agreement has to be reached between the Admiralty and the insurers concerned in respect of the amount of salvage money to be paid. Once this is established, it is necessary to determine how much will be retained by the Admiralty to cover costs involved, that is, fuel used by ships diverted to assist in rescue work and naval stores used for fire fighting and repair work. The balance is available for payment of salvage money and is divided into share units. The number of units allocated to individual officers and ratings depends upon the class appropriate to their rank.



There are 13 classes for Commanders and below, each having a number of share units. Flag Officers and Captains are covered by 17 separate special classes. These vary considerably according to rank, responsibility and seniority with unit allocations varying between 1,250 for a full Admiral and 100 for a Captain with less than 3 years seniority. Other examples are — a Commander-in-command has a first class allocation with 60 shares and a Petty Officer gets eight shares. The lowest category (13th class) covers supernumeraries who have two shares. The special classes are used to cover instances when a Captain or a Flag Officer is in command of a salvage operation.
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Old 17-03-2009, 05:50
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Very Grateful to you Dave,

I was not aware of that.

It sounds like a great deal of effort with a slim chance of success ...but side stepping the material gain for a moment..there is the human "rescue" to be
addressed and I assume the salvage rights add to the incentive to carry this out ?

Thank you for letting me know that.

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Old 17-03-2009, 10:42
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Thanks for your information Dave,

George Fox was promoted Acting Petty Officer Telegraphist on 3rd March 1940 from Leading Telegraphist and then promoted Petty Officer Telegraphist on 3rd March 1941 - his records at the Ministry of Defence then remain blank. So I have no further idea of whether he stayed with the PUFFIN or was transferred to another ship. I presume every Navy man had a Service Certificate - must check wuth a relative to see if it still survives as I have his medals.

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Old 22-04-2009, 19:13
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Hello all i have recently come across what looks like an old metal match box holder/clip and is crudly inscribed HMS Puffin and it has the initials of, J Hawks on the back and also 1941 on the side i found this in my grandads affects and he was called H Hawks and had a brother called Tommy Hawks but i think he or my grandad may have had the first name John.
Is there a list of names for the personel on board HMS Puffin around this time any information would be a help
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Old 05-06-2009, 17:58
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the picture of the puffin crew dated 1937 is the wrong date i think as my grandfather william sanderson stoker is on it as i have the same photo on my wall he is stood next to the man with peak cap on the right below the bridge 2nd from the right have mislaid for now his service record so cant remember when he joined puffin also have him listed on pembroke,badger,terror and several LSTs was great to see the pics as have searched all over trying to find info
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Old 01-08-2009, 00:19
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Hi

When HMS Puffin rammed the midget sub & damaged itself, it also
possibly damaged a nearby frigate, K555 HMS Retalick.

Anyone know what damage may have occurred to the frigate?

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Old 03-08-2009, 17:42
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I was on H M S Puffin in 1944 until she paid off after ramming the Submarine in March 1945. I was the Q.M. on the wheel at the time. Can you give any other information about the person you are asking about such as rank, christian name or branch. I am one of the people in the photo taken on for's'le.

Let me know if I can help you in your search.
I am looking for information on my father who served on the Puffin, his name was Arthur William Diwell. I believe he was a Petty Officer but I could be wrong. I would appreciate any information you might have. David W Diwell
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Old 24-08-2009, 03:32
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Thanks.

My father was "chief" on the HMS Retalick & somewhere/sometime he won a DSC for what he did in the engine room after an attack went wrong & caused damage to the engine room.

I am trying to find out what action it was. Someone suggested it was
HMS PUFFIN that caused the damage.

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Old 25-08-2009, 10:21
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I was on H M S Puffin in 1944 until she paid off after ramming the Submarine in March 1945. I was the Q.M. on the wheel at the time. Can you give any other information about the person you are asking about such as rank, christian name or branch. I am one of the people in the photo taken on for's'le.

Let me know if I can help you in your search.
I wonder if you can help me too - my Grandfather was on HMS Puffin 1938-1945 - Chief Stoker William Charles Lawrence - he was awarded the DSM 12th June 1943
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Old 04-10-2009, 15:09
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Does anyone have a photograph of HMS Pintail?
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Old 04-10-2009, 15:43
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Victor,

There's a photo of PINTAIL in the Imperial War Museum online collection - ref number A 7577. Go to their search page (http://www.iwmcollections.org.uk/qryMain.php) and type in "HMS PINTAIL". You'll see a small reproduction of the photo.

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Old 05-10-2009, 17:59
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Thank ypu TJ, that's my collection of Kingfisher complete.
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Old 16-10-2009, 08:16
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Ivor, my Father has more photos and he has joined the site so he will be adding them shortly

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My Grandfather is on this photo - I'd like to see more photos if you have them.
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Old 15-12-2011, 11:38
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Hi All, I'm new to this site and was wondering whether there are any crew lists available for HMS Puffin. My Granddad was a Leading Stoker on HMS Puffin from Dec '36 to April '37. I'd really like to see his name appear on a list or even a photo with him in it so I can show my dad. Probably a long shot but I hope you can help?
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Old 16-12-2011, 13:12
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Hi so was the grounding and bow damage due to the ramming of a midget submarine... might have missed something
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Old 23-06-2012, 10:53
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Dear All,

I read with interest about the fact, that there are eyewitnesses of the above mentioned Incident. I am researching the Seehund actions and I have still some "white pages" in my research. One of them is the ramming of HMS Puffin. What I know is that on 26. March 1945 HMS Puffin rammed a Seehund about 7 sm off buoy 4 near North Foreland. The crew of the Seehund was taken POW. I would like to know if someone can remember the submarine number and / or the name(s) of the crew, as this information is lost due to destroying all papers at the end of war. Also an action Report, if available, would be helpful. Any information would help to identify the crew.

The background for my interest is to write the history of the Seehund Division at Ijmuiden. One of my uncles was a member of KdK (Kommando der Kleinkampfverbände) at that time. He luckily never went to action and survived the war.

If you have any information or if you can name another information source, please answer.

Yours sincerely,

Ingo Barkus, Hannover/Germany
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:39
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A few interesting pictures of the Patrol Sloop HMS Puffin.
hi just trying to find some info on my grandad all we no is he was on hms puffin his name is Arthur william john figg any info would be helpful
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Old 07-11-2012, 16:23
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George gray Jeffery ward Arther William John Figg where all on board HMS Puffin
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Hi believe my grandad was on the Puffin in the 40s i believe he was sent off the ship to escort 2 sailors to their new ship dont know if anyone on here served during this time his name is ivan originally from sheffield if that helps if so does any one have any pictures with him for a year he was aboard thank you
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Old 06-10-2017, 11:58
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hi. first time posting here. im looking into my dads family tree. his uncle was leslie wood and i believe he was on the puffin in 1945. possibly something to do with the post. would love to be able to get more information for dad
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Old 14-12-2017, 10:20
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I wonder if you can help. My dad was on the Puffin at the same time. His name was ken lowery, he was a geordie, and i believe was the wireless operator. Do you recall or have any memories. Regards mike
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