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Old 12-09-2010, 07:55
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I am told that the first new mast will be stepped on wednesday so that should be the next batch of pics; if anyone lives nearby you should get a good view from the Tower or the nearest embankment.

There was a question of placing coins under the new masts or if this was only for new builds, my advice was to do it and to do it with Russian and British coins. Anyone got any insight into this custom and advice?
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:19
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Tim, thanks for keeping us so well briefed.

This explanation seems as good as any other:

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How it all got started, and why you still need one there

Sailors have long believed a coin under the mast brings luck. This ritual is believed to have started with the Romans, whose custom it was to place a coin in the mouth of a dead person to pay Charon, the boatman who ferried the souls of the dead across the River Styx to Hades. Hades in those days was simply the home of the dead, not the specific domain of Satan in the modern colloquial sense.Of course, there may be some of you who are convinced that you are headed for hell anyway, no matter what happens. So you might want to forgo the coin-placing ritual and spend the money instead on wild women, liquor, poker, new gear for the boat, and other sinful pleasures. What’s to lose?

More cautious boaters will realize that placing a coin under the mast is another way to earn points for the black box in which your boat’s luck is stored. It’s a cheap price to pay.

Skeptics should note that even the U.S. Navy takes this ritual seriously. Officers of the USS New Orleans, launched in 1933, placed 33 coins—pennies, nickels, and dimes—under her foremast and mainmast. All were carefully placed heads up. And the destroyer USS Higgins, commissioned in April 1999, had 11 coins specially selected for her mast stepping, some of them very rare and going back to Roman times.But you don’t need to use rare or expensive coins. In fact, in the days of wooden ships, when even skilled artisans earned comparatively little, it was regarded as imprudent to use gold. Besides, there wasn’t much point in paying Charon more than he could find change for. Rather, select a coin that means something to you, one that was minted in the year the boat was launched perhaps, or one from the year you were born.

Incidentally, most people glue the coin in place with epoxy or 3M 5200 these days, but it does worry me; I hope Charon can get it if the need arises.
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Old 13-09-2010, 04:40
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Dear Rob, very many thanks for that, all looks pretty convincing. I have posted it on to the ship so i hope they will go for it.
Watch this space!
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Old 13-09-2010, 09:42
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Dear All,
The time set for stepping the new mainmast is 0700+/- on wednesday morning, early commuters along the embankment on either side or crossing London Brifge should have a fine view. The mast will be hoisted inboard in a single lift. Plenty of pics on thursday....
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Old 13-09-2010, 11:33
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Thank you for keeping us informed Tim, it should be an interesting spectacle for those lucky enough to be in the area..

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Old 13-09-2010, 15:22
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Tim,

Thanks for the updates. I'm really enjoying this thread.

It's about time I visited HMS Belfast once more. Perhaps October half-term will see her fully re-opened again.

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Old 13-09-2010, 17:28
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A fine thread update Tim - thanks for all your work with this.
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Old 14-09-2010, 01:34
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Dear Tim, thanks for keeping us up to date with the installing of the masts.
What a site to see, oh to be in England, please post some photos,best wishes. Doug.Birch
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Old 15-09-2010, 04:48
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Dear All, the real pleasure in this is your appreciation, thanks for your support. Here are yesterdays pics, most of the intervenint time has been in cleaning up the mountings and preparing for today's big lift of the mainmast into position which should go off at around 0730. Yesterday when i got there there were BBC and Russian TV crews on site interviewing the engineering team and generally geting confused on the price, or more to the point, value, of the project. As lawyers would put it, for the avoidance of doubt, the value of the project is a little bit north of $2 million by the time the mast have bee copied, brought over, all the hire of equipment taken into account, the provision and payment of engineers, removal and reinstatement of all the rigging, radars, meteo systems and making good so dont be over impressed by the talk of much lower figures the press seem to have got stuck in their minds.
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Old 15-09-2010, 06:26
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Great progress, Tim. Can't wait to see the mast in place. When is the foremast due, and what coins were chosen to place under the mainmast?

Looking forward to seeing her new mast in place. You have been very modest, but I know you have been the key driving force behind all of this. Your father would have been so proud of your efforts. I know he is looking on.

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Old 15-09-2010, 13:32
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMIzKR7oIOU

this is the russian news from yesterday, some of the roubles were mine
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Old 15-09-2010, 21:22
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A great clip Tim and a great insight into the work being done, although I will have to brush up on my Russian

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Old 16-09-2010, 05:14
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I wondered what those guys were speaking Great to see the progress. Tim, congratulations on another "step" toward refurbishing that fine old warrior.

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Old 16-09-2010, 05:20
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yesterday's mounting of the main, more to follow
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Old 17-09-2010, 15:20
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She is looking good, I spent several hours onboard a couple of years ago, I purposely went alone. Being ex Engine Room , it brought back many memories. How I wish there had been more vessels saved, it would have been enthralling to look over my first ship Vanguard. Incidentally & a bit off course, have the machinery spaces in Cavalier been opened up yet? Keep up the good work Tim.
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Old 17-09-2010, 15:47
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Hi,

This is really a fine project. It is great to see the ongoing work. A visit to the ship's bridge is quite thrilling, particularly when the audio production of the Battle of the North Cape is experienced. Unforgettable.

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Old 17-09-2010, 23:33
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yesterday's mounting of the main, more to follow

Tim,

Re pic #4;
Dare I suggest that the flying of the Union flag by all those other cranes on the right of your picture, gives one the impression that the operators/owners of said structures felt that they were actually part of the evolution and that although unable to participate, they were certainly 'willing' the project on!!!!

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Old 18-09-2010, 07:49
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monday morning is the big day for the foremast, starting at 0730 but likely to take all morning for those of you in the region, then there is all the kit to reinstate but completion day is set for 24th.
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Old 18-09-2010, 14:26
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Thanks again for all your efforts in keeping the forum up to date Tim - it is greatly appreciated.
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Old 21-09-2010, 05:06
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Dear All, here we are; its hard to say what these six pictures represent, the task of replacing the masts is almost complete, the next couple of days will see the repainted and cleaned up radar scanners and rigging go back up and all the halyards rerigged. The task will be completed on the 24th when there will be a private celebration to thanks the Russian shipwrights for their incomparable effort in completing this huge project, two weeks ahead of the anticipated scedule. Thanks go too to the British team from Medtow and Houlders and all the incredible genorosity of the sponsors. Once its all over I will write a longer article for you but for now lets just allow ourselves a huge grin of satisfaction!
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Old 21-09-2010, 08:24
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Thanks Tim. I'm certainly grinning. You must be very proud of your achievements and have every right to be so.
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Old 21-09-2010, 12:31
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What fantastic photo's!

This has been such a great project to follow.

Well done to all concerned, especially you Tim.

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Old 21-09-2010, 12:32
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must admit, it's a good lookin ship, love tha paint job, why cant RN vessels be like that nowadays, like the Visby Class Corvettes of the Swedish Navy (love the 57mm BOFORS, pity we cant do that with our 4.5" guns)
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Nice to see you tidying up the ship for my forth coming vist

BZ to all for the hard work in keeping HMS Belfast as a living museum.
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