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Old 18-05-2008, 17:31
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Hello All,
One of my ancestors served on HMS Orion between Februray 1914 and April 1915.
Can anyone tell me if that ship was involved in any battles at that time and what type of ship was it?
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Old 18-05-2008, 17:36
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"Orion" was the lead ship of the "Orion" class dreadnought battleships and th first of the so-called "Super-dreadnoughts". To my knowledge she wasn't directly involved in any fighting until the Battle of Jutland in 1916.

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Old 18-05-2008, 17:57
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Harley,
That's interesting as my Great Aunt told me that her uncle was in the battle of Jutland. However, that is not possible as he was killed in 1915. I guess she just recalls the battle of Jutland and knew that her uncle was on the Orion.
Thanks for your note.
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Old 18-05-2008, 18:52
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Julia - A picture of the Orion.
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Old 18-05-2008, 20:48
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Julia

Welcome to the forum!

If you don't mind me asking.....do you know the circumstances of your great uncles death? Was he aboard HMS Orion? and was he killed in action? for example.


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Old 18-05-2008, 21:23
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If you have his name then perhaps the CWGC database will have his details on. There are a number of people on this forum and others who know about this kind of file scouring.

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Old 18-05-2008, 21:30
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A couple more pics of the Orion for you Julia.

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Old 19-05-2008, 20:27
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First of all many thanks to Bob and Terry for the pics of the Orion, its great to see what she looked like.

Harley - My ancestor's name was James Curnow and I have found the reference on the CWGC database. His name is on the War Memorial at Ludgvan churchyard. I've visited it and have a photo of the memorial.

So, to continue the above story and answer John's question, the circumstances of the death of James Curnow is really rather sad. He was not onboard at the time of his death as he had just gone on shore leave. Having just been promoted the story goes that he was rushing to catch a tram in Plymouth to get back to Cornwall to tell his family about the promotion, fell and was killed by another tram. His death certificate and his service record both record it as an accidental death.
He is still listed on the war memorial as having been killed in WW1.
I'm told that the funeral was massive so I imagine he must have been a very well respected and popular man. Apparently 'hundreds' of sailors came to St.Erth in Cornwall by train and marched in the funeral procession to Ludgvan Church for the funeral, it must have been quite a sight.

What is also interesting is that my Grandmother had a white china rose which has something to do with James and the navy. I'm also told that he was buried at Ludgvan and that there was a glass case on the grave with china flowers and the names of all the ships he served on. This has long since been destroyed unfortunately and the plot overgrown so I've not yet managed to locate it. I don't know how much of this is truth and how much has been embellishment over time, after all, they were all very proud of him.

I've had ideas about china flowers and China Station, might be nothing because I've not yet found out about China Station but I'm told he was there too so there may be a connection. He served on HMS Kent from 1907-1909and I believe that ship may have been at China Station.
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Old 19-05-2008, 20:34
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Hi julia,

we just happen to have an entire photo album of HMS Kent and crew from the China station about 1909 - 1912 roughly. Here is a link if you are interested or have not seen it already:

http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.u...outh_class.htm

(Click HMS Kent in the initial list of ships near the top)
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Old 19-05-2008, 21:02
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What a fabulous photo album! Unbelievable to think those pictures were taken almost a hundred years ago. Thank you for directing me to that album its wonderful to see all the faces and pictures of the men working.

So, I have to ask the question just in case ...... what would a Petty Officer have looked like? He was a Petty Officer II in 1907 until 1911 when he became a Petty Officer I.
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Julia, your mans Admiralty death record:

CURNOW, JAMES, P.O., 204807, H.M. Battleship ORION, 23-Apr-15, ACCIDENT.

The ORION did suffer any asualties from action in 1914-15.

The records do not show KENT having any casualties during 1907-1909.
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Launching of HMS Orion

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A launching picture of Orion as she heads down the slipway.
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Hello I wonder can anyone tell me where I could find the details of an accident aboard HMS Orion July 1918 which killed at least one person a John MacDonald.
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Ann

The only information I have from Naval-History.net is the bare statement.....

Wednesday 31 July 1918 John Macdonald Ordinary Seaman J72487 drowned.

No other fatalities listed from the ship at that time.

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I have just finished typing up my Grandfathers diary written onboard HMS Orion between july 1914 and may 1915. During this time he served as a Gunner on Orion. He records not only routine life on board but many incidents around the British coast and abroad. Coaling and provision details,subs spotted with positions,sinkings,prizecrews,accidents and men overboard. Many references to condenser problems on Orion and other Battleships.Various names of crew members killed in accidents,being washed overboard,or drowned in sinkings. Many ships are named, colliers, armed fishing vessels etc.
I intend to publish the diary later this year,probably as a kindle book.
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I have just finished typing up my Grandfathers diary written onboard HMS Orion between july 1914 and may 1915.
I intend to publish the diary later this year,probably as a kindle book.
It sounds fascinating Dicky - any chance you might post some of the more interesting "snippets" here on these Forums prior to publishing the entire diary?

I am sure you would find a most interested/appreciative audience here!
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Hello Dicky Bow and a very warm welcome the Forums. Just to let you know that I merged your post with an existing thread about the ship.

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I have just finished typing up my Grandfathers diary written onboard HMS Orion between july 1914 and may 1915. During this time he served as a Gunner on Orion. He records not only routine life on board but many incidents around the British coast and abroad. Coaling and provision details,subs spotted with positions,sinkings,prizecrews,accidents and men overboard. Many references to condenser problems on Orion and other Battleships.Various names of crew members killed in accidents,being washed overboard,or drowned in sinkings. Many ships are named, colliers, armed fishing vessels etc.
I intend to publish the diary later this year,probably as a kindle book.
Have you made progress with this diary, Dicky?
My grandfather served on HMS Orion at the same time, and I would love to read more about life on board
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Old 26-03-2017, 14:15
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Have you made progress with this diary, Dicky?
My grandfather served on HMS Orion at the same time, and I would love to read more about life on board
Hi Annie:

Will be interested to see whether you receive a reply - Dicky hasn't visited this site since February 2014.
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The crew list of HMS Orion at the Battle of Jutland. Names are being added on a regular basis.
http://www.jutlandcrewlists.org/orion
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