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Old 22-07-2017, 10:21
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Thanks Mike

Strange, I thought I had collected Derek's book and that included his badge collection, seems i was wrong, do you think that there are many more badges around that were not in Derek's book that still need sorting, seems that Magic was not in Ed's book (Disc ) or Alan's book ( Disc ), i guess it was just not thought important enough at the time, or even considered unofficial,
once again Mike ,BIG THANKS FROM ME
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No Tom,Derek had a lot of photos of badges that were not in the book.
They are out there somewhere,as his son said, when they are gone that is it.
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Old 22-07-2017, 15:00
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Greetings Mike,

I had dealing with Derek through Ron Taylor in the Decorating Room In Portsmouth Dockyard , but as we know Derek passed away and at the time he was part of the trio compiling the Books on badges , and they all at some time popped into the Dockyard to check colours etc from Ron or his staff in the decorating room,
Looks like a missed opportunity on my behalf, I often think that there are lots and lots of badges out and about that will never see the light of day,
I collect unofficial badges as well as official so you can only guess as to how many i have and how many i have never seen

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Old 31-07-2017, 06:29
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All,

I was in my local in Gosport on Friday night and although I have been in there several times, I have never noticed this badge before?

Its quite high over the mantelpiece and I must have passed it quite a few times.

I checked Colledges and there has never been a ship of this name.

The landlady informed me that it came from a group based in HMS St Vincent, some years earlier.

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Old 31-07-2017, 11:43
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Craig

Oasis (ex-Al Suez) Trawler Egyptian purchased as Auxiliary Patrol Trawler March 1940 Sold 1946.

Badge is unofficial.

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Old 31-07-2017, 18:23
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Greetings Craig/Gerry,

I know that what i have in my collection is true as it was collected from a serving CPO S(A) who was ivolved in this project, and yes they had a part of the project stationed in St Vincent,

Field.............Light Blue
Description.......A Palm tree brown stem with green leaves on a mound of green grass
Shape.............Circular
Date..............1-7-2008
Motto.............None Known
Remarks...........Oasis was a naval stores project

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Old 31-07-2017, 18:27
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Greetings Craig/Garry,

This is what i have in my collection for this badge passed to me from a serving CPO S(A) who was involved in the project,

Field.............Light Blue
Description.....A Palm tree brown stem with green leaves on a mound of green grass
Shape.............Circular
Date...............1-7-2008
Motto..............None Known
Remarks..........Oasis was a naval stores project

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Old 31-07-2017, 20:59
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Bit more info on the OASIS Badge,

On-board Automated Ships Information System. RN stores accounting
package

Hope this helps
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Old 03-08-2017, 14:08
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I served on the Submarine Aurochs from 1959 to 61 in Canada. One of the talking points re the moto was that someone in the Admiralty must have had a sense of humour. The translation from the Latin was "Bulshit Baffles Brains".
If I remember it was something like "Homo Sapientum Excreta Taurus"
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Old 10-08-2017, 02:16
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Stoker PO; Did the 6th Submarine Squadron, RN, have an official or unofficial badge whilst stationed in Halifax?
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Old 10-08-2017, 21:02
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Stoker PO; Did the 6th Submarine Squadron, RN, have an official or unofficial badge whilst stationed in Halifax?
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Yup - the shore base for the squadron was known as "HMS Ambrose" and the crest was as shown here:

http://www.forposterityssake.ca/RCN-DOCS/6THSUBSQN.htm

Click on "Cover and Introduction" section.

The book "Ambrosia," of which I am fortunate to have a copy, provides a wonderful insight into the squadron and its personnel.

A rogues gallery and another portrayal of the badge here:

http://www.forposterityssake.ca/SE/SE0006.htm
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Old 11-08-2017, 18:52
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Yup - the shore base for the squadron was known as "HMS Ambrose" and the crest was as shown here:

http://www.forposterityssake.ca/RCN-DOCS/6THSUBSQN.htm

Click on "Cover and Introduction" section.

The book "Ambrosia," of which I am fortunate to have a copy, provides a wonderful insight into the squadron and its personnel.

A rogues gallery and another portrayal of the badge here:

http://www.forposterityssake.ca/SE/SE0006.htm
Derek Taylor would tell you 'They're Badges NOT crests'.

Here is the official badge for HMS AMBROSE, originally approved in 1921.

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Old 11-08-2017, 19:06
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Greetings all,
Once again i have a problem any help would be appreciated , i have posted this badge before but never had any replies, so i am trying again, it looks like a helicopter head on in a naval frame but with some connection to the RAF,

Once again thanks Tom
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Old 11-08-2017, 22:07
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All,

I was in my local in Gosport on Friday night and although I have been in there several times, I have never noticed this badge before?

Its quite high over the mantelpiece and I must have passed it quite a few times.

I checked Colledges and there has never been a ship of this name.

The landlady informed me that it came from a group based in HMS St Vincent, some years earlier.

Regards,



Craig.

There used to be a Ratings Bar at RNH Imtarfa at Malta in 1975-6. That was called the Oasis Club. I am sure this was hanging above the bar.
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Old 12-08-2017, 20:58
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Derek Taylor would tell you 'They're Badges NOT crests'.

Here is the official badge for HMS AMBROSE, originally approved in 1921.

Cheers,

Ed
Thanks Ed - a much better image than I could find!

And you and Derek are quite correct about "badges"... I stand corrected and hang my head in shame!
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Old 21-08-2017, 14:04
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Greetings,
This weekend i visited the Hovercraft Museum at Lee-on Solent and found a NAVAL PARTY BADGE No 8902, Checking on line there is a large list of these NAVAL PARTY BADGES, over 8000, i am now trying to sort out this section of Naval Badges, There must be a goldmine out there with Naval Party badges, can anyone send me pictures of these badges for my collection, any help would be appreciated
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Old 28-08-2017, 03:47
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Have searched this thread and see only one mention of Hans Maschek, the carver who translated the sealed pattern into a 3D piece of art that was then used to create a mould for casting the actual brass badges. He made over 800 carvings from 1921 until his retirement in the late 1950s. Can anyone expand on this please? Who replaced Maschek and what do they do now - use a 3D printer I suppose.
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Old 28-08-2017, 16:32
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After Maschek retired I believe the dockyards used there own carvers/pattern makers. I know most depot ships had a pattern maker on board who also did carvings, there was one in Dolphin until closure.
Once the dockyards started to run down the onus was on the ship builders to supply the badges. Vickers at Barrow had a carver as did Yarrows amongst others. Cutbacks and closures saw the end of them and the work was contracted out, R.Pollack did the carvings until his recent retirement. I believe a young lady has now taken over the task. However with the low numbers of new builds I do not think she will make a fortune at it especially if someone realises that the patterns for the Type 26 already exist.
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Old 28-08-2017, 17:23
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I posted this yesterday on the "HMS Tartar" thread, and have noticed that the Tartar's head is looking to the right, whereas it is looking to the left on the images posted previously on this thread.

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Previously posted:

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Is there a right or wrong way for the head to face?
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Old 28-08-2017, 18:55
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I posted this yesterday on the "HMS Tartar" thread, and have noticed that the Tartar's head is looking to the right, whereas it is looking to the left on the images posted previously on this thread.

Attachment 162412

Previously posted:

Attachment 66927 Attachment 66928


Is there a right or wrong way for the head to face?
The fact that there is no Naval Crown means it was a boat badge. A badge for the boat's Port Side would be produced in Reverse compared to the Starboard badge, which would be the Sealed Pattern view.

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Old 28-08-2017, 19:21
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The fact that there is no Naval Crown means it was a boat badge. A badge for the boat's Port Side would be produced in Reverse compared to the Starboard badge, which would be the Sealed Pattern view.
Thanks Ed, I knew there had to be reason. The inscription mentions that it is a 'quarter badge'; would it be correct to say that it is a port quarter badge?
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Old 29-08-2017, 03:47
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After Maschek retired I believe the dockyards used there own carvers/pattern makers. I know most depot ships had a pattern maker on board who also did carvings, there was one in Dolphin until closure.
Once the dockyards started to run down the onus was on the ship builders to supply the badges. Vickers at Barrow had a carver as did Yarrows amongst others. Cutbacks and closures saw the end of them and the work was contracted out, R.Pollack did the carvings until his recent retirement. I believe a young lady has now taken over the task. However with the low numbers of new builds I do not think she will make a fortune at it especially if someone realises that the patterns for the Type 26 already exist.
Dave,part letter from Richardson to ffoulks 1919 on badge carvings,when he was getting them done for ships at Swan Hunter.
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Old 09-09-2017, 18:45
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Greetings
once again i have a badg with no information to go with it any help would be most appreciated,
i have tried HMS SANCTON.HMS SANDTON, but no luck]
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Old 13-09-2017, 19:59
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Greetings again,

i have this badge but only initial can anyone put meat on the bone and let me know what it should be

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Old 14-09-2017, 06:02
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Greetings
once again i have a badg with no information to go with it any help would be most appreciated,
i have tried HMS SANCTON.HMS SANDTON, but no luck]
warm regards Tom
Tom,

It's an unofficial for the Ton Class Minesweeper SANTON.
Whoever made it didn't pass his NAMET English test!

Ed retouched it and it is on his CD (and possibly on this site somewhere?)

Regards,

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Old 14-09-2017, 14:26
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Greetings again,

i have this badge but only initial can anyone put meat on the bone and let me know what it should be

regards Tom
This is the MAC 1014 Nuclear Support Barge used by the RN at Devonport Naval base for submarines along side the sea wall and later in No 5 Basin. Was broken up in No 8 Dock prior to 1995. Tony
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