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Old 19-02-2018, 21:44
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Strangely I cannot recall anyone changing the plugs over or interfering with them in anyway. Seems that once the sparkers set them up they remained in that position for posterity!!!

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Not true of any ship I served in Gerry.

There was much re-configuring of the layout that took place in a number of offices/rooms.

This was necessary to satisfy the equipment requirements/changes arising from the Complan formulated for every exercise, and/or serial(s) in an exercise, where the ship was a participant.


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Complan = Communications Plan
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Old 19-02-2018, 21:49
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concur absolutely little h. One wonders if Gerry has perhaps confused this with something else!
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Old 19-02-2018, 22:39
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Thank Gawd I was only on older small ships.
Does anyone remember wire recorders? e.g. Used on Air Stns. for Air to Air, Air to Ground and Range freqs.
Also recorders used for transcription which had metal discs larger than the old 33.3 rpm plastic records?
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Old 20-02-2018, 10:41
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I think we had a wire recorder in the SRE on HMS Glasgow in the 50's.
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Old 20-02-2018, 12:06
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I remember this system being sited inside the door of the Upper and Lower receiving rooms on the Lion and nearly identical on Dido years later.

Strangely I cannot recall anyone changing the plugs over or interfering with them in anyway. Seems that once the sparkers set them up they remained in that position for posterity!!!

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Wish that had been so Gerry .... would have made my life a lot easier. As Harry says the plugging was dependant on the requirements of the Complan [Communications Plan] for the day and changes thereto caused by Equipment Failures or Requirement changes dictated by the Exercise Programme ...... the busiest always being during the six week intensive workups of newly crewed Ships at Portland under FOST [Flag Officer Sea Training]. Only passage or local Communications would allow a standard plugging and even that had it's ups and downs. I will agree that where it was possible the same Transmitters with corresponding Receivers would be allocated to the same bays , positions [ie. Tactical Primary [UHF Comms between Ships would be permanently to the Bridge].

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Old 20-02-2018, 12:39
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SQA

Another item that I have never seen.
Nor the origin of the emblem.
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Old 21-02-2018, 13:28
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SQA

Another item that I have never seen.
Nor the origin of the emblem.
FSA That had a different meaning in my day.
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SQA

Another item that I have never seen.
Nor the origin of the emblem.
Apologies if I am stating the obvious, with the N and the D and the ban the bomb sign = Nuclear Disarmament.

Maybe the bunting was a peacenik !
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Old 21-02-2018, 16:45
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Apologies if I am stating the obvious, with the N and the D and the ban the bomb sign = Nuclear Disarmament.

Maybe the bunting was a peacenik !
Just to clarify Navyking - what I meant was that I never knew how the symbol originated.

"Gerald Holtom, a conscientious objector who had worked on a farm in Norfolk during the Second World War, explained that the symbol incorporated the semaphore letters N(uclear) and D(isarmament).
He later wrote to Hugh Brock, editor of Peace News, explaining the genesis of his idea in greater, more personal depth:
'I was in despair. Deep despair. I drew myself: the representative of an individual in despair, with hands palm outstretched outwards and downwards in the manner of Goya's peasant before the firing squad. I formalised the drawing into a line and put a circle round it.'
Eric Austen added his own interpretation of the design: 'the gesture of despair had long been associated with the death of Man and the circle with the unborn child.' "

From - http://www.cnduk.org/about/item/435-the-cnd-symbol
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Old 21-02-2018, 17:36
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Hi All

The original emblems were made from clay as in the event of nuclear holocaust they would be one of the only things left as they were not combustible.

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Just to clarify Navyking - what I meant was that I never knew how the symbol originated.

"Gerald Holtom, a conscientious objector who had worked on a farm in Norfolk during the Second World War, explained that the symbol incorporated the semaphore letters N(uclear) and D(isarmament).
He later wrote to Hugh Brock, editor of Peace News, explaining the genesis of his idea in greater, more personal depth:
'I was in despair. Deep despair. I drew myself: the representative of an individual in despair, with hands palm outstretched outwards and downwards in the manner of Goya's peasant before the firing squad. I formalised the drawing into a line and put a circle round it.'
Eric Austen added his own interpretation of the design: 'the gesture of despair had long been associated with the death of Man and the circle with the unborn child.' "

From - http://www.cnduk.org/about/item/435-the-cnd-symbol
My Apologies Pelican, I misunderstood your post #2406. Thanks for explanation of the symbol and the link, very enlightening to the origin of it.

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Old 22-02-2018, 14:25
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SQA

Another item that I have never seen.
Nor the origin of the emblem.
Cannot remember ever seeing a SQA on a RN Ship ,,,,,,,, but a faint memory of RFA's fit lingers. Think they were fitted on Fort Charlotte , Fort Rosalie , Retainer , Olna and Reliant in the 60's Far East plus the other RFA's of that time. [I did spells on all the named 62/63/64 on FE Fleet Pool].

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Old 22-02-2018, 18:09
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HF RX R500 AND TT36

Info - "TT36....loved a bit of arrangement 1 shift parameters
What time period are we in now, I left 1988 not seen one of these !
The R500 has been in for ages; we had one on the Glamorgan for trials in about 85 and they're still fitted on T23"
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Gosh! How posh! I never saw that receiver during my time in service and as for the TT36 - well - the TT10 and the TT11 were about as far as we had reached back then. They were very reliable tone converters in my opinion. I do remember the SQA but I am damned if I can remember which ships had one.
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RADHAZ BOARD

Now known as SHIPHAZ.

"I was aloft maintaining the main roof on the Tenby and had drawn the keys of the ship inboard of us and our own keys. I went to put a handful of vaseline on end of the main roof (dead end guide grips ?) and it melted. I immediately climbed down and went to the RADHAZ board and the OOD had released all the keys with only our 640 keys still in the board. I ripped into the OOD and told him exactly what I thought of him. Thankfully, he was probably looking at a serious charge and just stood there and took it."

"Had a similar incident on the Birmingham, was halfway up the mast when one of radars started rotating. OOD2 a middy had released the keys. He knew he was in the wrong and took my anglo saxon on the chin. SCO then turned up who really tore him a new arse. Seems it wasnt a foolproof system."
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David/Pelican,

The use of the term RADHAZ is still quite prevalent in many of the DEFSTAN and JSP documents one can access on t'internet - certainly up to 2015/16.

Re. recent attachments; so many of the 'exhibits' carry a label annotated CM0XXXX - one is prompted to ask where are these piecies of equipment on view?


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David/Pelican,

The use of the term RADHAZ is still quite prevalent in many of the DEFSTAN and JSP documents one can access on t'internet - certainly up to 2015/16.

Re. recent attachments; so many of the 'exhibits' carry a label annotated CM0XXXX - one is prompted to ask where are these piecies of equipment on view?


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Believe tis here Harry - http://www.rnmuseumradarandcommunications2006.org.uk/
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OK thanks very much David. I'm frequently on that site and admit not having happened across some of the attachments you have put up.

The labels were a clue.

However, since I find neither the Communications nor the Radar matrices particularily to my liking, thought that asking would avoid further frustration


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