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Old 06-05-2008, 18:34
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Default RN Shore Training Establishment: HMS Vernon

Hi everyone,
For those mebers who served there, this is how it looks now. I have take some photos of the remaining original buildings but apart from the Admin block, do not know what they used to be. The site was sold off a number of years ago for development and is now known as Gunwharf Quays, a combination of housing, shops, restaurants, bars and night clubs. The site is dominated by the Spinnaker Tower which has viewing platforms which give a magnificent view accross the whole area including the Solent.
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Old 06-05-2008, 18:47
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Here are the pix I posted the other day that have since gone missing...
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Old 06-05-2008, 18:54
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Thanks Rik,
I asked at the time if they were taken in the 70's as the RCT Maritime badge was on the main gate. You confirmed it was taken, I think, on the Silver Jubilee.
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Old 06-05-2008, 19:12
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Here are the ones that I posted and disappeared.

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Old 06-05-2008, 19:40
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Thanks Bob,
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Hopefully not too much was lost. Great to see everything up and running again.
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Some more from the Good Old Days.....
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Hi Bob.Shayler,I did my electrical & torpedo training at H.M.S.Vernon 1941,but it was Brighton at Roedean girls school we had cabins & a bell to ring for a mistress, when we rang it all we got was a irate C.P.O.we were housed at St. Dunstans (the blind institute ) Doug. birch Ex.-EA
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Old 26-06-2008, 21:12
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Hi Doug,
Found your story really funny, I can imagine the irate CPO charging in to find out who had rung the bell,
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Hi bob, Ithink I had a strange introduction to the navy,it started with a stint at Borstal Rochester for drill.We were sleeping in cells(doors open).borstal boys in the next block, then Roedean, then the blind institute,I
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These are some views, (one at the far end showing the Isle of Wight car ferry terminal) of what used to be HMS Vernon, now Gun Wharf Quays. Hopefully, Bob can sharpen these up as well. Bob, I would be gratefull if you could tell me how you do it,
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Here you are then Bob, hope you got my PM.

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These are some views, (one at the far end showing the Isle of Wight car ferry terminal) of what used to be HMS Vernon, now Gun Wharf Quays. Hopefully, Bob can sharpen these up as well. Bob, I would be gratefull if you could tell me how you do it,
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Bob,

The Isle of Wight car ferry is in the Camber which was never part of HMS Vernon. Apart from fising vessels, it also housed Vosper Thornycroft's Broad Street Yard (link):



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One part of this post reminded me of my Grandfather. He was posted to HMS Vernon during the First World War and served on the attached trawlers Russell II and Welbeck. He was Mentioned in Dispatches on 3.8.1917 because he went aft to secure a mine that had come adrift during a storm. I understand that in those days HMS Vernon was the name given to the ship that was attached to the mine school. During this period the former HMS Warrior served as HMS Vernon, so it is good that she is back there now.
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Old 04-08-2008, 14:05
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If that's the case Doug this should bring back some memories!

http://aolsearch.aol.co.uk/aol/image...playCount%3D18

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Old 23-03-2010, 10:06
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Ladies and Gentlemen,

HMS Vernon's Badge

Historical information and photos regarding HMS Vernon can be seen on the MCDOA website here and on Tony Drury's excellent website here. Many of the images have already been reproduced in this thread.

HMS Vernon seems to have had two ship's badges in its time:


I scanned the first version from the frontispiece of 'HMS Vernon - A short History from 1930 to 1955' by Cdr E. D. Webb RN and the Wardroom Mess Committee, published in 1955. The design is also evident on the music stands of HMS Vernon's wartime volunteer band, seen playing in the theatre here:


I would like to know when the more familiar second badge superseded the first. I suspect it was in 1961 when, according to 'The Torpedomen - HMS Vernon's story 1872-1986' by Rear Admiral Nicho Poland CB, CBE, Osprey closed down as an A/S school and all training was transferred to Vernon along with the various caravans containing mobile teachers (ASUATs as I remember them). Does anyone know the answer?

Project Vernon

Project Vernon is the campaign to erect a monument at Gunwharf Quays to commemorate the Minewarfare and Diving heritage of HMS Vernon which previously stood on the site. This is intended as a legacy for future generations and will honour a broad range of people including:
  • First World War naval personnel involved in the development, laying and sweeping of mines.
  • Second World War mine designers, mine countermeasures boffins, RMS (Rendering Mines Safe) personnel, BSOs (Bomb Safety Officers and other RN EOD (Explosive Ordnance Disposal) personnel as well as those who have since dealt with bombs, mines and other explosive devices all over the world and, even now, are serving in Afghanistan.
  • MX Wrens who put together 'special' mine assemblies designed to thwart German minesweeping efforts during the Second World War.
  • All those who were trained in minewarfare at HMS Vernon or were involved in designing, laying, sweeping, hunting or rendering safe mines. Before the advent of the MW Branch, these included Torpedo and TAS Branch personnel as well as surface ship crew members, aviators and submariners.
  • All those trained or involved in experimental diving, deep diving, clearance diving and ship's diving or who were based in diving teams at HMS Vernon.
  • All those RN and RNR personnel who have served in minesweepers, minehunters and diving tenders operating out of HMS Vernon or even visiting it for exercises.
Here is an artist's impression of the finished monument:


If any of you would like to help see this exciting vision come to fruition, please go to the Project Vernon website here and either make a donation and/or offer your services. The next promotional event is planned for the weekend of 1st/2nd May at Gunwharf Quays. This will coincide with the Sea Cadet Festival 2010 celebrating the 150th anniversary of the formation of the Cadet movement. Even if you don't get involved in running it, make a point of coming to the Project Vernon stand, having a chat, seeing the exhibits and purchasing some of the merchandise or raffle tickets. This is what the stand looked like last July:


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Ladies and Gentlemen,

HMS Vernon's Badge

HMS Vernon seems to have had two ship's badges in its time:

I would like to know when the more familiar second badge superseded the first. I suspect it was in 1961...
Hi Rob,

It was 1962 - here (attached) is the entry from 'Admiralty Badges' (CD ROM) by TP Stopford.

I didn't know this until you contacted me recently to point out there was a war-time one, I shall be amending my site to show the right one.

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Hi Bob.Shayler,I did my electrical & torpedo training at H.M.S.Vernon 1941,but it was Brighton at Roedean girls school we had cabins & a bell to ring for a mistress, when we rang it all we got was a irate C.P.O.we were housed at St. Dunstans (the blind institute ) Doug. birch Ex.-EA
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Taking the message here to heart, I feel that the reductions in the Royal Navy diminishes myself and all those who served alongside me. I'm still in touch with some 60 years on and they serve to remind of what we were and how proud we were to be part of it. I still recall the stentorian voice of CPOGI "Ginger" Young when drilling my class at ST. VINCENT. 'Head up, shoulders back, chest out , stomach in, and dig those heels in. You are fledgling members of the finest fighting force the World has ever seen." Some things you never forget, and and go on to live by.
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The aim of Project Vernon is to erect a monument at Gunwharf Quays to commemorate the minewarfare and diving heritage of HMS Vernon which formerly stood on the site (see Post #44). The involvement of the pre-MW Branch TAS Branch will be explained on an accompanying display as will be all those others involved in mine design, naval bomb & mine disposal, minesweeping, minehunting, suface ship minelaying, submarine minelaying, aircraft minelaying, naval control of shipping, deep diving, experimental diving, ships' diving, clearance diving, X-Craft and Chariot diving, SAR diving, etc. Online donations can be made via the charity's webpage here: The Vernon Mine Warfare And Diving Monument


Artist's impression of the Vernon Monument

1,200 Mile Cycle Marathon

Next Wednesday afternoon (27 July), a team of eight cyclists from the Minewarfare Operational Training Centre at HMS Collingwood is due to arrive at Gunwharf Quays after having cycled the 1,200 miles between each of the towns and villages in England and Wales after which the 13 Hunt Class minehunters have been named. The aim of their epic ride is to raise funds for Project Vernon and the RN & RM Charity (RNRMC) and you can sponsor them via their online charity webpage here: mwcharityriders's fundraising page

Portsea Island Charity Swm

Next Saturday (30 July), a team of serving and ex-serving divers and minewarfare personnel will attempt to swim anti-clockwise around Portsea Island to raise funds for Project Vernon, Cystic Fibrosis Kids of Portsmouth (CFK) and the RN & RM Charity (RNRMC). See coverage in the Portsmouth News here. A Project Vernon stand will be open in Gunwharf Quays to take donations and offer merchandise for sale including prints of this specially commissioned painting of HMS Vernon in its heyday.


Artist John Terry FCSD in his studio with 'Vernon Creek'

Alternatively, you can support the swimmers and their worthy causes by visiting their online charity webpage here: Royal Navy Clearance Divers & Friends Portsea Island Swim 30 July 2011
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Hi everyone,
For those mebers who served there, this is how it looks now. I have take some photos of the remaining original buildings but apart from the Admin block, do not know what they used to be. The site was sold off a number of years ago for development and is now known as Gunwharf Quays, a combination of housing, shops, restaurants, bars and night clubs. The site is dominated by the Spinnaker Tower which has viewing platforms which give a magnificent view accross the whole area including the Solent.
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HI Bob thanks for the pictures of HMS VERNON it sure dont look like it was when I was there
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Bit of light relieve re Vernon.
I was in Vernon December 68 thru to mid 70 as the maintainer of ASUAT 1. My mate one LEM White, Knocker to us was a single LEM with loads of spare money so he bought himself a 4.2 litre Jaguar. When he first arrived at Vernon in his new Jag the gate staff, as he drove thru the gate, saluted him thinking he was an officer. Knocker quick to the front acknowledged the salaute and thought bugger if they realise I'm just a lowly LEM I'm in for an ear bashing so he drove his car down the main drag and parked up then returned to the main gate for his station card.
The unfortunate thing was he had to carry on this pretence for months receiving a kindly saluate every morning from the friendly gate staff.
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As a matter of curiousity when were the MASTUs taken to Vernon.
In the dark ages when taking UC courses ( itwas called ASDICs in those days ) the first part of the course was at Vernon and then we were drafted to HMS Osprey to complete the course. This was of course before the Helicopter days.

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Bob - I assume the MASTUs were moved to Vernon in 1961 when, as I remarked in Post #90, the school at Osprey closed down and all A/S (Anti-Submarine) training was consolidated at Vernon.
ASUAT = Anti-Submarine Universal Attack Teacher
MASTU = Mobile Anti-Submarine Training Unit
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Rob.. If it narrows the date down a bit for you I arrived from Ganges and joined Vernon in January 1960,the place was wall to wall with MASTU's.There was so many Junior Seamen we were billeted across at Stokes Bay in what was known as Vernon 2.

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Hello All,

I'm trying to do some research on my grandfathers role on board various ships and note that he spent from 26/2/1938 - 28/9/1938 at HMS Vernon.

I know he was a torpedoman, but I don't really know what a torpedoman would actually do day to day. From what I can gather maintenance would have been a large part of his day and I believe electrical work would have been part of that.

Does anyone know of a book, website, or a thread in this forum that I haven't discovered yet which would outline what he would do?

Also, his next posting was curious, he was placed on the HMS Despatch from 29/9/1938 to 26/10/1938. My research on Despatch has her being placed as a training ship from late 1938. After a spell at HMS Victory from 27/10/1938 to 2/2/1939 he was posted aboard the HMS Ramillies.

My understanding of HMS Ramillies is that she had her final 2 torpedo tubes removed before 1938. So what would a torpedoman do on a ship without torpedos?

Sorry for all the questions.....

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