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Old 20-03-2017, 10:39
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Agreed, total fluff and written with no appreciation of the capability of the F 35B.
I had a chuckle over the perceived lack of range which conveniently forgets that the airfield happens to move to where they are needed.
Amongst other misconceptions.
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Old 20-03-2017, 12:20
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Agreed, total fluff and written with no appreciation of the capability of the F 35B.
I had a chuckle over the perceived lack of range which conveniently forgets that the airfield happens to move to where they are needed.
Amongst other misconceptions.
Well I never said it was either well written, accurate or even possibly believable. I did though say you would enjoy it.
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Old 20-03-2017, 21:44
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Princess Royal opens new carrier jetty :-

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/h...craft-carriers
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Old 20-03-2017, 21:44
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Princess Royal names new jetty for Navy’s giant aircraft carriers

Her Royal Highness The Princess Royal has today officially named the jetty which will house the Royal Navy’s giant new aircraft carriers in Portsmouth.
The Princess unveiled a plaque at Portsmouth Naval Base this afternoon (Monday 20 March 2017) officially naming the vast berth as The Princess Royal Jetty.


Continues at - http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and...ss-royal-jetty
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Old 21-03-2017, 08:24
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I must confess I am looking forward to seeing pictures of the new carrier with hopefully a Daring class as escort along with a few F-35's flying alongside her.

I might not be a fan of the concept but only a fool would not recognise the technology that has gone into these state of the art weapons of war.
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Old 21-03-2017, 11:51
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NEW NAVIGATION LIGHTS

A good photo showing them at Portsmouth.
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Old 22-03-2017, 08:07
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A small VID on the flight deck coating, I don't think its been on here before :-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFOz9NFgKwQ
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Old 22-03-2017, 11:06
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POWERFUL new fenders built to keep Britain’s next generation of aircraft carriers safe while docked have been put through their paces in Portsmouth.

Full article - http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/our-regi...outh-1-7876184
Also - https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/0...ty_portsmouth/
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Old 22-03-2017, 13:09
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Parliamentary written answers 22nd March :-

Asked by Lord West of Spithead
Asked on: 14 March 2017
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To ask Her Majesty’s Government what consideration they have given to purchasing V-22 Ospreys to enable air-to-air refuelling of F35B aircraft at the start and end of sorties.
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Answered by: Earl Howe
Answered on: 21 March 2017

The V-22 Osprey is not part of the resourced plan to deliver the UK Carrier Strike capability. However, the Ministry of Defence will continue to explore a variety of options to augment the capabilities of the Queen Elizabeth Class carriers in future.
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Old 22-03-2017, 15:08
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Parliamentary written answers 22nd March :-

Asked by Lord West of Spithead
Asked on: 14 March 2017
Ministry of Defence
Military Aircraft: Procurement
HL6055
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what consideration they have given to purchasing V-22 Ospreys to enable air-to-air refuelling of F35B aircraft at the start and end of sorties.
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Answered by: Earl Howe
Answered on: 21 March 2017

The V-22 Osprey is not part of the resourced plan to deliver the UK Carrier Strike capability. However, the Ministry of Defence will continue to explore a variety of options to augment the capabilities of the Queen Elizabeth Class carriers in future.
Good find.

I believe the RN V-22 will be inevitable especially as the USN COD and USMC tanking capability comes to fruition. This tanking capability will make Strike Group even more formidable.
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Old 22-03-2017, 18:35
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I have no doubt whatsoever that the UK will buy the Osprey for use with the RAF and RN. It's merely a case of when, and that will be dependent on funding.
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Old 22-03-2017, 18:37
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How long will they keep the Osprey production lines going?
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Old 22-03-2017, 19:06
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I believe with current Osprey order projections somewhere between 2021 and 2024 before the line is to be shuttered.
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Old 22-03-2017, 19:52
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Will our Government get their arse into gear before that though... Seems such a good idea for our carriers.
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Old 22-03-2017, 21:16
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CEC is not just another Link. The operative word is "Engagement" and for a country with limited AD assets or for one which considers working with the USN as a key function the omission of the capability is incomprehensible.
Modern forces are networked, not only between single services but also across services so the constant interservice rivalry often expressed on this forum seems at odds with current CONOPS in modern western navies. I only hope the reality is different.
Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC) is the network high standard, ignore it and degrade the contribution that ships such as the T45s can make.
The Multifunction Advanced Data Link (MADL) I pointed to allows engagement too.

Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC) looks great in principle, and when it first came out I was all for it. But when I learned more I was less convinced. I don't think I was alone.

Plus, CEC was the high standard, but will be obsolete before long. Things like MADL will replace it
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Old 22-03-2017, 21:53
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Will our Government get their arse into gear before that though... Seems such a good idea for our carriers.
Since when have any of our governments been swayed by good ideas. If they can persuade the USMC to bring a couple of MV-22's along with their F35B's, they will be happy to welcome them with open arms.

If they prove to be an asset as is hoped, then the RN/RAF will need all their powers of persuasion to drag the MOD/Treasury kicking and screaming to release their purse strings.
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Old 24-03-2017, 10:25
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Parliamentary written answers 23d March 2017 :-

Asked by Steven Paterson
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Asked on: 15 March 2017
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To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what recent assessment has been carried out on the resilience of computer systems on-board the HMS Queen Elizabeth.
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Answered by: Harriett Baldwin
Answered on: 23 March 2017

Testing of the computer systems used on the Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carriers has been undertaken both on-board, as well as at a dedicated shore-based mission system integration facility.

HMS Queen Elizabeth is currently in her test and integration phase to demonstrate the readiness of her on-board systems to begin sea trials this summer.
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Old 27-03-2017, 10:08
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'Save the Royal Navy' Infographic timeline for carrier strike :-

http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/time...arrier-strike/
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Old 27-03-2017, 17:57
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'Save the Royal Navy' Infographic timeline for carrier strike :-

http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/time...arrier-strike/
Makes pretty depressing reading doesn't it! You cannot help but note how many false promises have been made (speeding up acquisition of F35B to ensure 24 available by first deployment etc), and how timeliness are continually being put back as a matter of course. Being the owner of the two largest and most expensive helicopter carriers the world has ever seen is nothing to be proud of! Indeed, you really have to ask what point there is in even commissioning POW for a few years yet? But of course she hasn't been finished or commissioned yet....... Too many promises have been made, followed by cuts to the funding intended to back them up, I honestly believe that the future of these ships is far from clear.
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Old 27-03-2017, 19:37
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Yes these ships have a great future behind them.
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Old 27-03-2017, 21:51
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For all you glass half empty folk,here's something else to brighten up your day. More paint problems :-

http://forces.net/news/paint-problem...rcraft-carrier
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Old 27-03-2017, 22:01
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O'h and here's another story to keep you awake at night, from the ever reliable 'Times'. Perhaps we should just leave them tied up alongside. If you need confirmation of the absolute garbage printed by the UK media, this is one excerpt from the article.

"According to the Times newspaper the missile will be too fast for current air-defence systems to cope with, despite the Royal Navy's new carriers being fitted with state-of-the-art anti-air defensive systems."

Perhaps the Times will let us in on this secret, which no one else seems to know about.

http://forces.net/news/navy/new-brit...ussian-missile
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Old 28-03-2017, 05:07
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Ongoing problems with first in class are to be expected, and although disappointing they have to be accepted and ironed out. The Russians and Chinese have been working on anti carrier missiles for many years - nothing new there! And as we're well aware the QEs only air defence system capable of engaging a missile is Phalanx. A lot of 'big ships' rely on their escorts, although some do actually have a point defence missile system installed - but it all comes back to cost. We're struggling with costs, and will continue to do so for sometime.
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Old 28-03-2017, 07:52
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A lot of written questions and answers in Parliament yesterday, in regards to the carriers.
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Old 28-03-2017, 13:33
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Faulty Paint!
Reminds me of the time we had the fo'c'sle deck painted, after three days it had still not dried.

Going back to basics, they read the instructions on the can only to realise that they had not added the hardener.

Possibly the painter in Rosyth had not read the instructions.
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