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Old 07-05-2014, 18:31
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Browsing through the Naval VC’s in this thread I was surprised that Rear Admiral Anthony (Gamp) Miers was not in the list. A colourful and sometimes volatile officer who won his VC when captain of the submarine Torbay in the Med WW2.
Such was his character that when asked to Buckingham Palace for the presentation of the medal he insisted that his crew also attended the ceremony, not normal practice but he got his way and 27 of his crew where there some of whom also received other medals from George V.
Viewing his career on the internet is interesting, apparently earlier in his career he was Court Martialled for thumping one of his Stokers, an offence that he reported himself for, but that didn’t stop his further advancement.
After my first 12 weeks or so at Raleigh after joining, myself and other classmates were sent to Theseus, one of the training squadron for accelerated advancement training. As usual we had to put on our Number Ones for the Captain to inspect and the Captain at that time was Miers. We were told by our DO under no circumstance should we stare at his VC.
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Old 08-05-2014, 08:59
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A picture of Captain Miers & his grave in Tomnahurich Cemetery, Inverness, Scotland.

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Old 13-05-2014, 11:35
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he was generally known in his sea-going time as "Crap" Miers but i have no knowledge as to why?
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Old 25-05-2014, 18:49
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Here's a link to his page on the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography:

http://www.oxforddnb.com/templates/a...id=31444&back=

and a copy of the relevant section:

"Miers joined the Submarine Service in April 1929 where he made his mark as totally loyal, outstandingly keen, fearless, hot-tempered, and incautiously outspoken. A prescient training officer wrote that he would either be awarded the VC or a court martial: in the event he got both, the latter in 1933 for self-confessedly striking a rating. Miers, who came to be known as Gamp on the lower deck and Crap by officers for reasons that have never been convincingly explained, was fiercely competitive at sea, ashore, and on the playing field. He was a good athlete, a tennis and squash player, and a fine rugby footballer. His vigorous single-minded aim at all times was to win. He was not a good loser, but his sheer determination to beat the opposition was to overcome all obstacles in war. The men who served him had complete confidence in him and forgave his impetuous outbursts; but, undeniably, those who sought a calmer life avoided his company. Nobody could be indifferent to his presence. He was whole-heartedly supportive to subordinates, provided they were efficient and stood up to him, albeit at some risk of fisticuffs."

So, the mystery endures ..... !
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Old 28-05-2014, 10:03
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I believe that there is a book called Gamp VC , telling his story. I have a copy of it at home , but am hospitalised at the moment so don't have access, but I believe it explains the reasons for the nicknames. Tim.
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Old 28-05-2014, 18:34
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I believe that there is a book called Gamp VC , telling his story. I have a copy of it at home , but am hospitalised at the moment so don't have access, but I believe it explains the reasons for the nicknames. Tim.
Yup!

"Gamp VC: The Wartime Story of Maverick Submarine Commander Anthony Miers"

Author: Brian Izzard
Publisher: Haynes Publishing (Feb. 15 2010)
ISBN-13: 978-1844257256

Get well and get home soon Tim.
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Old 01-06-2014, 07:19
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BONZO / ALL. Here is the Submarine Service of `Gamp / Crap Miers ;

MIERS A.C.C. VC.,KBE.,CB.,DSO*. REAR ADM. 24. 4.29.
L.54 I/C. 8. 8.36. DOLPHIN.
GENERAL SERVICE. 1.10.37. IRON DUKE.
STAFF COURSE. 11. 1.38. PRESIDENT.
S.O.(O)2. 2. 1.39. NELSON.
C.O.R.Q.C. DOLPHIN.
TORBAY I/C. 12.11.40. DOLPHIN.
TORBAY I/C. 14. 4.41. FORTH.
TORBAY I/C. 20. 2.41. TITANIA.
TORBAY I/C. 1. 4.41. MEDWAY.
DOLPHIN. 8.10.42.
PRESIDENT. 16.11.42.
SAKER. 18.11.42.
MAIDSTONE. 21. 5.44. ADDITIONAL.
MAIDSTONE. 19. 7.44. CDR(S)8.
MAIDSTONE. 19. 4.45. B.N.L.O.
DOLPHIN. 1. 3.46. PASSAGE.
DOLPHIN. 8. 4.46. F.S.L. & E.O.W.
VERNON. 11. 7.46. ADDL.
VERNON. D.T.B.R. S.O.T.C.
DAEDALUS. 24.11.47.
DAEDALUS. 31.12.47.
DAEDALUS. 2.12.47.
DAEDALUS. 19.12.47.
BLACKCAP. 25. 2.50.
VICTORY. 1. 3.50.
VICTORY. 2. 3.50.
FORTH. 1. 7.50.
FORTH. 26. 7.50.
FORTH. 12. 2.51.
PRESIDENT. 23. 6.52.
GREENWICH. 25. 6.52.
PHOENIX. 15.11.54.
EXCELLENT. 17.11.54.
VERNON. 18.11.54.
DRYAD. 29.11.54.
MERCURY. 1.12.54.
VICTORY. 10.12.54.
VICTORY. 20.12.54.
VICTORY. D.T.B.R.
PROMOTED REAR ADMIRAL. 7. 1.56.
PRESIDENT. 18. 1.56.
F.O. MID EAST. 9. 2.56.
PRESIDENT. 20. 2.56.
RETIRED LIST. 7. 7.59.
S/LIEUT. 1. 1.28.
LIEUT. 1. 1.30.
LT CDR. 1. 1.38.

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Old 02-11-2017, 17:18
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hi,

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His vigorous single-minded aim at all times was to win. He was not a good loser, but his sheer determination to beat the opposition was to overcome all obstacles in war.
There can be no doubt that his decoration for the attack in Corfu harbour was deserved, but IMO, Miers' colourful career is tarnished by the actions bordering on or being war crimes in July, 1941, as CO of Torbay.

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hi,

There can be no doubt that his decoration for the attack in Corfu harbour was deserved, but IMO, Miers' colourful career is tarnished by the actions bordering on or being war crimes in July, 1941, as CO of Torbay.

greetings, Urs
To quote Dan Brown, author of the "Da Vinci Code" ... "History is always written by the winners. When two cultures clash, the loser is obliterated, and the winner writes the history books-books which glorify their own cause and disparage the conquered foe."

Had the Allies lost the war, Miers would probably have been tried for war crimes and have suffered the same fate as Kapitänleutnant Heinz-Wilhelm Eck of U 852.
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good morning,

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Had the Allies lost the war,
However bitter the outcome for many people in Germany ... I'm glad they didn't.

From a naval historian's point of view, in comparison to Miers and Eck, what Herbert in 1916 and Patzig in 1918 did was much worse, and they both got away.

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