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Old 04-12-2017, 20:07
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Default Service Record: William Thomas Gillham - Torpedoman

Hi all

I was wondering if anyone can help. I have a copy of my Grandfathers service records and for the life of me I can't understand some of it (and Im a matelot)

I think mainly it is the writing I can't understand and also his trade, I know he joined Ganges as a boy but after that I'm unsure. I think he may of trained along the lines of a Torpedo Gunnner (or something like that) because of his service at Defiance.

If anyone can make sense of it all that would be great. He was invalided out of service after returning home straight after the landings in Italy (OP Husky)

Please see attached.

Yours Aye

Craig
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Old 04-12-2017, 22:04
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Default Re: Service Record: William Thomas Gillham - Torpedoman

His next of kin was awarded 39-45 star, Atlantic Italy stars and war medal

He served first on hms punjabi a tribal class destroyer

then hms prince Leopold a landing ship

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Old 04-12-2017, 22:32
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Default Re: Service Record: William Thomas Gillham - Torpedoman

Hello Craig and a very warm welcome to the Forums. If you are having problems uploading images please ensure they are within the file sizes specified by the site ( ie jpegs max 1.91Mb each). If you continue to have a problem you are welcome to send me a Private Message and I will sort the problem for you.

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Old 04-12-2017, 23:12
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Hello Craig, from the images that you have posted I have transcribed the record as follows, plus added a few links to the ships he served on.

William Thomas Gillham Royal Navy Service Record
Date of Birth: March 1920?

Place of birth:
Occupation: Schoolboy
Service Number: JX 152222
BasePort: Assumed to be Devonport

Date and period of Continuous Service Engagement:

Volunteered on 2nd March 1937 for 12 years service from 2nd March 1938

Ship/Rating/Date

Ganges – Boy 2nd Class – from 2nd March 1937 until 16th October 1937 then promoted
Ganges – Boy 1st Class – from 17th October 1937 until 9th December 1937
Drake – Boy 1st Class – from 10th December 1937 until 6th January 1938
Cornwall – Boy 1st Class – from 7th January 1938 until 21st April 1938
Rodney – Boy 1st Class – from 22nd April 1938 until 1st September 1938 then promoted
Rodney – Ordinary Seaman – from 2nd September 1938 until 13th January 1939
Drake I – Ordinary Seaman – from 14th January 1939 until 27th January 1939
Cornwall – Ordinary Seaman – from 28th January 1939 until 15th March 1939
Drake II (Punjabi) – Ordinary Seaman – from 16th March 1939 until 2nd December 1939 then promoted
Drake II (Punjabi) – Able Seaman – from 3rd December 1939 until 12th January 1940
Defiance – Able Seaman – from 13th January 1939 until 13th February 1941
Drake (Prince Leopold) – Able Seaman – from 14th February 1941 until 6th March 1941
Prince Leopold – Able Seaman – from 7th March 1941 until 11th September 1941 then promoted
Prince Leopold – Acting Leading Seaman – from 12th September 1941 until 11th September 1942 then promoted
Prince Leopold – Leading Seaman – from 12th September 1942 until 24th December 1942
Sailors Home – Leading Seaman – from 25th December 1942 until 26th December 1942
Prince Leopold – Leading Seaman – from 27th December 1942 until 3rd February 1943
Escort Duty – Leading Seaman – from 4th February 1943 until 5th February 1943
Prince Leopold – Leading Seaman – from 6th February 1943 until 20th August 1943
Drake – Leading Seaman – from 21st August 1943 until 21st November 1943 then invalided Permanently Unfit for Naval Service (PUNS)




Good Conduct Badges (worn as a stripe on the left arm, below any rank badge):
Not recorded


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Old 05-12-2017, 06:27
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Default Re: Service Record: William Thomas Gillham - Torpedoman

Hi thanks for clearing that up? My questions are wether he was actually a torpedo man? this would be unusual for a guy serving on a LSI?

There are various writings on his documentation which I can't decipher.

Would his trade change upon not being a schoolboy?
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Old 05-12-2017, 16:06
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Hello Craig,
I was reading between the lines when I assumed he was a Torpedoman, due to the length of time served at Defiance. Torpedomen were the fore runners to the electrical branch so he wasn't necessarily working on torpedoes. Your images do not show the full page, ie date of birth, place of birth, etc. His occupation as Schoolboy indicates that he joined the Royal Navy from school and he had no previous occupation. I presume he would have been 15 when he joined.

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Old 05-12-2017, 16:43
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Hi yes, he did join aged 15 1/2. He was born in September 1920

I only photographed the parts i didn't understand or needed further explaining. there are parts on there that I can't make out. From what I gathered from his service number break down he was a seaman or Communicator, but then Defiance threw me off track

http://http://www.godfreydykes.info/...L%20NUMBERS%20[RATINGS].htm[/url]
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Default Re: Service Record: William Thomas Gillham - Torpedoman

Upto 1941 he had no non-substantive rank (eg torpedoman)

Don’t forget in wartime training establishment useages were changed

Eg Ganges was a boys training depot yet in ww2 was used as a mans depot

I believe defiance was also used as a/s training school as well as other uses, may have been used as a landing ship training school

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