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Old 29-10-2009, 13:47
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A selection of Polish Navy ships from my collection.
Pre-war destroyers and torpedo boats.

BURZA and WICHER were built in France. The former joined RN in September 1939, later - since 1960 - became a floating museum in Gdynia until 1975. The latter was sunky by German aircraft on 3.09.1939.
BLYSKAWICA and GROM are well known on this Forum

KASZUB and MAZUR were WW1 German torpedo boats acquired after WW1 by Poland. KASZUB was lost in 1925 in accidental explosion, while MAZUR was rebuilt in 1930s as artillery training ship and was lost only on 1.09.1939 during German air attack on Gdynia.

KRAKOWIAK, KUJAWIAK, PODHALANIN and SLAZAK were ex German torpedo boats, too. Just before WW2 they were withdrawn from service.

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Old 29-10-2009, 14:24
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Submarines and mine warfare vessels.

WILK, RYS and ZBIK were French-built submarine minelayers. WILK managed to escape Baltic in September 1939 and then operated from UK. In 1950s she came back to Poland and was BU. RYS and ZBIK were interned in Sweden in 1939 and were returned to Poland in 1945. Both were BU in late 1950s.

ORZEL and SEP were built in Netherlands. The first is known for a daring escape from Tallin and - later - from Baltic. She was lost in May-June 1940. The SEP was interned in Sweden, but after coming back to Poland in 1945 she served Polish Navy until late 1960s.

GRYF was a modern training built in France. During the war she was to lay mines, but was damaged on 1.09.1939 in - what I believe - to be a first ever battle between a strong assembly of aircraft and a group of warships.

RYBITWA was a former FM-class German minesweeper bought for Polish Navy in 1920 together with sisters CZAJKA, JASKOLKA and MEWA. All were withdrawn in early 1930s.

Minesweeper JASKOLKA (second of that name) was built in Poland in first half of 1930s together with three sisters; they were named after the FM boats. In 1939 two more joined them - CZAPLA and ZURAW. CZAPLA and JASKOLKA were lost in September 1939 campaign (bombed by Germans), while remaining four were taken over by Germans as auxilliary craft. All returned to Poland in 1946 and served with Polish Navy as minesweepers nad patrol boats until late 1960s, except ZURAW. She became a survey ship in 1940s and was withdrawn only in 1970s.

Gunboats GENERAL HALLER and KOMENDANT PILSUDSKI were bought in Finland in 1920. Both were laid down by Russian Navy, but after bolshevik revolution were taken over by the Fins. Other two served with Finnish Navy. Of the Polish pair the HALLER was destroyed by German bombs in September 1939, while PILSUDSKI was taken over by Germans, only to be sunk in Nantes during Allied air attack in 1944. Until arrival of WICHER those two gunboats were largest ships of Polish Navy.

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Old 29-10-2009, 14:38
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Naval auxilliaries.

Survey ship POMORZANIN - bought in April 1920 - was the first seagoing ship of Polish Navy. In early 1930s she was sold into private hands and was used as a tug until BU in early 1950s.

Naval transports WILJA and WARTA were bought in France to ship military equipment sold to Poland in 1920s. The latter was sold in mid-1930s to Italy, then sailed under Hungarian colours as TURUL. During WW2 she was sometimes seen in Atlantic convoys, though under Panamian flag. The WILJA became a training ship and in 1939 arrived in Casablanca. In 1940 she was transferred to Polish Merchant Navy as MODLIN and in 1944 she was scuttled off Normandy coast as part of Gooseberry.

Training ship ISKRA was bought in 1920 in UK. During WW2 she was used in Gibraltar as MTB and/or submarine depot PIGMY and returned to Poland in 1948. She was used to train officers until mid 1970s.

Stationary training ship BALTYK was the former Frech cruiser D'ENTRCASTEAUX bought by Polish Navy in late 1920s. She was moored in Gdynia harbour. Taken over by Germans in 1939, she was BU in 1942, reportedly.
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Old 29-10-2009, 18:16
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Thanks for showing us these Marek - much appreciated.

Any more like that will always be welcome!
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Old 31-10-2009, 17:11
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Marek

Agree with Terry's comments, well done and keep them coming if you have any more

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Old 31-10-2009, 23:44
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Any more like that will always be welcome!
Here we go, then.

Wartime navy - destroyers.

Two views of BLYSKAWICA in late 1942, possibly getting ready for Operation "Torch".
BURZA in late 1943 as an ocean escort, in "Reversed" WA camouflage scheme.
GARLAND after the war in final configuration as ocean escort.
PIORUN in 1944, during Normandy landing, with pennant number scraped out by the censor.
ORKAN bringing the body of Polish PM gen. Sikorski to Plymouth. Poor photo, but this ship was lost too soon and her photographs are rare.
KRAKOWIAK - a Hunt II class, seen after the war.
SLAZAK - also a Hunt II class, seen probably in 1942.
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Old 31-10-2009, 23:55
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Wartime submarines and other.

CONRAD - D class cruiser after the war, probably in mid-1945.
DRAGON - first operational cruiser of Polish Navy, here just before D-Day.
OURAGAN - taken over by RN after French surrender and later manned by Polish Navy. Poor photo, but the only one known with Polish ensign.
ORZEL - here already in UK.
JASTRZAB - former US submarine transferred to Polish Navy and sunk in 1942 by Allied craft.
SOKOL - arriving in UK after second Mediterrranean campaign, in 1944.
DZIK - probably in 1943.
ZBIK - in October 1945, returning from Sweden where she was interned since 1939.
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Old 01-11-2009, 00:11
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... and the rest.

S-1 - one of a pair of MTBs ordered pre-war by Polish Navy at J. S. White and completed in 1940 as MGB.
S-2 - a BPB boat; together with sistership S-3 she was transferred to Poland in exchange for the sister of S-1.
S-7 - a White-built MTB manned by Polish Navy. There were 5 boats of that class, named S-5 to S-10. Polish MTBs/MGBs carried either Polish numbers (S-1 to S-10) on their sides or British ones (eg. "44" for MGB-44 or "426" for MTB-426)
MEDOC - former French cargo ship, commissioned for the war as auxilliary patrol and taken over in 1940 by RN together with sister POMEROL. Similar to OURAGAN both patrols were manned by Polish Navy for a short time.
Polish ships in Harwich in 1946. The photo is taken from the PIORUN with bows of two HUNTS (KRAKOWIAK and SLAZAK) on both sides. The big one is BURZA with submarine WILK along port side and submarines DZIK and SOKOŁ further out. On the starboard are two RN corvettes used to supply steam.
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Some more brilliant pictures Marek - thanks very much!!
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Well, they are noy best quality. Unfortunately wartime photos of Polish ships are very scarce here in Poland. Most of Polish personnell choose not to return to Poland and therefore private collections are usually out of reach.
Even worse is with Polish merchant ships - I have only a few shots of those ships from between 1939 and 1945.
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Nevertheless to those of us interested in warships from other countries they are most welcome my friend!
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thanks very much for those will contact you personally in a few days
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Dear Marek,
I have a book called "Polska Marynarka Wojenna" which seems to be published in 1947, or at least a reprint thereof; inside it is inscribed;-
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signed by Captain Wladyslaw K. Nadratowski LLM, CPR, PN
The book is full of wartime pictures altho all of the text is in Polish. Unfortunately its an awkward size for a modern A4 scanner but I wil do my best to post as many pics as possible safe in the knowledge that our dear friends in the PN will not complain! The book is a pictorial record of 1939 to 1945.
give me a day or two and I'll get them scanned for you, the pics are superb but sadly the printing is rather low quality in representation, but then 1947 was not an easy time for Poland (or the rest of us, i was born that year)
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Old 02-11-2009, 15:47
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I have a book called "Polska Marynarka Wojenna" which seems to be published in 1947 ...
Dear Tim,
I know that book very well. It was published in Rome by the Society of Polish Navy Officers and in 1950s and 1960s was main source of Polish wartime photos that appeared here in Poland. I have one too.
Nevertheless thank you for your kind offer to scan it - fortunately this trouble you can be spared. If however you happen to see somewher a private photoalbum belonging to former Polish sailor I would be very glad to hear about it.
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with pleasure!
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I had a private message from Mateusz, user name RAMM, who is from Poland. He is looking for some photos of polish ships, particularly ORP Grom/ Błyskawica (Thunder Lighting).
His English is not good but he would appreciate any photos of Polish ships.

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Old 08-12-2009, 22:25
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I had a private message from Mateusz, user name RAMM, who is from Poland. He is looking for some photos of polish ships, particularly ORP Grom/ Błyskawica (Thunder Lighting).
His English is not good but he would appreciate any photos of Polish ships.

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Me too as well! Especially those of BLYSKAWICA as rearmed with 4" guns.
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Me too as well! Especially those of BLYSKAWICA as rearmed with 4" guns.
Hi Marek my father was a gunner on the destroyer ORP Garland and also quite handy with a camera sadly many of his photographs and all the negatives were lost through time but fortunately I managed to salvage quite a few from his old album. About 8 years ago I forwarded copies of these to the polish Navy Museum in Gdynia. I will scan some and post them soon
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Very interesting pics...thanks a lot! Always very nice to see shots like this. DFO
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Hi Marek my father was a gunner on the destroyer ORP Garland and also quite handy with a camera sadly many of his photographs and all the negatives were lost through time but fortunately I managed to salvage quite a few from his old album. About 8 years ago I forwarded copies of these to the polish Navy Museum in Gdynia. I will scan some and post them soon
Welcome to the forum Alek.

Please do scan in those photographs from your fathers old album.

Wwould love to see them very much.

If possible please scan them as large as possible.
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Old 23-12-2009, 19:31
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Merry Chrismas everyone and thanks for allowing me to join your forum. I'm responding to a request posted by Marek T. He was looking for photographs and as he rightly suspects I have my late father's (Aleksander Niezynski gunner on ORP Garland) album corrosponding to the period 1941 to post war.
I will try to submit some images for marek and others who are interested.
Kind regards to all
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Alek - I have moved these photographs to their rightful place in this thread!

Many thanks for taking the time to post them here for us.
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Some more photographs from my dad's album, incidently over the years he posted many to friends abroad and some went to museums in Poland Bialystok and the naval museum in Gdynia I have included most of the others. If anyone is particulary interested I will scan them in at a higher dpi but right now Chrismas eve duties beckon
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I personally would like to see any of the pictures showing warship[s] at a decent resolution. Some of the best ones are very small.
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Needless to say PC's are not exactly my forty but I have tried to raise the dpi to it's maximum on these particular photographs
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