World Naval Ships Forums  
CURRENT SPECIAL OFFERS ON OUR HUGE SELECTION OF ART PRINTS!

Go Back   World Naval Ships Forums > Shore Leave > Shore Leave
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Shore Leave Off topic discussion and general chat.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 18-03-2012, 20:30
lodesman's Avatar
lodesman lodesman is offline
Sub-Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Ramsgate, Kent.
Posts: 128
Default Gunnery Instructors Badge

Please can anyone settle an 'argument' for me please? I've been told that the current Sea Cadet Corps Drill Instructors badge (the same as a gunnery instructors) has crossed grenades on it! I'm sure they are crossed guns, & have looked them up on the web to confirm that they are, but a SCC L/T CMDR is trying to tell me they are grenades!?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 18-03-2012, 20:52
ap1 ap1 is offline
Vice-Admiral
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Lancashire; England.
Posts: 1,815
Default Re: Gunnery Instructors Badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by lodesman View Post
Please can anyone settle an 'argument' for me please? I've been told that the current Sea Cadet Corps Drill Instructors badge (the same as a gunnery instructors) has crossed grenades on it! I'm sure they are crossed guns, & have looked them up on the web to confirm that they are, but a SCC L/T CMDR is trying to tell me they are grenades!?
He's either:

1) taking the P...

2) Thick,

or 3) should go to Specsavers!
__________________
Thanks;

Andy.

(A proper Old Stoker.)

OLD SHIPS: VANGUARD, CHAPLET, VIGILANT, ROEBUCK, PALLISER (x2), DIANA, TIGER, CENTAUR, EAGLE, BELFAST,
GANGES, RALEIGH, COCHRANE, SULTAN, TERROR, INSKIP, ROYAL ARTHUR, VICTORY, AMPHIBIOUS TRAINING UNIT, ROYAL MARINES. (Poole.)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 19-03-2012, 10:04
Derek Dicker's Avatar
Derek Dicker Derek Dicker is offline
Vice Commodore
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Exeter Devon
Posts: 681
Default Re: Gunnery Instructors Badge

Think the same, I was a qualified drill instructor with the SCC at Teignmouth unit some years ago.


Derek (bunts)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 19-03-2012, 14:01
oldsalt's Avatar
oldsalt oldsalt is offline
Vice-Admiral
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Plymouth
Posts: 1,966
Default Re: Gunnery Instructors Badge

Must admit GI's badges showed cross gun barrels ,each barrel was of two different diameters, I suppose if your imagination runs wild the barrels do look a little like the German potato masher grenade. Never having seen the Cadet force badge I am just guessing.
__________________
Keith
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 19-03-2012, 14:14
ap1 ap1 is offline
Vice-Admiral
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Lancashire; England.
Posts: 1,815
Default Re: Gunnery Instructors Badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by oldsalt View Post
Must admit GI's badges showed cross gun barrels ,each barrel was of two different diameters, I suppose if your imagination runs wild the barrels do look a little like the German potato masher grenade. Never having seen the Cadet force badge I am just guessing.
Here's the real thing.

There is a difference in the way some of the barrels are laid. Left over right, and right over left! Don't know why.

Maybe its the 'GI' way. Going through the seven badges in sequence, it's: right, left, right, left, right, left, right!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg badges.jpg (355.7 KB, 33 views)
__________________
Thanks;

Andy.

(A proper Old Stoker.)

OLD SHIPS: VANGUARD, CHAPLET, VIGILANT, ROEBUCK, PALLISER (x2), DIANA, TIGER, CENTAUR, EAGLE, BELFAST,
GANGES, RALEIGH, COCHRANE, SULTAN, TERROR, INSKIP, ROYAL ARTHUR, VICTORY, AMPHIBIOUS TRAINING UNIT, ROYAL MARINES. (Poole.)

Last edited by ap1 : 19-03-2012 at 14:27.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 19-03-2012, 14:40
harry.gibbon's Avatar
harry.gibbon harry.gibbon is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Merseyside
Posts: 6,751
Default Re: Gunnery Instructors Badge

SEA CADET
UNIFORM
REGULATIONS
APPENDIX 2 TO SEA CADET REGULATIONS (ASCR 2)
May 2011 Edition


SCC Sea Cadet drill badge is in this PDF

(scroll down nearly half way)

Little h
__________________

GFXU - HMS Falmouth in Falmouth Bay
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 19-03-2012, 19:13
eskimosailor's Avatar
eskimosailor eskimosailor is offline
Rear-Admiral
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Gosport, Hants
Posts: 1,149
Default Re: Gunnery Instructors Badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by harry.gibbon View Post
SEA CADET
UNIFORM
REGULATIONS
APPENDIX 2 TO SEA CADET REGULATIONS (ASCR 2)
May 2011 Edition


SCC Sea Cadet drill badge is in this PDF

(scroll down nearly half way)

Little h
Well, they look like guns to me. A bit thin in that illustration, but nevertheless guns!
Steve
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 19-03-2012, 22:06
johnny07 johnny07 is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: With wife Ann in Banchory, Aberdeenshire.
Posts: 2,713
Default Re: Gunnery Instructors Badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by ap1 View Post
Here's the real thing.

There is a difference in the way some of the barrels are laid. Left over right, and right over left! Don't know why.

Maybe its the 'GI' way. Going through the seven badges in sequence, it's: right, left, right, left, right, left, right!
And here is the real thing on a real Chief G.I.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg img209.jpg (194.9 KB, 35 views)
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 20-03-2012, 07:28
lodesman's Avatar
lodesman lodesman is offline
Sub-Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Ramsgate, Kent.
Posts: 128
Default Re: Gunnery Instructors Badge

Thanks everyone for confirming what i thought was correct! Going to see said LT/CMDR (scc) at a Drill Competition at HMS Sultan at the end of March, should be an interesting conversation!!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 20-03-2012, 15:22
Mitch Hinde Mitch Hinde is offline
Vice-Admiral
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Currently living in Sunbury on Thames.
Posts: 1,821
Default Re: Gunnery Instructors Badge

Hi All

For what it's worth, I've never seen trunnions on a hand grenade before.

Mitch Hinde
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 20-03-2012, 17:50
johnny07 johnny07 is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: With wife Ann in Banchory, Aberdeenshire.
Posts: 2,713
Default Re: Gunnery Instructors Badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnny07 View Post
And here is the real thing on a real Chief G.I.
That's a bar on his long service and good conduct medal.
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply



Ship Search by Name : Advanced Search
Random Timeline Entry : 2nd January 1940 : HMS Griffin : Picked up survivors from Tanker British Councillor

NAVAL PRINTS

Click above to see our naval art portal - Eight random half price items are displayed to the right.

Some Current Half Price Offers

 Having played a vital part in the battle for the Mediterranean for over two years, HMS Ark Royal finally succumbed to a U-Boats torpedo in November 1941. She is shown here with a pair of Swordfish Mk1s of 821 Sqn ranged on the deck, passing the cruiser HMS Sheffield off the Mole, Gibraltar, earlier that same year.

HMS Ark Royal and HMS Sheffield off the Mole, Gibraltar by Ivan Berryman (Y)
Half Price! - £70.00
DHM810.  The Queen Elizabeth 2 Leaving New York by Robert Barbour.

The Queen Elizabeth 2 Leaving New York by Robert Barbour.
Half Price! - £35.00
 HMS Tiger is shown under full steam.

Battle of the Dogger Bank 1915 by Randall Wilson.
Half Price! - £42.50
 HMS Intrepid embarks some of her landing craft during the Falklands conflict of 1982.
HMS Intrepid by Ivan Berryman
Half Price! - £15.00

 Having departed the Namsen Fjord in Norway, on a course home to England across the North Sea, HMS Arab was intercepted by a Heinkel He.115 and ordered to sail due east or be attacked.  His orders ignored, the German pilot began a series of passes over the trawler, raking the small vessel with continuous fire from both of its guns.  The gallant crew of the Arab returned fire with all Lewis and Oerlikon guns blazing, the Heinkel being mortally wounded as it made a low pass across the bow of Arab, finally plunging into the sea some two miles astern of the trawler who continued, without further incident, to her destination at Scapa.

Tribute to the Royal Navy Trawler Crews - HMS Arab by Ivan Berryman. (P)
Half Price! - £750.00
 HMS Broadsword and the aircraft carrier Hermes battle their way through the storm on their way to the Battle for the Falklands.

Storm Force to the Falklands by Anthony Saunders (Y)
Half Price! - £50.00
With the British Mediterranean Fleet riding at anchor in Grand  Harbour Malta, HMS  Majestic is shown preparing to leave harbour as local fisherman look on. 

Majestic Malta by Randall Wilson.
Half Price! - £65.00
B69.  HMS Valiant and HMS Queen Elizabeth at Alexandria by Ivan Berryman.

HMS Valiant and HMS Queen Elizabeth at Alexandria by Ivan Berryman.
Half Price! - £15.00

SPORT PRINTS

Click above to see our sport art portal - Four random half price items are displayed to the right.

Some Current Half Price Offers

 A great tribute to one of the all time greats in golf who will be sadly missed.

Seve Ballesteros by Peter Deighan. (Y)
Half Price! - £80.00
Epsom Trophy, Polo Championship

Epsom Trophy by Mark Churms. (AP)
Half Price! - £30.00
DB006. Michael Schumacher by Darren Baker.
Michael Schumacher by Darren Baker.
Half Price! - £75.00
 England 1 Germany 0, Euro 2000.  On the 17th of June 2000 England once again faced their old nemesis Germany in a Group A qualifying match at Euro 2000.  England entered the game knowing that they had not defeated Germany in a competitive match since the famous World Cup victory in 1966.  Germany made four changes to the side that had drawn with Romania including the introduction of midfielder Sebastian Deisler, whilst England had been forced to replace Tony Adams and Steve McManaman with Martin Keown and Dennis Wise due to injury.  As expected the game started at a frenetic pace and Jancker made things difficult for England's central defenders early on with his height and strength.  England appeared to be lacking cohesion and allowed Germany to take control of the game.  Deisler brought the German crowd to their feet with a clever run down the right hand side and minutes later Hamaan had their first strike on goal which was hit directly at David Seaman.  England were looking for a flash of inspiration and it was very nearly delivered as Michael Owen managed to meet Phil Neville's cross with his head but only managed to direct the ball on to the post.  Paul Scholes in typical fashion drove a ferocious volley, which was tipped just over the bar, and suddenly it appeared that England were beginning to find some weaknesses in certain areas of the German side.  At the interval little separated the two sides however, England started the second half with a steely determination.  After just seven minutes David Beckham earned his side a free kick in a very dangerous position on the England right.  With good movement from the forwards in the German area Beckham swung a speculative cross into the six yard box.  Owen, beaten by the pace, failed to connect but man of the match Alan Shearer anticipated the kind bounce and without hesitation headed the ball back across Kahn and into the right hand side of the German goal.  The England captain had broken the deadlock and instilled in his side the belief that they could finally defeat their oldest rivals.  Germany threw everything they had at England but Keegan's team were equal to the task in every area of the pitch.  As the final whistle blew a huge roar erupted from the England supporters as Alan Shearer's goal had ended over thirty years of frustration and sealed his place in the history books as one of England's greatest ever strikers.

Perfect Finish by Peter Cornwell.
Half Price! - £50.00

AVIATION PRINTS

Click above to see our aviation art portal - Four random half price items are displayed to the right.

Some Current Half Price Offers

 The extraordinary Lockheed F.117A Stealth fighter proved an awesome sight when at last it was revealed to the world in 1990, and it was soon to distinguish itself in combat in the deserts of the Middle East during the Iraqi campaign of 1991. Predator depicts an example of this inspired machine at altitude against an evening sun, benign and at the same time menacing, an intriguing testament to mans conquest and exploitation of the skies.

Predator by Ivan Berryman.
Half Price! - £40.00
 Squadron Leader H C Sawyer is depicted here flying his 65 Sqn Spitfire Mk.1a R6799 (YT-D) in the skies above Kent on 31st July 1940 at the height of the Battle of Britain. Chasing him is Major Hans Trubenbach of 1 Gruppe, Lehrgeschwader 2 in his Messerschmitt Vf109E-3 (Red 12) . The encounter lasted eight minutes with both pilots surviving.

High Pursuit by Ivan Berryman. (D)
Half Price! - £100.00
 Spitfires of No. 132 Squadron rush towards the Front to give ground support to the advancing Allied forces following breakout from the Normandy beaches, June 1944. <br><br><b>Published 2003.<br><br>Signed by three highly decorated fighter pilots who flew combat missions on D-Day, 6 June 1944, and during the Battle for Normandy.</b>

Normandy Breakout by Nicolas Trudgian. (Y)
Half Price! - £220.00
 On 31st August 1944, 6 Mosquitoes of 305 Polish Squadron, Lasham, 2nd TAF were led by Wing Commander Orlinski to attack oil refineries at Nomexy, south of Nancy, France. Diving down and releasing their bombs before escaping at tree top height they destroyed 4 large containers and several smaller ones. All aircraft safely returned after their four and a half hour sortie. Fl Lt Eric Atkins DFC(bar) KW(bar) and his navigator Fl Lt Majer can be seen exiting the area to reform on the other 3 Mosquitoes who have already finished their bombing run. This was Atkins 61st operation, finishing the war with 78 ops over 3 tours.

Mosquito Attack by Graeme Lothian. (Y)
Half Price! - £240.00

MILITARY PRINTS

Click above to see our military art portal - Four random half price items are displayed to the right.

Some Current Half Price Offers

 German forces encircled in the fortress town of Konigsberg by 3rd Ukranian front prepare to break through the besieging Soviet lines to re-establish a supply line to the Baltic. Here some Stug III assault guns move up to their assembly area next to the towns World War One memorial. From here the attack was launched on February 18th 1945 and successfully opened a supply corridor which remained in place until 8th April.

Counter Attack at Konigsberg by David Pentland. (B)
Half Price! - £60.00
 OT34 Flamethrower tank and men of Col. Krickmans 6th Guards Tank Brigade take part in the Soviet counter attacks of 13th-27th September in defence of the southern factory district of Stalingrad before the final offensive in October.

Motherland, The Battle of Stalingrad, September 1942 by David Pentland.
Half Price! - £95.00
<b>Ex-display prints in near perfect condition. </b>

Lance-Corporal Harry Nichols, 3rd battalion Grenadier Guards, winning the Victoria Cross at the River Escaut, 21st May 1940 by David Rowlands. (Y)
Half Price! - £20.00
 King Tigers of Kampfgruppe von Rosen, 3rd Company Heavy Tank Battalion 503, preparing to move out from the Tisza bridgehead to counter Soviet pressure on German forces attacking to the northwest at Debrecen during the first battles to defend the Hungarian capital of Budapest.

Tigers in the Mist by David Pentland. (B)
Half Price! - £120.00
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Gunnery and Fire Control jonti Other Naval Topics 65 04-11-2014 15:48
Old Swayback Maru and the last US gunnery duel BB60 US Navy Ships and Crews 16 23-05-2013 04:38
Von Müllenheim, Gunnery Officer - Bismarck bezukhov German Ships and Crews 0 03-11-2011 13:14
Gallopers' Good Gunnery Bellerophon Other Naval Topics 3 13-01-2011 00:43


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:00.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.