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Old 03-07-2016, 06:31
dennis a feary dennis a feary is offline
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Default Greek Submarines

Hello all. Seeking information on the following. Any help / thoughts much appreciated.

"When later a rating under his command accidentally released a torpedo in Alexandria harbour (it hit the far side and killed an Egyptian civilian) he found himself abruptly posted as liaison officer aboard a Greek submarine…which later jammed its bow between a couple of rocks while submerged close to Rhodes, where the Me109s were based. When the submarine blew its ballast to get free, all that happened was that the stern floated up out of the water. John said “There was some panic onboard. The only officer aboard I respected was their engineer officer and I saw him on his knees in front of the ship’s icon, crossing himself. But” inimitable John, observed “I realised he was simply giving himself time to think.”

The British L.O officer mentioned was John Muir. I do not have him as a `submarine officer', so he was temporary as L.O to the Greek submarine. Have you any information as to which Greek submarine he is referring to ?? Which Greek subs were in Alexandria ? Which Greek submarines made a Patrol to Rhodes ??
Some questions I would like to be able to answer.

Sadsac.
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Old 03-07-2016, 14:33
Platon Alexiades Platon Alexiades is offline
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Hello Sadsac,

I assume you are referring to the accidental firing of a torpedo by HMS Otus in Alexandria.
As for Greek submarines, five escaped to Alexandria in April 1941 (Nereus, Glaukos, Papanicolis, Triton and Katsonis), a sixth had been lost in action after sinking the Italian troop Sardegna (Proteus). They were all old, French-built and difficult to maintain.
The following patrols were carried near Rhodes:
Glaukos (12-25 July 1941).
Triton (24 July-4 August 1941)
Nereus (7-19 August 1941)
Triton (23 March-6 April 1942)
Papanicolis (31 August-15 September 1942)
Nereus (15-29 September 1942)
Nereus (27 October-13 November 1942)
Papanicolis (7-23 March 1943)
Nereus (19 March-4 April 1944)
Pipinos (ex RN Veldt) (27 June-14 April 1944)
Matrozos (ex Italian Perla) (14-23 September 1944)
Pipinos (9-16 October 1944)
Matrozos (16-22 October 1944)

Their patrol reports rarely list the name of BNLO so it is rather difficult to pinpoint which one is the patrol you mentioned and, as far as a quick glance I could afford, no such incident is mentioned. However it may be linked to Papanicolis' patrol of 31 August 1942 as her commander Athanasios Spanidis was relieved from his command shortly after.

Platon
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Old 03-07-2016, 15:00
dennis a feary dennis a feary is offline
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Hello Platon.
Many, Many, thanks for your prompt, informative and succinct reply.
Do you have any knowledge of the date of the OTUS torpedo firing incident in Alex ?? Finding that date would possibly give the date of the patrol undertaken by what submarine as the patrol mentioned seems to have been undertaken shortly after the incident.
Papanicolis Patrols are contained in PRO archive files numbers
ADM 199 / 1220 / 509 / 1342 / 1150 / 1921 and 1850 ( the `main' file).
Wonder if any WNSF members have these files `to hand'. But, as you point out the possibility is that the incident was not mentioned in the report of the submarine.
I will try to follow up your suggestion of it being Papanicolis.
Again, thanks.

Sadsac
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Old 09-07-2016, 15:23
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Katsonis wreck has recently been found.
In July 2016 the wreck was located by Greek's Navy Oceanographic vessel HS Naftilos A-478 (Υ/Γ-Ω/Κ Ναυτίλος). She lies of the coast of Skiathos at a depth of 170m

http://greece.greekreporter.com/2016...fter-73-years/
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Old 24-02-2017, 12:15
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Katsonis wreck has recently been found.
In July 2016 the wreck was located by Greek's Navy Oceanographic vessel HS Naftilos A-478 (Υ/Γ-Ω/Κ Ναυτίλος). She lies of the coast of Skiathos at a depth of 170m

http://greece.greekreporter.com/2016...fter-73-years/
Actually the HS NAFTILOS located a target in the area where KATSONIS was sunk, with dimensions generally fitting those of the sub. As there are more wrecks located in the same area, it will need to make further investigations in order to clarify the identity of the located wreck.
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