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Old 18-03-2012, 20:30
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Please can anyone settle an 'argument' for me please? I've been told that the current Sea Cadet Corps Drill Instructors badge (the same as a gunnery instructors) has crossed grenades on it! I'm sure they are crossed guns, & have looked them up on the web to confirm that they are, but a SCC L/T CMDR is trying to tell me they are grenades!?
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Old 18-03-2012, 20:52
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Please can anyone settle an 'argument' for me please? I've been told that the current Sea Cadet Corps Drill Instructors badge (the same as a gunnery instructors) has crossed grenades on it! I'm sure they are crossed guns, & have looked them up on the web to confirm that they are, but a SCC L/T CMDR is trying to tell me they are grenades!?
He's either:

1) taking the P...

2) Thick,

or 3) should go to Specsavers!
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Old 19-03-2012, 10:04
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Think the same, I was a qualified drill instructor with the SCC at Teignmouth unit some years ago.


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Old 19-03-2012, 14:01
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Must admit GI's badges showed cross gun barrels ,each barrel was of two different diameters, I suppose if your imagination runs wild the barrels do look a little like the German potato masher grenade. Never having seen the Cadet force badge I am just guessing.
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Old 19-03-2012, 14:14
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Must admit GI's badges showed cross gun barrels ,each barrel was of two different diameters, I suppose if your imagination runs wild the barrels do look a little like the German potato masher grenade. Never having seen the Cadet force badge I am just guessing.
Here's the real thing.

There is a difference in the way some of the barrels are laid. Left over right, and right over left! Don't know why.

Maybe its the 'GI' way. Going through the seven badges in sequence, it's: right, left, right, left, right, left, right!
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Old 19-03-2012, 14:40
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SEA CADET
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APPENDIX 2 TO SEA CADET REGULATIONS (ASCR 2)
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SCC Sea Cadet drill badge is in this PDF

(scroll down nearly half way)

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SEA CADET
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APPENDIX 2 TO SEA CADET REGULATIONS (ASCR 2)
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SCC Sea Cadet drill badge is in this PDF

(scroll down nearly half way)

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Well, they look like guns to me. A bit thin in that illustration, but nevertheless guns!
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Old 19-03-2012, 22:06
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Here's the real thing.

There is a difference in the way some of the barrels are laid. Left over right, and right over left! Don't know why.

Maybe its the 'GI' way. Going through the seven badges in sequence, it's: right, left, right, left, right, left, right!
And here is the real thing on a real Chief G.I.
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Old 20-03-2012, 07:28
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Thanks everyone for confirming what i thought was correct! Going to see said LT/CMDR (scc) at a Drill Competition at HMS Sultan at the end of March, should be an interesting conversation!!
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Hi All

For what it's worth, I've never seen trunnions on a hand grenade before.

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And here is the real thing on a real Chief G.I.
That's a bar on his long service and good conduct medal.
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