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Old 03-05-2017, 17:57
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Here's a song that rings true now as much as it did in the Dutch wars. Brilliant lyrics about the underfunded RN.

If wars were won by feasting,
Or victory by song,
Or safety found in sleeping sound,
How England would be strong!
But honour and dominion
Are not maintainèd so.
They're only got by sword and shot,
And this the Dutchmen know!

The moneys that should feed us
You spend on your delight,
How can you then have sailor-men
To aid you in your fight?
Our fish and cheese are rotten,
Which makes the scurvy grow—
We cannot serve you if we starve,
And this the Dutchmen know!

Our ships in every harbour
Be neither whole nor sound,
And, when we seek to mend a leak,
No oakum can be found;
Or, if it is, the caulker,
And carpenters also,
For lack of pay have gone away,
And this the Dutchmen know!

Mere powder, guns, and bullets,
We scarce can get at all;
Their price was spent in merriment
And revel at Whitehall,
While we in tattered doublets
From ship to shop must row,
Beseeching friends for odds and ends—
And this the Dutchmen know!

No King will heed our warnings,
No Court will pay our claims—
Our King and Court for their disport
Do sell the very Thames!
For, now De Ruyter's topsails
Off naked Chatham show,
We dare not meet him with our fleet—
And this the Dutchmen know!
Yes twas ever thus.
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Old 04-05-2017, 11:07
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Glad you enjoyed it, Edna.
I should have added it was originally a poem by Rudyard Kipling put to music by Peter Bellamy.

Rich
Ah, yes; Kipling had a way of putting his finger on the situation, didn't he? Thanks for the info.

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Old 04-05-2017, 11:14
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Here's another Kipling/Bellamy collaboration.

Big Steamers

“Oh, where are you going to, all you Big Steamers,
With England's own coal, up and down the salt seas?”
“We are going to fetch you your bread and your butter,
Your beef, pork, and mutton, eggs, apples, and cheese.”

“And where will you fetch it from, all you Big Steamers,
And where shall I write you when you are away?”
“We fetch it from Melbourne, Quebec, and Vancouver.
Address us at Hobart, Hong-kong, and Bombay.”

“But if anything happened to all you Big Steamers,
And suppose you was wrecked up and down the salt sea?”
“Why, then you'd have no coffee or bacon for breakfast,
And you'd have no muffins or toast for your tea.”

“Then I'll pray for fine weather for all you Big Steamers
For little blue billows and breezes so soft.”
“Oh, billows and breezes don't bother Big Steamers:
We're iron below and steel-rigging aloft.”

“Then I'll build a new lighthouse for all you Big Steamers,
With plenty wise pilots to pilot you through.”
“Oh, the Channel's as bright as a ball-room already,
And pilots are thicker than pilchards at Looe.”

“Then what can I do for you, all you Big Steamers,
Oh, what can I do for your comfort and good?”
“Send out your big warships to watch your big waters,
That no one may stop us from bringing you food.

For the bread that you eat and the biscuits you nibble,
The sweets that you suck and the joints that you carve,
They are brought to you daily by All Us Big Steamers
And if any one hinders our coming you'll starve!”
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Old 04-05-2017, 11:17
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Here's a video of some friends of mine singing it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veWRjBVZTvA
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Old 05-05-2017, 13:50
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Holy Moses! We sang that at school, which was ironic in the wartime 1940s with all the Uboats and unreported ship losses.

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Old 10-05-2017, 19:50
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For those who didn't see this on the May 8th VE Day thread here is an impromptu bit of singing by our charming Russian film maker, Elena Mulenkova. The party was over, just a few of us with our wonderful Russian veterans, and a few British, enjoying a final toast or three with the excellent rum presented by the Jamaican Embassy. The spirit (rum that is) moved me to ask Lena to sing for us which she graciously agreed to do. I captured these two on my mobile, never done before, which I think are completely charming. These are "Vera Lynsky" songs that every Russian over 50 will immediately identify with. I hope you like them
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https://1drv.ms/f/s!AqQJmDRV_LOcrA7YpVwlMoA90FP5
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Old 14-05-2017, 13:12
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Looking at this thread reminded me that in the 60's ? there was a chap who made records of sea songs. I have been trying to remember his name, in a flash, it came to me, he was Cyril Tawney. Anyone else remember him?
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Old 14-05-2017, 22:42
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I remember Cyril very well. He was a very reluctant submariner. In my folk singing days I played support act for him in Gosport in the seventies. I believe the pub may have been the Queen Charlotte (Is that right?). He wrote many great songs. His "Sally free and easy" was I believe about a wren in Malta. It has been recorded by almost everyone in folk music. I used to sing his version of the traditional song "The Bold Benjamin" in past times. I still occasionally sing it when left alone with the dishes and its on my album "Tellin' Tales".
Cyril is long gone but I remember him with great fondness.
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Old 15-05-2017, 10:59
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I've only just remembered that I am on You Tube singing "The Bold Benjamin" should anyone wish to here the song.
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Old 15-05-2017, 14:49
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I've only just remembered that I am on You Tube singing "The Bold Benjamin" should anyone wish to here the song.
Ey up there Jan; I stayed on 'here' but couldn't 'hear' the song, so I ventured over here and I could 'hear' it very well.


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Old 15-05-2017, 15:18
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Thank you for the English Language lesson little h (LOL) fingers working faster than my brain I'm afraid. I always had this trouble when doing MKXs. The cause was the same.
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Old 15-05-2017, 16:40
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Great to see you back on this thread, Jan. Bold Benjamin is a great song and very well performed. Are you at Fishguard this year?
We don't do very many song of the sea but here's the Death of Nelson off our first album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCl4iZsN1_U

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Old 15-05-2017, 17:43
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Good to hear from you Rich. No I won't be at the festival this year. I've given up singing in public to concentrate on other areas of my life. Great track by the way.
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Old 17-05-2017, 14:35
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Shipmates, I have missed your honeyed tones, good to have you back again.

Have been hunting through the detritis, but can't find our record of Cyril Tawney

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