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Old 26-12-2017, 23:03
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Missed that - sorry!
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Old 26-12-2017, 23:23
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Yes was aware of that fact, I didn't make my post clear enough problems with Project Protector may have made NZG gun-shy of AU industry to brinh the program to a successful conclusion, as they saw with a number of AU projects ie M113 upgrade Seasprite affair and the Adelaide class upgrade under Sea 1390



Besides the NZG going CAMM route how does ASMD compare to the Canadian CMS 330 system upgrade
You could argue the merits of SAAB 9LV Vs LM CMS 330 and the arguments between Sea Ceptor and ESSM have been well,covered.
I believe the main difference is between the two radars, SMART S and CEAFAR/CEAMOUNT. THe latter provides far greater agility and improved coverage, it is a generation ahead.
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Old 26-12-2017, 23:45
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When is the frigate going over to Canada to be upgraded?
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Old 27-12-2017, 02:28
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You could argue the merits of SAAB 9LV Vs LM CMS 330 and the arguments between Sea Ceptor and ESSM have been well,covered.
I believe the main difference is between the two radars, SMART S and CEAFAR/CEAMOUNT. THe latter provides far greater agility and improved coverage, it is a generation ahead.
And particularly response time to an suddenly appearing, low level high speed target
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Old 27-12-2017, 14:50
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When is the frigate going over to Canada to be upgraded?
Nighthawk:

I had asked the same question at post #15 of this thread, but haven't yet received a response.

My understanding was that it was supposed to be sometime in 2017, but perhaps not.

Was hoping that someone in your neck of the woods might know.
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Old 27-12-2017, 21:41
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Nighthawk:

I had asked the same question at post #15 of this thread, but haven't yet received a response.

My understanding was that it was supposed to be sometime in 2017, but perhaps not.

Was hoping that someone in your neck of the woods might know.

http://www.navy.mil.nz/mtf/fsac/default.htm

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Frigate Systems Upgrade (FSU) 2018 – 2019. The frigate systems upgrade project was identified in the 2010 Defence White Paper as necessary to maintain the frigates' combat capability until the end of their service life.

The Anzac FSU project will upgrade the surveillance, combat and self-defence capabilities of the ANZAC frigates to match current and future threats and address obsolescence of some of the current systems. This will include a new combat management system, new radars, electronic detection and other above water sensors, the self-defence missile system, decoys against missiles and torpedoes, and an upgrade to the hull-mounted sonar

In 2014, the Government awarded to Lockheed Martin Canada. The project will see improvements to the following combat subsystems:
•Radar suite including Identification, Friend or Foe (IFF) system
•Infra-Red Search and Track / Optronics (IRST/O) system
•Electronic Support Measures (ESM) suite
•Communications Electronic Support Measures (CESM) system
•Underwater Systems (UWS)
•Combat Management System (CMS)
•Tactical Data Link (TDL) system
•Local Area Air Defence (LAAD) missile system
•ASMD Soft Kill (ASK) suite
•Torpedo Self Defence (TSD) system
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Old 28-12-2017, 16:58
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Thanks for that.
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Old 31-12-2017, 21:29
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Nighthawk:

I had asked the same question at post #15 of this thread, but haven't yet received a response.

My understanding was that it was supposed to be sometime in 2017, but perhaps not.

Was hoping that someone in your neck of the woods might know.
Last I heard and to my understanding early next... errr wait... early this year (2018) stupid new year party hangover lol.

But I don't have any firm dates and I could be totally wrong and they seem to delay things more and more...
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Last I heard and to my understanding early next... errr wait... early this year (2018) stupid new year party hangover lol.

But I don't have any firm dates and I could be totally wrong and they seem to delay things more and more...
yeah not 100% sure either just going by the government announcement.
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Old 01-01-2018, 04:24
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The FSU project is a significant mid-life upgrade of the New Zealand ANZAC frigates’ combat system encompassing the replacement, addition, and/or modification of the majority of the combat system equipment and associated spaces.

The FSU Project will increase the ships’ combat capability and utility commensurate with the modern threat environment. To an observer, the most noticeable element of the FSU solution will be the replacement of the forward and aft masts on the ANZAC frigates, which will support many of the new sensors.

AMT has been a key design and integration partner for the FSU Project from its beginning. AMT worked closely with the New Zealand MoD Project Team to develop and derisk the initial concepts. This role has developed through AMT working as part of the Crown Team to develop the Concepts to the Preliminary Design stage.

After the completion of the Preliminary Design in 2015, AMT was then contracted by the Prime Contractor (Lockheed Martin Canada) to undertake the detailed design for the complete FSU ship integration.

During the detail design AMT worked closely with the implementation shipyard to ensure that the level of detail produced in the design package is optimised and focussed on that necessary to support the production process and build process, while minimising the time required to install the FSU solution. CDR for the lead ship was successfully completed in early May 2017 with Prefabrication in Victoria Shipyard in Canada commencing in late 2017.

AMT will provide design personnel on-site during the production period, to support and assist the shipyard.
http://www.ausmarinetech.com.au/case...ystem-upgrade/
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