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Old 14-11-2017, 09:31
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Maybe duplicitous was a bit strong but their wording in their video shows BAE plastered across the sheds with the subtitles on the video "creating a fully integrated shipyard".
It was intentionally ambiguous at best.
It's a battle for a large order, what do you expect an 'It's not cricket old chap' attitude. Look we have even sent a piece of totty ? to butter you up.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/u...ministers-meet
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Old 14-11-2017, 22:40
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It's a battle for a large order, what do you expect an 'It's not cricket old chap' attitude. Look we have even sent a piece of totty ? to butter you up.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/u...ministers-meet
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Can you please enlighten this poor colonial ... what does "totty" mean?
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Old 14-11-2017, 23:25
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Can you please enlighten this poor colonial ... what does "totty" mean?
Sorry Tim, so just for you :-


"totty
ˈtɒti/
nounBritishinformal
noun: totty

girls or women collectively regarded as sexually desirable.
"the group on the table next to us were blatantly checking out the totty"
a girl or woman, especially one regarded as sexually desirable.
plural noun: totties"


You will of course have noticed that I did put a question mark after the word when I used it. As they say 'Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder'

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Old 14-11-2017, 23:30
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Sorry Tim, so just for you :-


"totty
ˈtɒti/
nounBritishinformal
noun: totty

girls or women collectively regarded as sexually desirable.
"the group on the table next to us were blatantly checking out the totty"
a girl or woman, especially one regarded as sexually desirable.
plural noun: totties"


You will of course have noticed that I did put a question mark after the word when I used it. As they say 'Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder'

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Old 15-11-2017, 08:48
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One aims to please.
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Old 23-11-2017, 14:27
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BAE willing to transfer all T26 technology/design to Australia :-

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...australia.html
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Old 25-11-2017, 01:36
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BAE willing to transfer all T26 technology/design to Australia :-

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...australia.html
going out of their way, I guess they are looking past this to other export opportunity namely the USN

Wonder how much they recoup in licence fees?
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Old 25-11-2017, 08:52
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going out of their way, I guess they are looking past this to other export opportunity namely the USN

Wonder how much they recoup in licence fees?
Doubt if the US would be interested in the T26, I think they are looking for something with a little more capability than their LCS, but not as complex or expensive as the city class.

If anything it would be a nod to Canada, that they could expect the same deal if they chose the T26, and they do need a high end vessel.
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Old 25-11-2017, 12:59
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Doubt if the US would be interested in the T26, I think they are looking for something with a little more capability than their LCS, but not as complex or expensive as the city class.

If anything it would be a nod to Canada, that they could expect the same deal if they chose the T26, and they do need a high end vessel.
Yep, General Dynamics has teamed with Bath Iron Works and Navantia to bid for the 20 proposed FFX. THis is a good fit as Gibbs and Cox not only design the ABs but also had a large role in the design of the F 100, a natural fit for the USN.
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Old 09-01-2018, 05:32
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The Competitive Evaluation Process for SEA5000 is reaching its climax with a decision to be announced in April this year and construction to commence in 2023.
The three bidders have completed their process and the programme is now at the stage where each company is answering questions from the Commonwealth and vice versa regarding their submissions. This is known as the Offer, Definition and Improvement Activities (ODIA).

The Australian Government willl construct the new shipyard at Osbourne SA (already started) and this will be managed by the winning bidder.

https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/ai...-set-for-april
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Old 09-01-2018, 09:49
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The Competitive Evaluation Process for SEA5000 is reaching its climax with a decision to be announced in April this year and construction to commence in 2023.
The three bidders have completed their process and the programme is now at the stage where each company is answering questions from the Commonwealth and vice versa regarding their submissions. This is known as the Offer, Definition and Improvement Activities (ODIA).

The Australian Government willl construct the new shipyard at Osbourne SA (already started) and this will be managed by the winning bidder.

https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/ai...-set-for-april

Well it's been stated the new frigates are to be optimized for ASW, so it's case closed, got to be the T26.
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Old 09-01-2018, 12:18
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Well it's been stated the new frigates are to be optimized for ASW, so it's case closed, got to be the T26.
I think the inclusion of Aegis FC system points to the latest thinking that it will also be a very effective AAW platform as well.

A point from the linked article which is important but didn't stand out is that they are quoting construction to start in 2023. This is slightly misleading because the first of Class, which they are calling a "prototype" will begin construction in 2020. If it was n F35 I guess we would call it the LRIP (Low Rate Initial Production) model.
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Old 10-01-2018, 17:45
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I think the inclusion of Aegis FC system points to the latest thinking that it will also be a very effective AAW platform as well.

A point from the linked article which is important but didn't stand out is that they are quoting construction to start in 2023. This is slightly misleading because the first of Class, which they are calling a "prototype" will begin construction in 2020. If it was n F35 I guess we would call it the LRIP (Low Rate Initial Production) model.
First post on this forum but the attached link from another forum advises

"GE's Marine Solutions' LM2500 gas turbine modules are to be manufactured in Australia by RJE Global in support of a Royal Australian Navy frigate program."

Specifically, the article advises the GTs will be for the SEA 5000 Future Frigate Program. Both the evolved Hobart design and the Italian FREMM are LM GT powered.

https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/201...=1151513276280
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Old 11-01-2018, 07:41
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Should know the outcome in April

https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/ai...-set-for-april
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Old 11-01-2018, 10:46
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It is interesting to see that two of the three bids for Australian work come from consortia that are also bidding for the Canadian Surface Combatant program.

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Old 15-01-2018, 11:50
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It is interesting to see that two of the three bids for Australian work come from consortia that are also bidding for the Canadian Surface Combatant program.

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Brian, there is a major difference and that is the winning bidder will become the prime, not Irving or any other designated shipbuilder. It gives an added level of comfort (my supposition)to all in submitting their bids
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Old 07-02-2018, 14:55
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L3 and BAE team up for SEA5000 bid :-

https://navaltoday.com/2018/02/05/l3...e-frigate-bid/
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