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Old 19-09-2017, 16:31
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Default Re: Warship Collisions, Groundings, Fatal Events

Originally Posted by Kevin Denlay View Post
To get an idea (that is if there are any other land lubbers here) just how close the fore-guns can 'point aft of abaft' , the below plan of the arcs of the fore-guns on the cruiser HMS Exeter (68) give some idea of what it may have been like on the bridge / inside the superstructure when fired at that angle! Red and green dots show max aft angle of #2 and #1 turret respectfully.

And fired at that angle they were, as that is exactly, repeat exactly, how they were found pointing on the wreck of Exeter when discovered in 2007 in the Java Sea (long before she disappeared into the hands of illegal salvagers that is, but that’s another story.)

And if you go to this page here, post 26, you will see HMS Tiger with her even bigger guns pointing in a similar direction. Ouch.
Ouch is right and that is painful. Yes that is exciting on the bridge!

Guns pointed abaft the beam makes for decidedly unpleasant conditions on the bridge. Much more so than in the mounts themselves! Additionally when the guns/mounts/turrets are trained that far aft besides the blast etc. there are still more factors to consider for the bridge team. For instance will the train limit stops or firing cut out systems actually work and will you destroy your own bridge? And if the safety systems function properly will you therefore stop engaging the enemy as your guns stop firing? Should the bridge team maneuver and clear/open the firing arcs and hazard formation integrity and or risk collision. And of course none of this is done is isolation as the enemy is likely maneuvering for their own tactical advantage to open or close the range to suit their battery.

So going back to Grosser Kreuzer's question re whether flash was a contributory factor to the collisions that occurred. Yes smoke. flash, shock and debris all impact a bridge team's performance and this is even before you potentially take fire. Whether in training or combat, warship watch officers have a lot to consider besides point to point seamanship.

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