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Old 02-01-2017, 19:51
Shinysheff Shinysheff is offline
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oopz... I should have said F-35 program! For the time and baaazillions of $ poured into that thing (and LC$)...pretty much a total waste, IMO. DFO
Have to admit you were totally correct on the LSC the entire time. I thought it had some potential but you had it bang to rights.
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Old 02-01-2017, 21:40
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Have to admit you were totally correct on the LSC the entire time. I thought it had some potential but you had it bang to rights.
There was much wrong with the LCS but within modern USN CONOPS they re providing a very much needed capability in the new paradigm of "distributed lethality".
Instead of regurgitating the same old I'll informed trolling found in the media re F35 and LCS you need to open the mind to a new world of warfare where platforms and weapons are for less important than situational awareness, connectivity ( Links 16, 22 and NIFC-CA) and seamless cooperation between sea, air and land in the case of amphibious ops.
Targeting and sensor information from P8s, F 35s and UAVs, distributed to and between TGs via CEC (the worst defect the T45s had imposed on. Them was the lack of any CEC from day one)
All this is modern war fighting not bigger guns and missiles.


I've included a link, an interview with Navy Secretary Ray Mabus which includes the state of the USN, the destruction that can be caused to shipbuilding by political obfuscation and delay and from about 23 mins on, the role to be played by LCS and its Frigate derivative.
It's well worth watching and is quite informative.

https://youtu.be/n1UEUse4z1c
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Old 03-01-2017, 14:57
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Back to the subject, the new Aussie DDGs: from what I've found/read in open source press; they seem to be a capable, well balanced and affordable design. USN should take note; more LCS's and Zumwalts we don't need. A real WARSHIP (frigate) slotted below the Burkes we DO need! DFO

As far as LCS is concerned, one might do well to read my latest post @ them on LCS thread....
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Old 30-01-2017, 08:01
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HMAS Hobart starts trials :-

http://navaltoday.com/2017/01/30/aus...ptance-trials/
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Old 30-01-2017, 10:34
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A nice photo of the second DDG HMAS Brisbane immediately following her launch on 15 Dec last year.

https://www.facebook.com/senatormari...type=3&theater
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Old 19-02-2017, 10:38
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The Spanish Armada's Cristobalite Colon has arrived at Fleet Base West.
She will join HMAS Hobart to facilitate the work up.
There are several RAN personnel who sailed in her from Spain and many more will rotate through her during her stay in Australia (from memory about 7 months)

https://www.facebook.com/RoyalAustra...10128845668476
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Old 06-03-2017, 21:51
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Progress with Hobart.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fdWLBw0CR5M
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Old 16-05-2017, 02:59
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With only a few weeks away from commissioning the Federal Minister for Defence Industry, Christopher Pyne conducted a fluff piece PR tour of DDG Hobart with a commercial TV station in Adelaide.
It gives some glimpses of the ships interior, bridge, galley etc.
If you can get over the fact that it's a politician conducting the tour it's not a bad video.

https://youtu.be/jeyM9_aEULY
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Old 16-06-2017, 04:03
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Hobart provisionally accepted by the Commonwealth from the AWD Alliance at approximtely 1000 I/K this morning
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Old 16-06-2017, 10:28
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Hobart provisionally accepted by the Commonwealth from the AWD Alliance at approximtely 1000 I/K this morning
I must correct my previous ref to commissioning. This won't happen until September when she will be at Garden Island FBE
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Old 16-06-2017, 10:47
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An Alliance fluff video commemorating Hobarts handover to defence.

https://youtu.be/b-ENsoBv8ws
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Old 07-08-2017, 00:25
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Hobart on delivery voyage to Sydney, currently off Warnambool in about ss 6!
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Old 07-08-2017, 07:58
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Hobart on delivery voyage to Sydney, currently off Warnambool in about ss 6!
In reply to your post re the AWD on the T26 thread, thought I would answer on here. I have just been reading this article which I hadn't seen before, and it gave me a lot more insight into the problems with the build.

http://australianmadedefence.com.au/...e-awd-project/

Cheers

GF
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Old 07-08-2017, 13:02
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In reply to your post re the AWD on the T26 thread, thought I would answer on here. I have just been reading this article which I hadn't seen before, and it gave me a lot more insight into the problems with the build.

http://australianmadedefence.com.au/...e-awd-project/

Cheers

GF
Thanks GF that is an accurate summary although somewhat dated. What it fails to mention was that BAE in Williamstown was given the first and most complex hull modules, they had oversold their current expertise, and the first and most important one was built so badly (for all the reasons given at your ref.) that it had to be totally reworked. Once it was delivered to ASC they found that they had to once again redo a huge number of welds, replace valves and flanges that had been fitted in reverse and generally rework the module. BAE management, ASC and Navantia then had a protracted dispute over cause which certainly was not helped by the stupid Alliance structure enforced by government.
There has been a 30% improvement in time and cost for ship 2 Brisbane, and a further 50% improvement for ship 3 Sydney.

Since that report the government has released the whole of enterprise shipbuilding plan that will see a continuous build over the next decades

It is hoped that all the lessons learnt from both this and the LHD builds has been absorbed by decision makers from all parties and planners.

Finally, you can see from this experience that there is a fair bit of corporate memory which leads to only using mature designs for future builds.
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Old 08-08-2017, 03:09
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In reply to your post re the AWD on the T26 thread, thought I would answer on here. I have just been reading this article which I hadn't seen before, and it gave me a lot more insight into the problems with the build.

http://australianmadedefence.com.au/...e-awd-project/

Cheers

GF

I couldn't possibly comment!
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Old 09-08-2017, 23:35
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It's pleasing to see NUSHIP Hobart arriving at Fleet Base East (FBE) her new home port.
She will commission next month.

https://www.facebook.com/RoyalAustra...6843890663636/
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Old 10-08-2017, 01:31
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Let's hope that, as with the predecessor class of DDGs, in 30 years we're able to look back and say what a great buy they were - those of us that are still capable of anything in 30 years!
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Old 21-08-2017, 22:28
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She is a beauty, that's for sure.
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Old 23-09-2017, 09:00
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HMAS HOBART commissioned at Fleet Base East Garden Island this morning.
The ceremony was attended by the PM Malcolm Turnbull and the Defence Minister Marise Payne seen here in the last photo

Let's hope the class is as effective and potent as her immediate predecessor.

http://news.navy.gov.au/en/Sep2017/Fleet/4070
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Old 23-09-2017, 13:05
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It is a bit of a shame that the Harpoon canisters were not fitted for the ceremony. BZ nonetheless.
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Old 09-10-2017, 12:29
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HRH Prince Andrew visits Hobart, Watson and RANAS Nowra, HMAS Albatross

Some nice photos included.

http://news.navy.gov.au/en/Oct2017/Events/4101
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Old 09-10-2017, 14:00
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HRH Prince Andrew visits Hobart, Watson and RANAS Nowra, HMAS Albatross

Some nice photos included.

http://news.navy.gov.au/en/Oct2017/Events/4101
I didn't even realise he was visiting Australia, until I saw this post and googled his visit.

Good grief it must be a shock to the system, if he is actually doing some work out there. Can't say that he is the royal workaholic.
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Old 09-10-2017, 22:29
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I didn't even realise he was visiting Australia, until I saw this post and googled his visit.

Good grief it must be a shock to the system, if he is actually doing some work out there. Can't say that he is the royal workaholic.
You and me both! His visit hasn't been publicised and if it didn't pop up on the RAN Daily News I wouldn't have known he was here.
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