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Old 22-02-2013, 18:51
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Default Massacre At Glencoe -13th February 1692

GLENCOE MASSACRE

The order came through that the chiefs were to sign an oath of allegiance to King William by January 1, 1692. Although this oath was originally packaged with the promise of money and land for the clans, by the time it was circulated publicly the terms were much more threatening - the clans would sign the agreement or be punished with the "utmost extremity of the law". The man who used this deadline to his own political ends was the Secretary of State, John Dalrymple, Master of Stair, who was a Lowlander and a Protestant. He disliked the Highlanders and viewed their whole way of life as a hindrance to Scotland, which would be better served, he thought, in union with England. He had a particular dislike for the MacDonalds of Glen Coe.

Another problem for the clans at the time was the fact that many of them were bound by an oath to James Stuart, the deposed King in France. It was December 12 before James had released the clans from their oath and December 28 before a messenger arrived in the Highlands with the news - leaving only three days until the deadline.

As the worst of winter swept through Glen Coe on December 31, MacIain, fearful for the safety of his clan, left for Fort William to sign the oath. From here he was turned back by Colonel John Hill, who explained that the oath had to be taken before a sheriff. This involved a 60 mile trek to Inveraray: the principle town of his enemies, the Campbells. Still MacIain could have met the deadline had he not been captured by Campbell soldiers serving in Argyll’s regiment. They detained him for a day, whilst he was detained for several more days in Inveraray due to the absence of the Sheriff, Sir Colin Campbell. Even then, MacIain had to plead with the Sheriff to accept the late oath.

In Edinburgh, the Master of Stair with his legal team declined the late-delivered oath. Everything was ready for the fall which Stair had engineered for the clan. The orders were explicit: the MacDonalds were to be slaughtered - "cut off root and branch". Three commanders were to be involved - two from the Campbell-dominated Argyll regiment and one from Fort William. In the end, two of those never arrived in time, claiming delay through bad weather. It was Captain Robert Campbell of Glenlyon, a desperate man who lost his all through gambling, who carried out Stair’s final order: "to put all to the sword under seventy".

The soldiers arrived at Glen Coe 12 days before the massacre, as friends, seeking shelter due to the fact that the fort was full. The MacDonalds, honouring the Highland hospitality code, duly gave the soldiers quarter in their own houses. For 12 days they lived together with neither the clan nor the common Argyll soldiers knowing what lay ahead.

On the night of February 13 a blizzard howled through Glen Coe, giving whiteout conditions. As the clan slept the house guests gathered, received their orders, and set about systematically killing everyone they could. 38 lay dead the next morning, including the chief, MacIain. Many more escaped into the hills, some finding shelter before the elements could kill them, some, including MacIain’s elderly wife, dying on the mountainside.

It seems certain that some of the Campbell soldiers, disgusted with their orders, alerted the families who had been their hosts, giving them time to escape and at least wrap up against blizzard. Many historians also claim that the lateness of the other two companies of soldiers who were to help in the slaughter was deliberate - a ploy not to be involved in such an atrocity.

The nation of Scotland, although used to war and murder in its many forms, was outraged by the callousness of the massacre of Glen Coe. For the Jacobites in Edinburgh it was a powerful piece of anti-government propaganda. An inquiry was held and Scottish Parliament declared the whole affair an act of murder. John Dalrymple, the Master of Stair, resigned and the matter was forgotten by the government. In Scotland it passed into legend. The Campbells were accursed in much of the Highlands and even to this day the old Clachaig Inn at Glen Coe carries the sign on its door, 'No Campbells


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Old 22-02-2013, 22:56
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The nine of diamonds Jim!

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Old 22-02-2013, 23:09
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Just as well- as I am not a Campbell; but a Graham of Montrose by lineage.

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Old 23-02-2013, 00:40
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Jim: The MacDonalds shall not forget!
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The nine of diamonds Jim!

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John:

I knew of the association of the "Curse of Scotland" with the aftermath of the Battle of Colloden, but until I read your post, wasn't aware of its connection to the massacre of Glencoe. Sounds as thought "Butcher" Cumberland and John Dalrymple were cut from the same cloth!
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Old 23-02-2013, 07:58
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The Battle of Culloden

The first story goes that on the eve of the Battle of Culloden the Duke of Cumberland was playing cards with his senior staff.


A young officer arrived wanting to know the Duke's orders for the battle. The Duke allegedly ordered "no quarter" to the Jacobites. Fearing the bloodbath to come the young officer wisely asked for the order to be written down.
In annoyance the Duke grabbed a playing card and wrote the order down. That card was supposed to be the nine of diamonds.


A great story but unlikely to be true since the first mention of the Curse of Scotland dates back to 1708: 38 years before the battle.

The Glencoe Massacre


The second story dates back to the ruthless massacre at Glencoe where Sir John Dalrymple, 1st Earl of Stair, ordered the massacre of the Glencoe MacDonalds.

The massacre caused an outcry across Britain and since the Stair coat of arms bears a striking resemblance to the nine of diamonds the card was forever to become known as the Curse of Scotland by association.
Many other theories exist ranging from the theft of Mary Queen of Scots' diamonds to a card game where the nine of diamonds was called the Pope – for devout 18th century Presbyterians a curse indeed.


As for the truth? The Routledge Dictionary of Historical Slang sums it up perfectly: “the various theories are as interesting as they are unconvincing”.

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This song is not, as widely believed a traditional song,
but is the work of Jim Mclean of Duart Music Publishers, (1963)


Oh cruel is the snow that sweeps Glencoe
And covers the grave o' Donald
And cruel was the foe that raped Glencoe
And murdered the house o' MacDonald

They came in the night when the men were asleep
That band of Argyles, through snow soft and deep.
Like murdering foxes, among helpless sheep
They slaughtered the house o' MacDonald
Chorus
They came through the blizzard, we offered them heat
A roof ower their heads, dry shoes for their feet.
We wined them and dined them, they ate of our meat
And slept m the house O' MacDonald
Chorus
They came from Fort William with murder mind
The Campbell's had orders, King William had signed
Put all to the sword, these words underlined
And leave none alive called MacDonald
Chorus
Some died in their beds at the hands of the foe
Some fled in the night, and were lost in the snow.
Some lived to accuse hlm, that struck the first blow
But gone was the house of MacDonald
Chorus
Words and music Jim Mclean, Publisher Duart Music 1963



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Old 15-04-2013, 17:12
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This song is not, as widely believed a traditional song, but is the work of Jim Mclean of Duart Music Publishers, (1963)

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What an incredibly moving song Jim - literally sent shivers up and down my spine.

Thanks for posting it.
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Old 16-04-2013, 08:20
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Unfortunately Tim-there is no music -so one has to improvise-the tune of the "Bonny Banks of Loch Lomond" almost fits-it is also is a mournful piece.

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Plenty of recordings around, here`s one of the better known ones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cPitxtk4m0
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Old 16-04-2013, 10:51
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Mant thanks clevewyn for that-I think it is a bit too nice a sound for such a melancholy theme.So here is the original

http://ingeb.org/songs/theycain.html

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