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Old 08-07-2015, 18:21
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Italy Issues $1.2B Contract for New Big Deck Amphib

(From USNI News)

"The Italian Navy has issued a contract for a big deck amphibious warship in a $1.1 billion ship deal announced last week."

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http://news.usni.org/2015/07/06/ital...b-in-1-2b-deal

Am I missing something ... or does this sound/look rather like a Mistral?

One wonders whether any interest was shown in acquiring one of the two stateless "Mistral/Vladivostok" hulls currently sitting in France and apparently looking for an owner.
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Old 09-07-2015, 03:04
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No, you aren't missing much. It is to perform exactly the same mission as the Mistrals do.

This is one of a planned two LHDs to replace the 3 smaller San Giorgio-class "LPDs" (with their full-length flight decks they are more like small LHDs).


The plan is to also build a slightly-larger (~27,000 tons) "LHA" to replace Giuseppe Garibaldi (many expect it to be F-35B-capable like Cavour).


And with Fincantieri around, there is no chance Italy will buy large warships from abroad - Italy "must" built its own warships - national pride, national economy (jobs, et al), and so on.
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Old 11-07-2015, 20:02
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ironic that everyone is building amphibious warfare ships while we chose not to replace ours despite their success. Or has the definition of this kind of warfare made ships of the Fearless type redundant?
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Old 16-08-2015, 07:51
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its interesting that they don't just use a modified Cavour hull whilst also giving additional deck space for F35B
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Old 17-08-2015, 11:18
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ironic that everyone is building amphibious warfare ships while we chose not to replace ours despite their success. Or has the definition of this kind of warfare made ships of the Fearless type redundant?
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Not redundant, complimentary. A USN flat deck LHD carrying the bulk of the aviation assets and 2 x LPD's carrying hardware. All supporting about 2,300 troops of a Marine Expeditionary Unit.
With accompanying escorts, becomes an Expeditionary Strike Group.
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Old 18-08-2015, 01:16
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Not redundant, complimentary. A USN flat deck LHD carrying the bulk of the aviation assets and 2 x LPD's carrying hardware. All supporting about 2,300 troops of a Marine Expeditionary Unit.
With accompanying escorts, becomes an Expeditionary Strike Group.
Normally 1xLHA/LHD, 1xLPD, and 1xLSD/LSD(CV). The LPD is oriented more towards personnel transport while the LSDs are more equipment-oriented.

The Whidbey Island class LSDs (8) & Harpers Ferry class LSD(CV)s (4) are to be replaced by a new LX(R) derived from the San Antonio-class LPDs (9 in commission, 3 building).
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Old 18-08-2015, 02:54
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Normally 1xLHA/LHD, 1xLPD, and 1xLSD/LSD(CV). The LPD is oriented more towards personnel transport while the LSDs are more equipment-oriented.

The Whidbey Island class LSDs (8) & Harpers Ferry class LSD(CV)s (4) are to be replaced by a new LX(R) derived from the San Antonio-class LPDs (9 in commission, 3 building).
Thanks for expanding BB. We have just has USS Bonhomme Richard LHD 6, USS Green Bay LPD 20 and USS Ashland LSD 48 all here in Darwin along with the 31st MEU for Talisman Sabre 2015. Included from time to time during the exercise we had 2 x Henry Kaiser AOR's, 2 x Lewis and Clark T-AKE's anchored in the harbour and also 2 x AB DDG's alongside. Certainly provided much eye candy for those of us interested.
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ITS GIUSEPPE GARIBALDI, captured on skyline this morning anchored in
St Marks basin Venice.

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Old 17-03-2016, 14:02
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Hi Derek,

That is not Garibaldi, she is San Marco. Garibaldi is considerbaly larger than san Marco
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Old 17-03-2016, 14:33
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is San Marco small enough to be a tender for a QE2 class do everything all purpose vessel??
presumably space in the hangar for it.
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Old 17-03-2016, 14:41
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ironic that everyone is building amphibious warfare ships while we chose not to replace ours despite their success. Or has the definition of this kind of warfare made ships of the Fearless type redundant?
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surely the UK MOD(N), or whatever title they are hiding behind this week, knows enough about the future of naval warfare to know which way things are going and can see that as they have already been there, done that, there is no longer any need to become involved.
As everyone seems to be so slow following our success they will suddenly wake up to the fact that the Royal Navy has got rid of theirs and they will eventually do the same


irony off, eyes front, swing those arms
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