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Old 07-05-2010, 18:02
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In commemoration of the WWII victory USS "Kauffman" (FFG-59) arrived today to Saint-Petersburg.
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Old 07-05-2010, 20:37
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By the way COMSIXFLT is on board USS KAUFFMAN.
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Hi.

I was on May, 8-9th in St.-Petersburg. One of photos.

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Old 04-11-2011, 10:59
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A couple of photos sent to me by the Novosti Press Agency in 1972 and one taken by a work collegue whilst on a business trip in 1975.

1 & 2 - AURORA undated

3 - AURORA 14 April 75

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Old 04-11-2011, 11:50
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One the rest of you missed: a diving pump on board the Aurora. The photo was sent to me a couple of weeks ago by a retired Surgeon Commodore.

Like the Royal Navy, the Russian Navy had diving apparatus on board all of its major ships from the 1860s onwards. The first ones were supplied by Siebe Gorman Ltd, a good old British company.
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Old 04-11-2011, 14:53
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I've got a question regarding an adjacent issue regarding Russian naval history. Rather than start another thread I'll ask it here.

Edward Bates, President Lincoln's Attorney General, conceived the idea of allowing Russian naval forces winter anchorage in various ice-free ports during the U.S. Civil War. I believe this had the effect of reducing the chances of another European powers possibly taking advantage of the divided situation with military force. Was there any mention of the movement of Russian naval force in the press and where would this be found?

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Old 12-11-2011, 08:53
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Hi Hank,

Sorry to say I noticed your request too late. Nevertheless here you are with some info re Russian Navy activity during the civil war in USA period.

It was a risky time. UK and France created alliance against Russia and support South in their struggle against North. Russia was supporting President A. Lincoln.
In this critical situation the Head of the Russian Naval Ministry vice-admiral N.K. Krabbe suggested Alexander II to carry out an operation targeting on war prevention and collapse of the Anti-Russian coalition.
The main idea of the mission was sending of two Russian naval squadrons to USA western and eastern ports. In case of war these task forces have to act along sea routs and against enemy colonies in Atlantic, Pacific and Indian oceans. At the same time this action gave a significant moral and military support to the government of Lincoln.
The positive result of the mission depended much on the secrecy of the whole plan. The risk of the information flow could lead to possible sea fight between Russian unites and ships of UK and France just upon leaving the Baltic Sea. That is why only high ranking persons knew about the operation.
Rear-admiral S.S. Lesovski was appointed as a Head of the Atlantic squadron, including: screw frigates “Alexander Nevski”, Peresvet”, “Oslyabya”, corvettes: “Varyag”, “Vityaz” and clipper “Almaz”. Preparations took about one month. In order to keep the secrecy of the mission it was told that the squadron is going to leave for a 2 years voyage for Mediterranean Sea and Pacific Ocean.
It was a first Russian naval squadron consisting of seal-steam ships. Admiral Lesovski was in a hurry. They passed the Baltic sea very fast. The underway replenishment was done in the western part of the Baltic Sea from two transports deployed in this region earlier. On July 25 the squadron entered the North sea. In order to escape the engagement with British-French naval forces admiral Lesovski decided to enter Atlantic Ocean to the north of British islands. He was full of strong intentions.
“The Admiral will open the fire if the Head of the foreign squadron which we could meet in the open sea will make any hurting the honor of our flag offer” wrote Lisovski in the instructions to commanding officers of ships. After entering the Atlantic Ocean due to difference in the ocean-going characteristics of units Rear-Admiral Lisovski ordered the ships to go to New-York independently.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:57
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Later on I shall post further information.
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Old 15-11-2011, 22:35
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HMS Apollo visited St. Petersburg 1953ish, does anyone have photographs of her there.
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Old 16-11-2011, 19:49
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Hi Barry,

I try to locate what have asked for.
But now see the link re visit of HMS "Albion" to Saint-Petersburg ( a bit later ).

http://www.my-spb.ru/2007/05/31/angl...nanta-shmidta/
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Old 16-11-2011, 20:27
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Barry,

Here you are with some pics of HMS "Triumph" during her visit to Leningrad in 1955.
And if you will go to the link

http://www.net-film.ru/ru/film-10243/

and press the figure "1" (see below)

Скачать видео*
Часть:1


to download the video, you will see unique chronicles of that visit.
Good luck.
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Old 16-11-2011, 20:59
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I managed to find only mentioning of HMS "Apollo" participation in 1955 visit to Leningrad. No photoes are available at the moment.

Below is a pic of HMS "Triumph", carring Soviet Naval Flag on the mast.

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Old 17-11-2011, 00:01
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Hi Barry,

I try to locate what have asked for.
But now see the link re visit of HMS "Albion" to Saint-Petersburg ( a bit later ).

http://www.my-spb.ru/2007/05/31/angl...nanta-shmidta/

Great link, thanks very much, my brother was on the Apollo N01 Minelayer at the time, see my link under Dennis Lockyer in my signature
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Old 17-11-2011, 18:51
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I managed to find only mentioning of HMS "Apollo" participation in 1955 visit to Leningrad. No photoes are available at the moment.

Below is a pic of HMS "Triumph", carring Soviet Naval Flag on the mast.

Regards,
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I think we have had this picture in the forum before??

Anyway one other taken on the same trip to Russia.
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Old 18-11-2011, 09:49
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Great pics

Thnaks for sharing
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...Best to hear about Aurora from the Russians.
Right, let's hear it from the Russians.

According to "Bogini rossijskogo flota" (Goddesses of Russian Navy) by Viktor Novikov and Aleksandr Sergeev (published in 2009) the ship was in very bad shape by end of 1970s. In 1981 it was decided to replace whole underwater part of the hull - despite protests of some naval historians.
Work began in August 1984 in dry dock where the underwater part of hull (referred to as "bottom part" by the shipyard) was cut away, to be replaced by new hull, welded of steel plates 25-30 mm thick. The upper part of the hull was cut into four and lifted away for reconstruction, together with one (stern) steam engine.
Then "bottom part" was floated out of dry dock and put on slipway. There the armour deck and fittings were cut away. Fore and aft parts of hull were also cut away and replaced by bulkheads.
Remaining part proved to be 85 meters long, 7,5 m high from keel and displaced ca. 2000 t. It as towed away to scrapping site; later - as more and more people became interested in such unusual piece of Russian history - it was towed further out and scuttled in shallow water to keep it off sight.
New hull was laid down on 21 February 1985. In summer the renewed steam engine was fitted together with full-scale models of two Belleville-Dolgolenko boilers. Then the armour deck was put on place and by the end of 1985 the original, old fore and aft parts were welded to new hull, followed by four parts of upper hull. The "bottom" was launched in April 1987 and fitted with superstructures, funnels and masts. Later the interiors were reconstructed "as built": aftermost engine room, steering engine compartment, one of sailors' accomodation spaces, CO's lounge. officers' wardroom and passageway in officers' quarters. The conning radio, chart and pilot rooms were fitted as in 1917.
Much of deck equipment had to be made new, including whole anchor gear, ship's boats or AA guns.

The above is only a summary of the Russian text, not word-to-word translation. I would be grateful to Russian-speaking memebers of this Forum for any corrections.
Also I would like to know if old armour deck and superstructures were fitted onto new hull (as I suspect happened) or were made anew.

After reading the above mentioned book I came to opinion that there was no other way to save the ship. Whole underwater part was plastered with thick cement and the cost of tearing it away would be enormous. Moreover, after removing the cement the plates would prove too thin and it would be necessary to replace them anyway if the ship was to remain afloat.
Russians managed to save as much of original ship as possible (ie. fore and aft parts of hull) and got a ship that can last few hundred years more and looking much, much better than before. There are many things that could be done better (ie. visible weld marks, wrong shape of 6" guns shields), but such things happen and can be made right in future.
Fate of old "bottom part" is a shame, of course.

I may also add that the ship was saved in last moment possible. If she was taken to shipyard three or four years later the collapse of Soviet Union would leave her without funding and it could be possible she'd be quietly broken up. And THAT would be real tragedy.
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Another view of the x-Lutzow seen in post #36; note that no turrets or guns are left on her........DFO
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Here is a short film about UK naval units visit to Leningrad in 1955.

http://www.aparchive.com/metadata/BR...ge=41&b=237a36
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Here is a short film about UK naval units visit to Leningrad in 1955.

http://www.aparchive.com/metadata/BR...ge=41&b=237a36
Many thanks, I looked for my brother Dennis on the Apollo, but I didn't see him.
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On the way to Saint-Petersburg in Danish straits. Both ships will take part in the Main Navy Parade this Sunday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOPz-mJAs6w
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