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Old 31-08-2009, 01:10
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Jim7966...........I howled with laughter at the part in HMS Leviathan, where someone operated lift during commissioning ceremony, and the "Devil Dodgers" (Padres) descended to the depths!
That was pretty funny. If you pick up The Tinfish Run by Ronald Bassett you'll get a laugh as well.
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That is what I said Jim! Has anybody read the Alexander Fullerton WW1 and WW2 novels detailing the career of Nicholas Everard?
Yes I have brilliant reading, highly recommend you get them.

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For those that don’t know, James Edmond Macdonnell was one the most prolific naval writers in Australia. He served in the Royal Australian Navy before, during and after WW2, climbing up through the hawspipe from ordinary seaman to officer in the gunnery branch. This experience of both lowerdeck and wardroom provided invaluable insight into his fictional characters.
I have over sixty of his books and I still reread them. A favourite would be Big Bill The Bastard about a Commander after be dismissed from his destroyer for drunkenness, ignored by his fellow officers, he pestered the naval hierarchy to give him another ship. They did an old and worn out ship and a bunch of misfits who manned her. His job was to work up his ship to fighting efficiency in time to participate in the American invasion of Tarawa Island.
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Old 19-09-2009, 09:55
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Jackaroo..............Havn't read ALL of J E MacDonnell's books, but read a goodly few, brilliant author.
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Jack you quoted from my post #9 concerning Fullertons books. If you had read post #16 you will see that I did read his first three Everard books and that on balance I was less than impressed!!

His detailed knowledge of both Warships and life in the RN, was fine.

Sadly he did not also seem to have the ability to write exciting naval fiction.!
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Hi Everyone

I must mention the work of Brian Calisson particularly the excellent Flock of Ships
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Having read and own all of Reeman's books as well as the Alexander Kent novels I have to admit I am a fan. I have read most of the other authors mentioned except for Patrick O'Brian so I am reading this thread with interest, I will however get round to them. One good author not mentioned so far is John Winton who's books I found to be worth reading.
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Old 04-11-2009, 21:31
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Bid Al..................reference John Winton............oh yes his books have been mentioned - my posts 46 & 49 refer.
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Jackaroo is currently reading......Clive Clusser.....CORSAIR......

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I love Clive Cussler - have read everything he's ever written and learned a great deal of my ship lore from his books and his Sea Hunters series. I actually just finished his novel "Medusa" and it was because of Mr. Cussler that I learned about the US/British coverup of the sinking of the Belgian Troopship, the Leopoldville. As Mr. Cussler said in the front of his novel "Forgotten by many, Remembered by few".

He also has two non-fiction novels that cover some of the ships he and his Sea Hunter crew have found - gee that might explain why they are called Sea Hunters, and Sea Hunters 2.

On a different note - I am desperately trying to find a novel called "Dreadnoughts Curse" dealing with the sinking of the Admiral Graf Spee. I tried to order it through my library and was told it couldn't be found - go figure. Has anyone read this book or heard of it and give me an honest opinion?

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"Dreadnought's Revenge" by H H Hoyt is offered on ABE Books...tons of them available. Hope this helps...

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Thank you so much.

I couldn't understand why the library couldn't get it through interlibrary loan, it's not that old a book. I'll go to the local book store as soon as I can.

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Old 23-02-2010, 23:30
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Has anybody mentioned Nicholas Monsarrat, yet. Half the films made in the 1950s were based on his books. Das Boot is also a good read, even if it is from the other side of the fence.

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Old 23-02-2010, 23:48
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Having read most of the authors mentioned so far in this thread the really sad thing is that when I was about 20 I read a really breathtakingly exciting book about a WW2 RN destroyer or corvette badly shot up in Pacific and then trying to hide from the Japs in a Pacific Island. It was on par with HMS Ulyses and the Cruel Sea and had as much action as any Reeman. The trouble is I am 56 now and cannot remember either the name of the book or its author!!

Ring a bell with anyone??

It is no exaggeration to say that this book did more to influence my subsequent interest in warships than perhaps anything else!
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Old 24-02-2010, 11:00
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Terry.............yes, read it..............many moons ago, and I'm 68 so I can't remember the name of book or author either........it was a Destroyer I believe, survivor from Battle of Java Sea.
Thought name of ship was "E" Class............"Encounter, Enterprise, Emerald........" something like that. I was a teenager when I read it so must have been published 1950-60..............but name of it????????
Ive exhausted all the authors I can think of in a futile "google" search.
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Old 24-02-2010, 12:59
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Sounds similar to South by Java Head by Alistair Macclean
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Old 24-02-2010, 15:23
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Tigercat....no mate, definitely not that.............I'm wondering if it was by that prolific Australian author J.E.MacDonnell?
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Old 24-02-2010, 17:03
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Scurs my friend - you have DONE IT!!

You are a GENIUS - if I were to come up with a poster of the month award you would have just WON it!!

Your helpful name suggestions were all it took for it to jog the name from my memory that I have been trying to find for literally AGES!!!

Of course it was a fictitious E-Class Destroyer - HMS EURYDICE!!!

and armed now with the correct title I have found out of course who the author was - quite a famous writer of many a WW1 and WW2 classic such as GUNBUSTER and PINCHER MARTIN, etc.

He often wrote under the pen name TAFFRAIL although his real name was
[Capt] Henry Taprell Dorling.

As Ray [Scurs] has mentioned - if you want a cracking good WW2 naval war story on par with CRUEL SEA and HMS ULYSSES then look no further than HMS EURYDICE by TAFFRAIL.

I have yet to find out how easy it is to obtain but rest assured I will be doing so! [cant wait to read it again after all these years!].



Thanks again Ray - between us we did it!!
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Old 24-02-2010, 18:01
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I dont know if any of you have ever seen an internet site called the Nautical Fiction List but if not I include a link to it here.

http://www.boat-links.com/books/nfl/...-01.html#index

If not then give it a look as it is choc full of good ideas for good naval fiction [If I had looked at it before I found it just now, I would have uncovered Eurydice years ago!!!]

Anyway as I rate this book so much I have listed some other books Taffrail has written [taken from the Nautical List].

I intend to try and track down some of them as well!!!



Dorling, Henry Taprell (Taffrail, Entered the RN in 1897. Took part in the
relief of Peking. During WW I he served on destroyers and minelayers,
mainly in the North Sea, and was awarded the DSO in 1918. He retired from
the navy in 1929, though was recalled during WW II as a propagandist in the
Minstry of Information.[From a TIMES obituary])
Pincher Martin, O.D, a story of the inner life of the Royal Navy, 1917
(WW I adventures.)
Pirates, 1929 (An account of British gunboats tackling piracy in the
Canton delta.)
Endless Story, 1931 (Destroyers in WW I)
Kerrell, 1931 (First lieutenant of a destroyer in action in the North Sea
and with the Dover Patrol in WW I. Good substantial naval action
story.)
Cypher K, 1932 (A book for older boys, The latest cypher is stolen from a
RN cruiser and a retired naval officer in his sailing yacht manages to
retrieve it.)
The Scarlet Stripe, 1932 (Naval surgeon adrift in life-boat with 22 men
after their Q ship is sunk by U-boat in WW I.)
Dover-Ostend, 1933 (A cross-channel thriller. Piracy in the English
Channel is resolved by a naval officer. Included are charts so the
reader can follow the action which involves lots of coastal cruising
aboard the officer's yacht.)
Seventy North, 1934 (Plenty of statistics and social history are
interestingly incorporated into a readable story involving a Hull
trawler fishing in the arctic prior to WW II. Although written in the
style of the day, reading the book now graphically illustrates how the
importance and impact of fishing on the community has been eroded
today.)
Second Officer, 1935 (Gives the reader an accurate picture of the
pleasant side of life in the Merchant Navy of the day. (unlike MID
ATLANTIC?) Large general cargo ships voyage London - Panama - Pacific
to New Zealand with adventures on the way.)
Mid Atlantic, 1936 (With this story the author takes up the cudgels on
behalf of the merchant seamen of Great Britain during the Depression.
Sailing aboard an ill-found tramp the unfailing courage and heroic
tenacity of her people fail to save her after steering failure in
severe weather. Plenty of technical, social and background detail.)
Operation M.O., 1938 (Naval Intelligence track down and recover stolen
state secrets, with the aid of the Royal Navy, from a merchantman off
the Danish coast in this pre-war spy thriller. Really only 25%
nautical.)
Fred Travis AB, 1939 (Naval action off the Spanish coast during the
Spanish Civil War.)
Chenies, 1943 (Two serving officers of the above name in the Royal Navy
in the early years of WW2. Destroyer patrol, convoy duties, bad
weather, U-boats and torpedoed ships combine to make a patriotic yarn.
As the blurb says, Taffrail's first novel of the navy in action in
WW2.)
Eurydice, 1954? (The Royal Navy destroyer HMS EURYDICE, badly damaged and
only just afloat, survives the battle of the Java Sea and by evading
the omnipresent Japanese Navy, survives to seek shelter at a small
island in the Japanese dominated Eastern Archipelago. She can not
remain undisturbed for long and the story unfolds with the attention to
detail one expects from this author.)
Arctic Convoy, 1956 (A story strongly based on fact. The Arctic convoys
to North Russia from the perspective of a young officer serving in a
destroyer.)
Sketches and Stories:
Carry On, 1916
Stand By, 1917
Off Shore, 1917
Sea Spray and Spindrift, 1917
Minor Operations, 1917
The Watch Below, 1918
A Little Ship, 1918
HMS Anonymous, 1919
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Old 24-02-2010, 20:38
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Glad to have been of assistance Terry!

Published 1954?, that would tie in as I probably read it in 1955 or 56...........aged 13 or 14! Taffrail eh? Never thought of him!

More recently, a couple I would HIGHLY recommend Terry:-

"The Battle of the April Storm" - Larry Forrester (loosely based on Gloworm v Hipper).
"The Good Ship Venus" - John Winton (Portland work-up and the first mixed sex crewed ship).
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Thanks again Ray. I have read the Winton book but not the first one you mentioned.

I will look out for it.
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I have considered if I should put this in and decided that if you all did not like it you could remove it and hopefully I will repent and be forgiven.
There is a series of books starting with "1632" by Eric Flint. These are about a town in the West Virgina coal mining area that gets transported from the 20th century to the year 1632 in Germany. That is the only thing I would call science fiction in the whole series. It should be historical fiction.
Anyway, eventially they join with King Gustav of Sweden in the 30 years war and have to adapt the modern knowledge to the existing envernment including building a navy. ( there is a retired USN officer caught in the town for his sons wedding). It is interesting how they come up with ideas to build ironclads and steam power with the local resources. I think if you give it a try you will find it very interesting.
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I have read numerous Naval books both fiction and non-fiction.I have thoroughly enjoyed the Hornblower Novels of C.S. Forrester.Also the Alexander Kent (Douglas Reeman) Novels of the Richard Bolitho series,but recently I have come across a new Naval Fiction Author. His name is John Stack.I have just finished reading the second of a trilogy of books.They are set in the time of the Punic Wars,between Rome and Carthage.The Theme is Roman Galleys and of Romes attempt to overcome the mighty Carthaginian Navy. They are a well recommended read,and vivdly tell of the life on board such ships at this time.The titles are "Ship of Rome" and "Captain of Rome". The third has yet to be published...Regards Steve.
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I have read numerous Naval books both fiction and non-fiction.I have thoroughly enjoyed the Hornblower Novels of C.S. Forrester.Also the Alexander Kent (Douglas Reeman) Novels of the Richard Bolitho series,but recently I have come across a new Naval Fiction Author. His name is John Stack.I have just finished reading the second of a trilogy of books.They are set in the time of the Punic Wars,between Rome and Carthage.The Theme is Roman Galleys and of Romes attempt to overcome the mighty Carthaginian Navy. They are a well recommended read,and vivdly tell of the life on board such ships at this time.The titles are "Ship of Rome" and "Captain of Rome". The third has yet to be published...Regards Steve.
Steve,

Glad you enjoyed Hornblower. You may be interested to hear that the "C S Forester" Society, with a particular interest in Hornblower, is alive and well!
They are arranging to fire a Nelson era cannon at Fort Nelson - hope it will not make too much noise where you are!!
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Hi Invincible.The bang should be plenty loud enough here.I just hope its only a blank charge and that they dont load it with ball.It would just about reach my place from the Armouries Regards Steve.
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