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Old 25-03-2012, 07:26
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Default Is this IJNS Izumo?

Is anyone able to confirm that this is the Japanese Armoured Cruiser Izumo? Izumo was in the Mediterranean for much of WW1, but in Dec 1918 she went to Scapa Flow in company with the destroyers Hinoki and Yanagi to help guard the High Seas Fleet. She then escorted seven captured U-boats to Japan.
In January 1919 Izumo visited Portland (UK).

These shots come from this Pathe clip: http://www.britishpathe.com/video/japanese-flotilla

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Old 25-03-2012, 22:08
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Is anyone able to confirm that this is the Japanese Armoured Cruiser Izumo? Izumo was in the Mediterranean for much of WW1, but in Dec 1918 she went to Scapa Flow in company with the destroyers Hinoki and Yanagi to help guard the High Seas Fleet. She then escorted seven captured U-boats to Japan.
In January 1919 Izumo visited Portland (UK).

These shots come from this Pathe clip: http://www.britishpathe.com/video/japanese-flotilla

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Or perhaps the YAKUMO?
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Old 26-03-2012, 07:09
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I agree very similar, but as far as I can ascertain, Yakumo did not go to Europe. The Pathe clip appears to be in England, which does rather limit it to Izumo. The European aspect also rules out Izumo's sister Iwate.
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Old 26-03-2012, 08:06
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I agree very similar, but as far as I can ascertain, Yakumo did not go to Europe. The Pathe clip appears to be in England, which does rather limit it to Izumo. The European aspect also rules out Izumo's sister Iwate.
I think it is YAKUMO - it does not look like an "Idzumo" Class ship (and are you sure it is England?).
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Old 26-03-2012, 09:24
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Izumo had casement-mounted secondary guns mounted in bulges that protruded out from her hull sides... this photo does not have those.

She also did not have a casement-mounted gun forward of her fore twin turret.

Furthermore, she had two anchors on her starboard bow and only one on her port bow.


Yakumo does have such a casement-mounted gun in a bulge in the bow, as well as two anchors in her port bow, and flush-mounted hull-side casement-mounted guns.
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Old 27-03-2012, 09:02
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I'll go with Yakumo. I was captured by a report in a local paper announcing Idzumo's arrival in Portland (UK) in early 1919 that I put 2 and 3 together and got 6!

One further challenge - are the two ships in the clip the same? The one viewed from the port quarter appears to have only two funnels. Close investigation of the stills at 1 - 6 and 22-25 show a different foremast to the ship in stills 7-16.

Thanks for your help.
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Old 27-03-2012, 10:15
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I'll go with Yakumo. I was captured by a report in a local paper announcing Idzumo's arrival in Portland (UK) in early 1919 that I put 2 and 3 together and got 6!

One further challenge - are the two ships in the clip the same? The one viewed from the port quarter appears to have only two funnels. Close investigation of the stills at 1 - 6 and 22-25 show a different foremast to the ship in stills 7-16.

Thanks for your help.


The ship which appears briefly, viewed from astern, appears to be an "Asama" Class armoured cruiser.
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Bingo. Thanks.

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Yakumo and Iwate visited Vancouver in the early 1920s. Vancouver would have had British Press available at the time.
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