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Old 20-09-2017, 12:07
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Thank your for brightening my day Gruntfuttock. How the world has moved on in the last 22 years!

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Old 20-09-2017, 13:23
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Thank your for brightening my day Gruntfuttock. How the world has moved on in the last 22 years!

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Your welcome. Now if the carrier bags also carried a logo, such as 'sponsored by Tesco' the RN would be onto a winner. Loads a money.

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Old 20-09-2017, 14:39
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I'm going on a harbour tour on Saturday to see her. Hope the weather is nice.
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Old 21-09-2017, 17:23
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A VIDEO AND AN IMAGE

HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH - from first block to first entry into Portsmouth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=kEaCKWvTUSc

Attached - May 2012 when the 6000 tonne section known as Lower Block 02 sailed from Portsmouth.
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Old 23-09-2017, 22:38
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It would appear that the person who landed a small drone on the QE, did the RN a favour. Certainly seems to have shaken things up at the MOD.

https://www.contractsfinder.service....jJNT08=UFQxUlR
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Old 25-09-2017, 17:42
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FOR INFO ~ THE TALE OF TWO ISLANDS

The Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carriers are the first carriers to incorporate a twin island design, which separates the running of the ship from the flying operations resulting in greater visibility of operations and increases survivability. There are live communication links between the two islands however to allow them to work together.

The advantages of the unique design include the more efficient use of space across the flight deck, hangar and lifts, as well as the reduction in air turbulence over the flight deck.

The twin island design also reflects design improvements further below deck, including the decision to separate power generation machinery in order to increase survivability. There are two sets of power propulsion systems (a gas turbine and two diesel engines), located in different areas of the ship separated by watertight doors. This means there are also two exhaust stacks, one forward and one aft, which are masked within the twin islands. Survivability is increased further by the islands being designed with the capability to assume each otherís role in an emergency.

The forward island has a good view of the shipís bow and is home to the Navigation Bridge from where the ship is controlled. The island is also home to the Commanding Officerís Day Cabin, Chart Room, Navigatorís Cabin, Observation Deck, Bridge Mess and around 100 vital mission systems compartments. The floor-to-ceiling windows of the main bridge are up to two metres high, providing an exceptional level of visibility, yet designed to withstand a significant impact. The Long Range Radar and other sensors are installed on top of the 680 tonne structure.

The aft island serves as the carrier's equivalent of an airport control tower, effectively directing flight deck operations on the ship. The innovative FLYCO position provides operators with an unparalleled operational working space with three metre tall specially glazed panels, giving more than 290 degrees of view over the flight deck. Like the forward islandís windows, these are designed to withstand a significant impact. The FLYCO is also closely linked to the shipís operations room, navigation bridge, flight deck and hangar operations centre.

As each of the islands were built in different parts of the country, transporting them for final assembly was an engineering challenge in itself.

The islands had to pass a Ministry of Defence audit on all compartments and a full care and protection inspection to ensure the blocks were weather proof and able to undertake the sea journey to Rosyth. Additionally, a transportation team spent around four days ensuring the structures were fully secured to the barge, before setting sail for the east coast of Scotland.

The islands were lifted into position on the flight deck by the massive Goliath crane, with special lifting frames attached for the purpose. After attaching the crane to the lifting frame, the predicted centre of gravity had to be confirmed by applying a small amount of lift. After some adjustments, the crane was able to take the full weight of the islands, lifting them over the carrierís flight deck and locating them in their final position. They were then welded onto the shipís hull.

Although far from the heaviest lift of the project, the geometry and shape of the islands presented significant challenges. The alignment of the gas turbine exhausts was particularly challenging as they were pre-fitted into the islands and below into the shipís superstructure. The placements of the islands were significant and a highly visible achievement in the assembly programme of both HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales as the shipís iconic design took shape for the first time.

Watch back to when HMS Prince of Walesí aft island arrived at Rosyth from Govan and was lifted into place.

See - http://www.aircraftcarrieralliance.c...017/25-09-2017 - for photos and video.
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Old 25-09-2017, 22:22
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The UK's carriers have two islands, well I never, that must be the scoop of a lifetime.
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Old 26-09-2017, 04:48
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As far as I admire modern comms equipment, my memory of carrier ops from the bridge perspective was one of CMDR Air/Little F constantly coming on to the bridge to brief the CO, or being summoned to explain something to the CO. The personal interaction always seemed important, particularly in the latter case. I wonder how they'll get on now - maybe it's a case of designing to ensure that Wings's waistline doesn't expand!
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:21
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THE INTEGRATED MISSION SYSTEM

One of the primary challenges for the crew on board the Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carriers is to manage the information flowing into, around, and from the ship, and to integrate it with its aircraft, platforms in the UK Carrier Strike Group and other joint and combined force elements. With a ship’s company of around 700 and overall manning of up to 1600 (when including air group and other embarked personnel) spread throughout a large ship, challenges can arise in managing the flow of information. With an emphasis on rapid decision-making within a crew optimised to deliver the carrier’s mission, there is a high reliance on the effective use and accurate sharing of information via a robust, straightforward and effective networked information structure. At the core of this complicated capability lies the Integrated Mission System.

The mission system is best described as being the integration of three capabilities. The first area is known as the “real-time systems area.” This covers: command management; management of sensors; and meteorological and navigational systems. The real-time systems area has at its core the combat management system, and includes meteorological and navigational systems, radar systems, including for detection and air traffic control, the identification friend or foe and direction-finding systems, the tactical navigation system that enables aircraft to locate the carrier, visual surveillance systems within the ship and on the flight deck, and small weapons.

Second, the mission system incorporates the ship’s communication systems. This is every form of communication on and off board. Internal communications cover everything from desk phones to intercoms to wireless communications. External communications cover systems and assets sending information off the ship; this encompasses data, video, and voice – everything from HF upwards to satellite frequencies. Equipment here includes broadcast and alarm systems, tactical communications, and other systems required to connect to the command team as well as the wireless communications that allow freedom of movement and efficient communication for the crew on board.

For the first time on a Royal Navy aircraft carrier the Queen Elizabeth Class will be making extensive use of wireless communications throughout the vessel. Previously if a member of the Ship’s Company needed to be contacted, for example by the duty watch or because someone had received a phone call, the message would be ‘piped’ or summoned over the main broadcast system. This adds to what can already be a very noisy environment around the ship. Having the wireless communications will significantly reduce the number of pipes made as the Officer of the Day, duty watch and other key personnel will carry radios allowing them to communicate easily with less disruption caused to the rest of the Ship’s Company.

The third element is the ship’s information systems. As well as individual systems, this third element includes the networked infrastructure that integrates all the sensors, communications, and other elements, and also brings together the mission planning and data exploitation applications that enable the carrier to conduct its missions.

The information systems are connected by a fibre-optic network. The network includes the Defence Information Infrastructure, which enables the crew to interact on anything from personnel and medical records through to logistics and stores. There is also an Air Group Management Application, which manages aircraft movement within and between the hangar and flight deck spaces and integrates data such as aircraft serviceability, piolet availability, and weapons status. These information systems also include planning tools, decision aids, imagery exploitation systems, and specialist applications that enable the embarked aircraft to conduct their missions.

Continues at - http://www.aircraftcarrieralliance.c...017/02-10-2017
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Old 04-10-2017, 21:34
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Q.E.

Today engineers have been Setting to Work the Information Displays aka Flight Arrival & Departure Boards

See - https://twitter.com/HMSQnlz/status/915603423915069440
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Old 05-10-2017, 22:11
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How soon things do change, now the carriers get the blame for more proposed cuts to the RN. :-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41511790


Only a couple of months ago we were told " 2017 the year of the Royal Navy "
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Old 06-10-2017, 10:56
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Work boat SEA VIXEN

See - https://twitter.com/HMSQnlz/status/916187807948988418
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Old 08-10-2017, 02:41
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BAE wins a support contract for the carriers.
http://seapowermagazine.org/stories/20171006-BAE.html
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Old 08-10-2017, 08:18
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BAE wins a support contract for the carriers.
http://seapowermagazine.org/stories/20171006-BAE.html
Well there's a surprise,NOT.
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Old 09-10-2017, 08:20
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I have never read such unadulterated BS in my life, who on earth writes this garbage :-

"Among the plans disclosed by the Daily Mail is the deployment of the Navy's newest aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, before it has undergone flight trials.

"We have plenty of ships to send… the Type-45 destroyers, the Type-23 frigates. Britain’s new aircraft carrier could be pressed into service early if things turn south," a senior Whitehall source told the newspaper."



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ushed-service/

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Old 10-10-2017, 07:21
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Yes I read this stuff as well via Microsoft News (MSN).
If it has come to this then we as a country really are in dire straits.

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Old 10-10-2017, 09:04
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The media have already ruined the country. We lurch from one lame duck government to another while the population is brain washed into believing what the Daily Fail prints.
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Old 10-10-2017, 09:08
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Had a splendid harbour tour of Portsmouth the other week. The carrier is epic in scale. The docks seemed busy, four T45's, three T23's Diligence destoring and host of other minor craft. Not busy compared to the old days but...
I have a lot of photos but they're too large to upload on here.

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Old 10-10-2017, 12:48
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