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Old 04-04-2012, 14:03
chris bowden chris bowden is offline
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Default Two Airmen on HMS Glorious

My Father in Law is trying to identify the 2 airmen he took a photo of on board HMS Glorious on its final return form Norway in 1940. Photo marked onback "taken on way back form Norway of Tony and Jack"
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Old 07-04-2012, 23:20
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Default Re: 2 Airmen on HMS Glorious

If the photo was taken on the final return from Norway, both men were likely killed that same day. Your Father in Law took the photo ? He must have been one of the lucky few who survived.
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Old 29-06-2013, 06:29
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Chris;

I cannot help you ID the men in the picture. However, I can give you the full names of all the aircrew on HMS Glorious during her last foray to Norway from which she returned - it happens to be the exact same list from the foray before that too. The two voyages lasted from 9-23 May and 24-30 May 1940.

802 Squadron, FAA: 6 Sea Gladiator
Pilots: 10
Lt. John Filmer Marmont, RN (OC)
Lt. Guy Desmond D’Esterre Lyver, RN (SP)
Lt. Nicholas Edward Ward, RN (P&A/O)
Lt. David Neil Hamilton Ogilvie, RN
Lt.(A) George Hermann Joseph Feeny, RN
Lt.(A) Reginald Joseph Braithwaite Miles, RN
Capt. Richard John William Nott, RM
Capt. John Richard Owens, RM
A/S-Lt.(A) John Leslie Appleby, RN
PO(A) Richard Thomas Leggott, RN, Fx.76491

823 Squadron, FAA: 6 Swordfish I [G4C, G4F, G4G, G4H, G4Q, G4R]
Pilots: 6
Lt. John Lennox Hallewell, RN (SP)
Lt. Garth Starkey, RN [16/06/36]
S-Lt.(A) George Peter Ritchie, RN
S-Lt.(A) James Henry Radclift, RN
A/S-Lt.(A) Ian Murray MacLachlin, RN
Observers: 6
Lt.Cdr. Charles John Thompson Stephens, RN (O-OC)
Lt. Stephen Frank Wythes Hebblethwaite, RN (O)
A/S-Lt.(A) John Michael Franklin, RN (O)
T/S-Lt.(A) Jack Frederick Shillitoe, RNVR (A/O)
Mid.(A) Eric Baldwin, RN (A/O) [16/01/39]
A/PO(A) Edward Henry Puntis, RN F.55054 (O)
Telegraphist-Air-Gunners: 9
LA Basil Brett, RN Fx.82386
A/LA Alexander Williamson Crichton, RN Fx.79430
A/LA Joseph Heath, RN Fx.77507
A/LA William Henry Hill, RN Fx.76375
LA Joseph Houldsworth, RN Fx.76362
LA Patrick McNeill McLellan, RN Fx.76382
NA1 William Herbert Burns, RN Fx.79432
NA1 Donald C. Morton, RN Fx.77512
NA Vernon Robert McBride, RN Jx.151600

I hope this helps.

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Old 29-06-2013, 18:24
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Default Re: 2 Airmen on HMS Glorious

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If the photo was taken on the final return from Norway, both men were likely killed that same day. Your Father in Law took the photo ? He must have been one of the lucky few who survived.
Also: where in/on Glorious could the photo have been taken? From the photos of her, it looks like she had wire life-lines rather than solid bulwarks on all her weather decks.
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Old 06-07-2013, 20:39
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They could be RAF. I expect you know about this website dedicated to Glorious, Ardent and Acasta, but here's the link for anyone interested in finding out more about the tragic event...

http://www.glarac.co.uk/

All those who were lost and the survivors are listed and there are also photographs.

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