World Naval Ships Forums  
CURRENT SPECIAL OFFERS ON OUR HUGE SELECTION OF ART PRINTS!

Go Back   World Naval Ships Forums > Naval History > Canadian Ships and Crews
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Canadian Ships and Crews Topics relating to a specific Canadian ship or ships.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 30-03-2012, 01:27
BlackBat242's Avatar
BlackBat242 BlackBat242 is offline
Vice-Admiral
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,588
Default V & Cr class destroyers

I find I am in need of information about these destroyers.

Specifically, their histories post-WW2, and the reason for converting one of each class into a Type-15 ASW frigate.

It would seem that it would have been better to have converted both of one class instead.


I have found some info, but it is sparse... especially for 1946-50 for both Crescent and Crusader.


Here is what I have now, any information beyond this would be greatly appreciated.

{photos would be nice as well }

Quote:
Algonquin was recalled on VJ-Day and left Alexandria, Egypt for Esquimalt Naval Base (Victoria, BC) on November 3. Once there she paid off into reserve on February 6, 1946. She remained in reserve until she was converted to a Type 15 ASW frigate in Esquimalt dockyard, before recommissioning 25 February 1953.
HMCS Algonquin

Sioux was paid off into reserve at Esquimalt on 27 Feb. 1947. After some modernization she was recommissioned in early 1950, and did three tours of duty in Korean waters, from 1950 to 1955. Afterward she resumed her training role until paid off at Halifax on October 30, 1963.
HMCS Sioux

Crescent was kept in commission after WW2, and based in Esquimalt. In March 1949, on a cruise to China, while in port in Nanjing, the lower decks staged what her Captain was careful to NOT call a "mutiny". Two other ships of the RCN (Magnificent & Athabaskan) experienced similar events at the same time.
It appears that she began her conversion to a Type 15 in Esquimalt dockyard not long after her return from China. She remained assigned to Esquimalt until 1957, when she was transferred to Halifax, Nova Scotia.
Data from Wiki and scattered sources.

Crusader was also based in Esquimalt, and apparently kept in commission. She served in Korea as well. Afterwards Crusader was attached to the Naval Research Establishment (Dartmouth) c.1957/58 for VDS trials.
Data from scattered sources
__________________
Only a fool fights in a burning house. __ Jon A., Sgt USMC '81-'89; CV-61 USS Ranger '85-'87
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 30-03-2012, 02:32
Brian Wentzell's Avatar
Brian Wentzell Brian Wentzell is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 2,301
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

Blackbat:

There is a lot of information available on these four ships. Algonquin and Crescent were converted, not identically, to a then modern ASW frigate design inspired by the UK Type 15 ships. Sioux was modernized by removal of her X and Y 4.7" mounts which were replaced by two Squid ASW mortars, somewhat similar to UK Type 16 frigates, themselves being destroyer conversions. Crusader after being crowned the top "Train Buster" in the Korean War served as a trials ship for the then highly secret towed variable depth sonar system. She received no modernization and was decommissioned in 1960 and scrapped in 1963. The VDS was transferred to Crescent for operational trials.

The basic technical summaries for the ships can be found in Jane's Fighting Ships 1963-64 and earlier. There are several other references which I will dig out.

Brian
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 30-03-2012, 03:04
Brian Wentzell's Avatar
Brian Wentzell Brian Wentzell is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 2,301
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

Blackbat: By sheer luck, I saw a post in the Photo Galleries tonight under the Frigate Conversions Type 15 thread. There is a good picture of Algonquin there along with bow shots of Algonquin and Crescent alongside. I have put a post on the thread pointing out some of the differences in the "sisters".
Brian
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 30-03-2012, 03:13
BlackBat242's Avatar
BlackBat242 BlackBat242 is offline
Vice-Admiral
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,588
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

Yes, I saw those.

The earliest post-WW2 Jane's I have access to is the 1964-65 edition, unfortunately.

Anything you can get me would really help.

Thanks for the info so far.
__________________
Only a fool fights in a burning house. __ Jon A., Sgt USMC '81-'89; CV-61 USS Ranger '85-'87
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 31-03-2012, 20:20
Brian Wentzell's Avatar
Brian Wentzell Brian Wentzell is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 2,301
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

Jon: Many of the references I have are out of print; however, there the following will give you a good sense of the history of the "V" and "Cr" classes in the RCN:

"Canada's Navy The First Century" by Marc Milner, Toronto, University of Toronto Press, 1999, ISBN 0-8020-4281-3. There is a second edition of this book with an additional chapter and it is likely the second edition that is currently available.

"The Naval Service of Canada 1910-1920 The Centennial Story" edtited by Richard H. Gimblett, Toronto, Dundurn Press, 2009, ISBN 978-1-55488-470-4. This volume and the Milner book should be readily available through Amazon or Chapters-Indigo.

"Canadian Naval Operations in Korean Waters 1950-1955" by Thor Thorgrimsson and E.C. Russell, Ottawa, Queen's Printer, 1965. This book details the exploits of HMC Ships Sioux and Crusader, and the Tribal Class, during that conflict. You might find a copy in a used book store in Vancover or Victoria, BC.

As I noted in my second post to the Photo Gallery: Frigate Conversions Type 15, the two full conversions and Sioux represented transitional ships in the transformation of the RCN from a general purpose navy to a specialised ASW fleet designed to counter the submarine threat of the Soviet Navy in the North Atlantic.

Good luck with your project and please let me know how it develops.

Brian
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-04-2012, 05:47
BlackBat242's Avatar
BlackBat242 BlackBat242 is offline
Vice-Admiral
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,588
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

Thank you.
__________________
Only a fool fights in a burning house. __ Jon A., Sgt USMC '81-'89; CV-61 USS Ranger '85-'87
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-04-2012, 22:02
Lee Day Lee Day is offline
Chief Petty Officer
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Toronto, On. Canada
Posts: 54
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

I served on CRUSADER Aug'57 to Oct'59. Captain was an ex fly-boy by the name of F. W. Bradley. Good Captain and a great ship.
Searched for a German sailing ship called PAMIR that sank off of the Canary Islands I believe. PAMIR was a Barque that was used to train midshipman in the German Navy. Regrettably no survivors. Crew was around 85 members. Search was conducted in conjunction with a USCGS ANTIETAM.
We went to Portsmouth for a 3 month refit to rig our VDS gear for exercises in Gibraltar with HM SUBMARINE TALLY HO. On the way was re-directed by Admiralty to proceed to the Irish Sea where a KLM Airliner "Hubert de Groot" had crashed. Over 95 people perished. Picked up remnants of the aircraft and a couple of bodies that we landed in Galloway Bay.
I have picture of CRUSADER but I'm not sure of how to get it to you. I know if you go to the RCN website that there is a listing of all Canadian navy ships and CRUSADER is posted.

Up spirits, stand fast.
Lee Day,
LSAW
RCN
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-04-2012, 23:06
Matelot Matelot is offline
Chief Petty Officer
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 50
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

You might be able to find something useful on this site.

http://jproc.ca/r17/index.html

I got to sail on both Crescent and Algonquin, though briefly. Was drafted to Crescent to take her to the West Coast in 67. Spent about a month on board getting her ready, day trips out of harbour etc. For some reason just before sailing, can't remember why, I was drafted "next door" to Algonquin. So set sail on her along with Crescent and Columbia for Esquimalt. Great Trip.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-04-2012, 01:43
Blackfly's Avatar
Blackfly Blackfly is offline
Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Eastern Canada
Posts: 231
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

I'm sure posting the pic of CRUSADER here would be appreciated. I know that I know very little about our Navy from WW2 to the time the Restigouche and St Laurants came along.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-04-2012, 08:50
BlackBat242's Avatar
BlackBat242 BlackBat242 is offline
Vice-Admiral
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,588
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Day View Post
I have picture of CRUSADER but I'm not sure of how to get it to you.
If you can scan it into your computer you can upload it here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Day View Post
I know if you go to the RCN website that there is a listing of all Canadian navy ships and CRUSADER is posted.

Up spirits, stand fast.
Lee Day,
LSAW
RCN

Which website is that? I can't seem to find any such list on the official RCN site, and I have no idea what other website you might be referring to.
__________________
Only a fool fights in a burning house. __ Jon A., Sgt USMC '81-'89; CV-61 USS Ranger '85-'87
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-04-2012, 21:15
Brian Wentzell's Avatar
Brian Wentzell Brian Wentzell is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 2,301
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

Jon: There are several things you can look at on the web. All of the RCN's Crowsnest magazines from 1948-1968 are on the RCN historical site. There are several stories and pictures of all four ships in these magazines.

In addition to the very good Jerry Proc site that another post made known to you there was a list of all RCN ships put together as part of the RCN centennial celebrations. You can get to that site through the Department of National Defence website http://www.forces.gc.ca -click on Navy on the menu bar on the left side of the page. You can drill down from there for history.

I have googled HMCS Crusader and a number of pictures turn up showing the VDS installation. There is little written about Crusader after the Korean War.

Brian
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-04-2012, 00:59
Brian Wentzell's Avatar
Brian Wentzell Brian Wentzell is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 2,301
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

Jon: Another site is Ready Aye Ready.com but that is the basic facts about Crusader and the standard starboard side picture of her as the VDS trials ship. There is similar info there for the other three ships as well.
Brian
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-04-2012, 05:15
BlackBat242's Avatar
BlackBat242 BlackBat242 is offline
Vice-Admiral
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,588
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Wentzell View Post
there was a list of all RCN ships put together as part of the RCN centennial celebrations. You can get to that site through the Department of National Defence website http://www.forces.gc.ca -click on Navy on the menu bar on the left side of the page. You can drill down from there for history.

I have googled HMCS Crusader and a number of pictures turn up showing the VDS installation. There is little written about Crusader after the Korean War.

Brian
Doing that just takes me to the official RCN site I mentioned earlier... and I still can't find any such list or photo gallery... despite following each section down several levels.

Either the list is really buried deep many layers down or the website is different for non-Canadian access.

Using the search function with a ship's name gets lots of links (many unrelated)... but all of them just give me a "405 error" when I try to access them.
__________________
Only a fool fights in a burning house. __ Jon A., Sgt USMC '81-'89; CV-61 USS Ranger '85-'87
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-04-2012, 10:16
Andy Waugh Andy Waugh is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 512
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

An article which might be of interest.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg a_Page_1.jpg (517.3 KB, 48 views)
File Type: jpg a_Page_2.jpg (975.1 KB, 33 views)
File Type: jpg a_Page_3.jpg (703.9 KB, 36 views)
File Type: jpg a_Page_4.jpg (1.04 MB, 14 views)
File Type: jpg a_Page_5.jpg (916.5 KB, 35 views)
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-04-2012, 11:30
Brian Wentzell's Avatar
Brian Wentzell Brian Wentzell is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 2,301
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

Jon: At the http://www.forces.gc.ca website, click on "Navy" and when that page opens click on "Links". Under "Links" click on "Canadian Navy Centennial". You then have access to a number of items, the most useful of which is probably the "Education" button which provides an extensive bibliography; however, the books with reference to Korea are likely the more useful.

When I use google search for "HMCS Crusader" the images for the ship are of interest. The pictures by D.R. Gorham will be of interest but he does not provide much context. He was obviously a crew member in the late 1950s.

One of my "incomplete", read "not started", projects has been to do a ship's history on HMCS Crusader. This would require a long visit to Ottawa and the Department of Heritage and History at the Department of National Defence.

Brian
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 03-04-2012, 11:48
Brian Wentzell's Avatar
Brian Wentzell Brian Wentzell is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 2,301
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

Gentlemen: The Michael Whitby article provides a good background to the participation of the RCN in Korea and, after the end of the Cold War, it remains a model for the conduct of operations in waters distant from Canada by general purpose combat ships.

One note on the images in the article. The first image cannot have been from 1948. The light grey paint on the hulls did not come until the mid 1950's. The image shows the two Tribals in the final configuration with the SPS 6 radar and large lattice mast.

Brian
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-04-2012, 13:23
BlackBat242's Avatar
BlackBat242 BlackBat242 is offline
Vice-Admiral
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,588
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

Brian... thanks for the article, and for the attempts at help, but I simply cannot extract any information on any individual ship from the RCN site, no matter how deep I go, or how many links I chase down.


Doing Google image search for "HMCS Crusader" turns up lots of images... by many different people, websites, and so on.

Googling his name and the ship name brings me to his Flikr site... all 2,087 images, which you have to scroll through one at a time to find what you are looking for.

I just don't have the time, so I saved the url for some time when I have nothing else to do.

Thanks again for the help, I appreciate it.
__________________
Only a fool fights in a burning house. __ Jon A., Sgt USMC '81-'89; CV-61 USS Ranger '85-'87
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-09-2012, 20:44
Scatari Scatari is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Gatineau, Quebec, Canada
Posts: 2,878
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

Jon:

Have just sent you a PM on this topic.

Cheers!
__________________
Tim
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 12-10-2012, 05:20
BlackBat242's Avatar
BlackBat242 BlackBat242 is offline
Vice-Admiral
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,588
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

I want to publicly thank Scatari for the copy of "Canadian Naval Operations in Korean Waters 1950-1955".

It arrived today, and I look forward to reading it.
__________________
Only a fool fights in a burning house. __ Jon A., Sgt USMC '81-'89; CV-61 USS Ranger '85-'87
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 12-10-2012, 05:27
Scatari Scatari is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Gatineau, Quebec, Canada
Posts: 2,878
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackBat242 View Post
I want to publicly thank Scatari for the copy of "Canadian Naval Operations in Korean Waters 1950-1955".

It arrived today, and I look forward to reading it.
You're more than welcome Jon - glad to see that it made it there.

Hope you enjoy it.
__________________
Tim
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 31-03-2013, 16:38
Scatari Scatari is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Gatineau, Quebec, Canada
Posts: 2,878
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackBat242 View Post
I want to publicly thank Scatari for the copy of "Canadian Naval Operations in Korean Waters 1950-1955".

It arrived today, and I look forward to reading it.
Jon:

Have just sent you a PM on the Canadian "V" and "CR" classes.
__________________
Tim
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 31-03-2013, 20:15
BlackBat242's Avatar
BlackBat242 BlackBat242 is offline
Vice-Admiral
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,588
Default Re: V & Cr class destroyers

And I have received & answered it.
__________________
Only a fool fights in a burning house. __ Jon A., Sgt USMC '81-'89; CV-61 USS Ranger '85-'87
Reply With Quote
Reply



Ship Search by Name : Advanced Search
Random Timeline Entry : 24th January 1934 : HMS Bryony : Sailed Villefranche for Naples

NAVAL PRINTS

Click above to see our naval art portal - Eight random half price items are displayed to the right.

Some Current Half Price Offers

 Forming part of the Eastern Task Force covering the landings at Normandy in June 1944, the cruiser HMS Mauritius is shown in company with the monitor HMS Roberts and the cruiser HMS Frobisher shelling German batteries at Merville, Houlgate and Benerville as the combined British and American forces embark upon what would become known forever as D-Day.

Operation Neptune by Ivan Berryman.
Half Price! - £15.00
B139P. HMS Royal Oak by Ivan Berryman. The R-class battleship Royal Oak lies at anchor in Scapa Flow between the wars ahead of her sisters Royal Sovereign and Revenge.  HMS Repulse is passing the line on the left of the picture
HMS Royal Oak by Ivan Berryman (P)
Half Price! - £500.00
 HMS Intrepid embarks some of her landing craft during the Falklands conflict of 1982.
HMS Intrepid by Ivan Berryman
Half Price! - £15.00
 Admiral von Spees Flagship SMS Scharnhorst leads SMS Gneisenau in the opening stages of engaging the Royal Naval ships east of the Falklands, 8th December 1914.

Battle of the Falkland Islands by Randall Wilson. (Y)
Half Price! - £75.00

February 1942 and Viz. Admiral Ciliaxs mighty Scharnhorst leads her sister Gneisenau and Prinz Eugen up the English Channel during Operation Cerberus, their daring breakout from the port of Brest on the French Atlantic coast to the relative safety of Wilhelmshaven and Brunsbuttel. All three ships survived what became known as the Channel Dash, not without damage, but the operation proved a huge propaganda success for Germany and a crushing embarrassment for the British. A number of torpedo boats are in attendance, including Kondor and Falke and the Z class destroyer Friedrich Ihn in the distance.

Operation Cerberus, Channel Dash by Ivan Berryman.
Half Price! - £15.00
 HMS Prince of Wales enters Valetta harbour, Malta.

Enter the Prince by Anthony Saunders. (Y)
Half Price! - £55.00
B61AP.  USS Oakland Escorting the Damaged USS Lexington by Ivan Berryman.
USS Oakland Escorting the Damaged USS Lexington by Ivan Berryman (AP)
Half Price! - £30.00
DHM1449. Tirpitz Passing Through Kiel Canal by Ivan Berryman.

Tirpitz Passing Through Kiel Canal by Ivan Berryman
Half Price! - £50.00

SPORT PRINTS

Click above to see our sport art portal - Four random half price items are displayed to the right.

Some Current Half Price Offers

David Coulthard driving the 1998 McLaren MP4/13.

The Silver Arrow by Ray Goldsbrough
Half Price! - £20.00


Jason Leonard by Robert Highton. (Y)
Half Price! - £80.00
SP4AP.  Desert Orchid by Mark Churms.

Desert Orchid by Mark Churms (AP)
Half Price! - £50.00
David Coulthard made his Grand Prix debut at the Spanish Grand Prix in 1994.  Only an electrical problem with his Williams Renault stopped Coulthard finishing 3rd in his first ever Grand Prix.  This performance was enough to confirm his potential and earn a drive for the 1995 season.  Winning at Estoril, on the podium at Interlagos, Magny-Cours, Silverstone, Hockenheim, Hungaroring and T I Aida, placed him third in the championship in his first full Grand Prix season.  Coulthard moved to McLaren for the 1996 season proving on many occasions that he could match the pace of team leader Mika Hakkinen, who has a reputation as one of the fastest.  For 1997, Coulthard took over the mantle of Britains No.1 driver and was well qualified to do so.  Winning at Melbourne and Monza, second at A1 Ring and Jerez.  Fourth in the championship prior to Schumachers exclusion.  Coulthard drives with a balance of flair and aggression which earned him considerable respect.  After nearly fifteen years as a top flight driver, Coulthard has now retired from driving, leaving a remarkable legacy behind him.  Twice winner of the British Grand Prix in 1999 and 2000, he has represented Scotland and Great Britain at the highest level of motorsport for well over a decade.

Tribute to David Coulthard by Stuart McIntyre
Half Price! - £23.00

AVIATION PRINTS

Click above to see our aviation art portal - Four random half price items are displayed to the right.

Some Current Half Price Offers

 A pair of Focke Wulf 190A4s of 9./JG2 Richthofen based at Vannes, France during February 1943. The nearest aircraft is that of Staffelkapitan Siegfried Schnell. The badge on the nose is the rooster emblem of III./JG2 and the decoration on Schnells rudder shows 70 of his eventual total of 93 kills.

Looking for Business by Ivan Berryman. (D)
Half Price! - £110.00
 The Short Stirling was the RAFs first four-engined bomber to enter service and it served throughout WWII in many roles including bomber, minelayer, troop carrier and glider-tug. The lack of power produced by its engines severely limited the loads carried by Stirlings. On long-range trips such as Italy, even with a greatly reduced bomb load the aircraft could barely clear the Alps. Despite very large losses due to its operational limitations, those that flew this big, agile aircraft, came to respect and look upon it with it with affection.

The Night Shift by Philip West. (Y)
Half Price! - £55.00
 Lancasters of 617 Sqn Dambusters get airborne from their Scampton base at the start of their journey to the Ruhr Valley on the night of 16th May 1943 under the codename Operation Chastise. These are aircraft of the First Wave, led by Wing Commander Guy Gibson, the Second Wave having already departed some ten minutes earlier to negotiate a more northerly route to their targets. On this momentous night, both the Möhne and Eder dams were successfully breached, whilst the Sorpe was also hit, but without serious damage. Of the nineteen aircraft that took part in the mission, eleven returned safely.

The Dambusters by Ivan Berryman. (Y)
Half Price! - £40.00
 Fw190A-4/U8 night bomber variant of SKG.10.

Focke Wulf Fw190A-4/U8 by Ivan Berryman.
Half Price! - £70.00

MILITARY PRINTS

Click above to see our military art portal - Four random half price items are displayed to the right.

Some Current Half Price Offers

 Men of the US 381st Infantry Regiment, 96th Division supported by the tanks of 763rd and 713th Flamethrower Tank Battalions, during the assault on Yaeju Dake. This escarpment, known as Big Apple was the last in a series of tough Japanese defence lines on the south of the Island.

Taking of Big Apple, Okinawa, 10th - 14th June 1945 by David Pentland. (Y)
Half Price! - £50.00
 General Major Erwin Rommel leads the vanguard of his vaunted 7th Panzer (Ghost) Division past an abandoned French Char B tank on its epic drive from the Ardennes to the English Channel.

Blitzkrieg, Northern France, May 1940 by David Pentland.
Half Price! - £50.00
 Vielsalm, Belgium, 22nd December 1944.  Men of the 508th PIR, along with the rest of the 82nd Airborne Division were rushed to the Ardennes and deployed in an attempt to halt the onslaught of 6th SS Panzer Army, specifically Kampfgruppe Peiper.

Holding the Line by David Pentland. (AP)
Half Price! - £95.00
 Bastogne, Ardennes, Belgium, 20th December 1944.  Newly arrived 81mm Mortars of 2nd Battalion, 506th PIR, 101st Airborne Division, fire in support of U.S. Paratroopers defending against German probes to the north of Bastogne.

Fire for Effect by David Pentland.
Half Price! - £70.00
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
RN Destroyers: K CLass Pedro Ruíz Royal Navy Ships and Crews 27 02-03-2013 14:53
RN Destroyers: W & Z Class alanbenn Photo Galleries 22 10-06-2011 23:12
RN Destroyers: L & M Class Chris Howat Royal Navy Ships and Crews 17 25-05-2011 15:42
RN Destroyers: S Class WW1 Rolf-guenter Photo Galleries 10 23-04-2010 16:34


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:37.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.