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wavering
14-03-2011, 20:51
Here she is leaving Gibraltar this morning (14th March 2011)
gfed
16-03-2011, 19:44
Here she is leaving Gibraltar this morning (14th March 2011)I'm a bit confused by her flag ceremonial. She is wearing a Royal Union Flag in honour of Commonwealth Day, but she should also be wearing a jack and have the RUF at the masthead. In this case she appears to be also wearing a national flag at the masthead as well as from the ensign staff. I believe the Manual of Ceremony also adds that it's only done in Canadian waters.
Blackfly
17-03-2011, 11:46
Her Jack is struck cause she is underway but it appears that the Ensign has been shifted to the sea position before they struck it aft.

Damn signallers.

Good luck crew...hope ya have a good trip and come home safe.
mollieg
17-03-2011, 16:46
One can not fully appreciate the scenario of the ship leaving Gibraltar as the photo only shows the ship and a tug. It would have been nice for the wind to blow out the flags more. Starting on the port yardarm from left to right you have the:
The Union Flag;
Flag Lima, meaning "stop instantly;
Code Hotel, meaning "pilot on board";
Flag Echo, meaning "I am altering course to starboard"; and
CHARLOTTETOWN's call sign, "CGAJ".

Hopefully this will make some sense. If it doesn't, I confess that I am an old sonarman.
gfed
17-03-2011, 22:29
Her Jack is struck cause she is underway but it appears that the Ensign has been shifted to the sea position before they struck it aft.

Damn signallers.

Good luck crew...hope ya have a good trip and come home safe.There are times when jacks are worn underway, such as for dress ship occasions and when escorting a ship wearing a royal standard.

In the Canadian Navy, with the amalgamation of Signalmen and Radiomen 15 years ago, flag ceremonial seems to have fallen off quite a bit.
gfed
17-03-2011, 22:51
One can not fully appreciate the scenario of the ship leaving Gibraltar as the photo only shows the ship and a tug. It would have been nice for the wind to blow out the flags more. Starting on the port yardarm from left to right you have the:
The Union Flag;
Flag Lima, meaning "stop instantly;
Code Hotel, meaning "pilot on board";
Flag Echo, meaning "I am altering course to starboard"; and
CHARLOTTETOWN's call sign, "CGAJ".

Hopefully this will make some sense. If it doesn't, I confess that I am an old sonarman.You're right, that is a Code Hotel, which I found a bit hard to tell at first glance. That being said, Lima is for "RADHAZ" and Echo is for "Rotating, but not Radiating", a bit contradictory if you ask me.
Blackfly
18-03-2011, 16:58
Not really...what is she radiating? Has radios also.
John.Cowan
19-03-2011, 07:31
G'day from down under;

Given the situation unfolding in Libya, isn't it more appropriate to concern ourselfs with what CHARLOTTETOWN is doing? Nobody dies because of ceremonial! Cheers!
Rob Stuart
19-03-2011, 09:52
CHARLOTTETOWN is participating in Operation MOBILE, "the Canadian Forces’ participation in the multinational response to the continuing crisis in Libya." Futher info is at http://www.comfec-cefcom.forces.gc.ca/pa-ap/ops/mobile/index-eng.asp.

There is a photo of the frigate leaving Halifax on 2 March at http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/feature-vedette/2011/02/_images/March-02B-2011.jpg and other Op MOBILE photos at http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?find&catalog=photos&site=combatcamera&field=Keywords&op=contains&value=LIBYA2011&sorton=IPTC%20-%20Date%20Created&ascending=0&template=results_eng.np&offset=36


Rob
gfed
19-03-2011, 15:36
G'day from down under;

Given the situation unfolding in Libya, isn't it more appropriate to concern ourselfs with what CHARLOTTETOWN is doing? Nobody dies because of ceremonial! Cheers!No, but you can get a few extra duties. ;)

I believe CHARLOTTETOWN is flopping around in the Med waiting for someone to decide on a mission, but perhaps I'm wrong. That being said, one of the strengths of naval forces is that they can be sent out the door and prepositioned while these things are hammered out.
CYLLA
19-03-2011, 15:48
Is she taking part in the "naval blocked " that is just taking part now ???re sky news . Libya crisis

cylla
Blackfly
19-03-2011, 17:02
Sure. The OP is what we are calling it. She will be involved in operations off the coast I am sure but you'll have to wait and see what the open source news / rumours / official military statements will be telling.

Yes, extra duties. I heard that the Buffer is looking for someone to scrub out the #3 heads and wash place for a upcoming paintout.
Dave Hutson
19-03-2011, 17:49
First of all ...... thankyou Wavering for another great photo, as always.

Surely, she is flying the Union Flag because she is in a British Port ... all same if she was in New York she would fly the Start and Stripes. This would be struck as she passed the breakwater. She has struck her union flag because she is underway and will probably move the ensign to the sea position when clear of the harbour.

If I am wrong then this old Communicator will retire with a mug of kye to his mick. Com'n Derek [Bunts] agree or put me right.

Dave H
wavering
19-03-2011, 19:52
First of all ...... thank you Wavering for another great photo, as always

Well, it is nice to be appreciated so here is another one ...
gfed
20-03-2011, 16:02
First of all ...... thankyou Wavering for another great photo, as always.

Surely, she is flying the Union Flag because she is in a British Port ... all same if she was in New York she would fly the Start and Stripes. This would be struck as she passed the breakwater. She has struck her union flag because she is underway and will probably move the ensign to the sea position when clear of the harbour.

If I am wrong then this old Communicator will retire with a mug of kye to his mick. Com'n Derek [Bunts] agree or put me right.

Dave HIt it's possible that the Union Flag is being worn as a courtesy flag, and this seems to be a more common occurrence these days, although it is by no means mandatory. I, for one, don't believe that warships should fly courtesy flags.
gfed
09-08-2011, 20:48
It it's possible that the Union Flag is being worn as a courtesy flag, and this seems to be a more common occurrence these days, although it is by no means mandatory. I, for one, don't believe that warships should fly courtesy flags.I was looking recently at the subject of courtesy flags, and if the correct practice is followed, a warship flying a courtesy flag should fly the naval ensign of the appropriate country, which in this case would be the white ensign and flown from the stbd outer yard. At any rate, a ceremonial cock up.