Wiring Schematic: HMS Manxman

[ivorthediver]

Here you are Sandy , as promised details of the schematic of the wiring in my model of HMS MANXMAN

As you can see from what's in it its a bit of a shoe horn job and I feel a bit embarrassed when members ask how I wired it all up

As I mentioned before I had a thirty year gap between making model R/C Aircraft and taking up Model boating ...........but whilst I had the confidence to make a model I lacked both the Knowledge of how to make a model boat and absolutely no knowledge of what was on a ship or what she had on board .
So why did I build a scale model boat of a Naval ship .........because of people whom I met who told me how to tackle problems and then tooled myself up for it
During this baptism by fire I met Ron Dean of Deans Marine and Dave Milbourn of Action electronics
The Detail I have obtained from the Forum along with why it was there and what it was for has been mind blowing and I can't thank the long list of individual's concerned enough .....and the kind and thoughtful way that they have helped ........after all I was only an honorary Stocker :o[

[Batstiger]

I haven't seen her for a long time Ivor, she looks great!

Bob.

[ivorthediver]

I haven't seen her for a long time Ivor, she looks great!

Bob.


Thanks Bob ,

Poor girls been laid up in dry dock whilst I have been preparing a new berth for Karen .............but have been getting the workshop ready of late when not in hospital getting my back sorted out

Hope to resolve a few transmitter gremlins soon then back to the clubs lake and put her through her paces and tidy her up and repair damage brought about by the move and storage

Thanks for the interest Bob

Kind regards Ivor

[Destroyerman]

Good stuff Ivor.:)

You have certainly managed to cram in a lot of electronics! All the better because these hull styles do not take kindly to having any excess topweight.

So by keeping it all below the waterline it means that any water ingress can be a major problem.

Keep it up mate and look after your back, it's part of the mechanics of lifting a lovely boat into the water.:rolleyes:

Sandy.

[ivorthediver]

Well as I have recently said to Bob , starting to bring my workshop working and then get the gremlin out of my kit and back on the water I hope :(

[ivorthediver]

Good stuff Ivor.:)

You have certainly managed to cram in a lot of electronics! All the better because these hull styles do not take kindly to having any excess topweight.

So by keeping it all below the waterline it means that any water ingress can be a major problem.

Keep it up mate and look after your back, it's part of the mechanics of lifting a lovely boat into the water.:rolleyes:

Sandy.

Well...... one happy bunny today Sandy as I have beaten the Receiver
Gremlin and checked the model out and all seems a go except the smoke burners so I have left everything on charge tonight and wet the burner grills on top hoping that this will dissolve any crust which may have formed on top and let me have a functional pair of burners for the morning

I have not been on the water for the last 14 months and I am hopeful
that all will be ship shape and Bristol fashion :eek:....now that the new home is on an even keel :eek:

Will try to get Karen to take a few pictures ;)

[Destroyerman]

Look forward to seeing the images Ivor.

Good luck on the water tomorrow, weather forecast not bad, cold but no too much wind for a slimline hull.;)

Sandy.

[ivorthediver]

Hi Sandy ,

Well unlike my usual run of luck every thing went very well today and I had a brilliant morning at the lake side and great to see all my old friends and introduce Karen to them

Only hit the reeds once but managed to get out all right

Enjoy the pictures which my good lady took for me :)

[Dave Hutson]

She looks great Ivor [Manxman that is - we know Karen looks great]. It is always a tense moment running the first time with a boat but immensely satisfying when she runs well.

A couple of questions --- was she a Kit , if so what scale. ?

If a kit did the crew figures come part of or were they bought separately. ?

When scratch building it is always difficult obtaining the right size crew figures. I have been contemplating on my next build buying the Crew first and then building the Ship round them. :mad:

Dave H

[ivorthediver]

Ok DIRTY WASHING time now

These are of the current state of my beloved model which has been stored in no end of places since my move last February .

You can see I'm sure, various bits broken, missing, bent , or in urgent need of repair ...........so now that I know all is working ......I will start the long haul of refurbing, replacing, repainting,etc ......god knows how long it will take but hey thats what we modelers do eh :confused:

Think I will have a Tot to sooth my depression :mad:

[ivorthediver]

I haven't seen her for a long time Ivor, she looks great!

Bob.

Here you go bob, Remind you of Apollo perchance :confused:

[Destroyerman]

Excellent Ivor.

I note that you had almost perfect conditions for sailing. She cuts a fine dash on the water. Can you get her up to scale 40 knots? Had UNDAUNTED on the water today and got her up to scale 35 knots. Little bit scary with four skittish Corvettes about.

Don't worry too much about little dents and bits missing on your model, she looks fine to me ..... and these ships, in reality, were the workhorses of the Fleet during WWII.

Strange you mention APOLLO, as UNDAUNTED had to complete APOLLO's mission on D-Day+1 when APOLLO grounded on a sandbar off Normandy and Eisenhower and Adm Ramsay had to be transferred to UNDAUNTED for fast passage back to Portsmouth.

Anyway, glad all went well. And Karen's images are good.;)

I would echo Dave Hutson's question, what scale is MANXMAN and is she a kit? Some of the fittings look very much like Ron Dean's and therefore would hazard a guess at 1:96 scale? Could be wrong .....generally am.:D

Sandy.

[Vegaskip]

Looking good Ivor, I agree with Sandy, about broken bits and a bit of 'scruffiness', working ships mate, anyway a quick self maintainance period will sort that.
regards to Karen and your self. JIM

[ivorthediver]

She looks great Ivor [Manxman that is - we know Karen looks great]. It is always a tense moment running the first time with a boat but immensely satisfying when she runs well.

A couple of questions --- was she a Kit , if so what scale. ?

If a kit did the crew figures come part of or were they bought separately. ?

When scratch building it is always difficult obtaining the right size crew figures. I have been contemplating on my next build buying the Crew first and then building the Ship round them. :mad:

Dave H

Hi Dave ,
Thanks for your kind comments and to answer you is not as straight forward as you might think , but I will try
Yes it was a kit and it is one of Ron Deans models ....and the reason I chose it was two fold
Firstly I knew from the outset that IF I was to build a model ship it would have to be Navy , it would have to be big enough to take the items I wanted in my Model , and it must be able to have a means of generating steam
I joined a local club and talked to various people who seemed hell bent on complaining about the quality of Rons models.
So I went to Rons premises and asked him what he had and he showed me the MANXMAN
I told him what I had heard and asked him why I should shell out £300 for a model of his
Instead of showing me the exit he laughed and asked me if I had ever made a plastic card model to which I said NO and he showed me how to do it and what I would need ....including a dvd on how to build this model along with tips and his phone number
I bought everything I needed from him and he told me about Action Electronics .
I work on a basis of trust and I trust everyone until they prove unworthy of my trust ........then they never get a second chance

Naive......perhaps .....but in my life so far it has held me in good stead with the exception of females [wives] but I have finally meet the perfect woman

The model is i/96 scale and the model depicts her "as built " but I wanted her .."as used "
if you look back through all my previous posts [not to be recommended ] I asked all manner of questions and gained a picture in my minds eye of how she would look
Ron has a wonderful knowledge of Navy life Tradition and refits to know end of grey funnel ships
The ship was designed for basic R/C control [ 2 channel ] and I knew that I needed at least six channel and to run on a 12volt sealed lead acid battery.........getting the picture now :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Built the hull and installed all the electronics I felt I wanted and then spoke to various others at the Warwick Model boat show and found out about glues , waterproof putty's,connectors, wiring , L.E.D's, Tools, air brush tools and paint's .......then met Dave at action and made a wish list :eek:
I got most of what I wanted as I had come into some unexpected funds ....and set about designing and making new deck layouts to gain access to work on the bits I needed to tweak now and then and set about doing it
I have been working on and off on the model for three years now and getting to where I thought it should be .....now to refurb and have a refit :rolleyes:

I also bought Rons 1/96 scale crew and spent days squinting and painting them ....not perfect but good enough from 6ft ;)

For my first attempt at this kind of thing I am told that it looks quite good .....which will encourage me to do better and be more patient

Hope that covers your question mate :) [:)shoreham girl]:p

[ivorthediver]

Excellent Ivor.

I note that you had almost perfect conditions for sailing. She cuts a fine dash on the water. Can you get her up to scale 40 knots? Had UNDAUNTED on the water today and got her up to scale 35 knots. Little bit scary with four skittish Corvettes about.

Don't worry too much about little dents and bits missing on your model, she looks fine to me ..... and these ships, in reality, were the workhorses of the Fleet during WWII.

Strange you mention APOLLO, as UNDAUNTED had to complete APOLLO's mission on D-Day+1 when APOLLO grounded on a sandbar off Normandy and Eisenhower and Adm Ramsay had to be transferred to UNDAUNTED for fast passage back to Portsmouth.

Anyway, glad all went well. And Karen's images are good.;)

I would echo Dave Hutson's question, what scale is MANXMAN and is she a kit? Some of the fittings look very much like Ron Dean's and therefore would hazard a guess at 1:96 scale? Could be wrong .....generally am.:D

Sandy.

Hi Sandy ,
If you read my reply to Dave H it should cover most Bases , but you will see items on her which were not Rons and were sourced else where [ for instance the Orlican A/A guns ....hope I spelt that right :o]

At the time she was painted I used Enamel paint ...but in future I think I will use Acrylic paint
without exception the worst bit of the model was making the hand rails out of brass etch and wire and soldering them all together :eek:
We are talking weeks here :eek:
Your praise on my efforts is well received ...thank you

[Dave Hutson]

Thanks Ivor, Three years on a Dean Marine Kit ...... wow ...... I have their Royal Yacht , bought for me when I retired 13 years ago and I haven't even finished the Hull yet , but that is a long story which I will talk to you about later when we both have a glass in our hands. Having said that I have built one kit and ten scratch builds in that timeframe, Britannia just keeps getting put back on the backburner.

Manxman is looking good and I will be picking your brain later no doubt. :confused:

Meanwhile, keep building, kind regards to you and Shoreham's best.;):cool:

Dave H

[ivorthediver]

Thanks Ivor, Three years on a Dean Marine Kit ...... wow ...... I have their Royal Yacht , bought for me when I retired 13 years ago and I haven't even finished the Hull yet , but that is a long story which I will talk to you about later when we both have a glass in our hands. Having said that I have built one kit and ten scratch builds in that timeframe, Britannia just keeps getting put back on the backburner.

Manxman is looking good and I will be picking your brain later no doubt. :confused:

Meanwhile, keep building, kind regards to you and Shoreham's best.;):cool:

Dave H

Anything I can help you with Dave you know is yours ..................:)


If you would like to see a sketch of the internal layout I will only be to pleased to let you have it [I am no draughtsman thou ] so I will rough it out [ rough being the operative word ]...
The kit did not have Aldis Lamps so I bought them else where and fitted Grain of wheat bulbs in them and adapted a crew member each side to suit

From memory his 1/96 crews need to be sifted through to find Gun crews , deck hands etc as he makes about a dozen obvious ones and others which can be altered to suit
The kit needed additional doors to , and I think I also bought an open one for the bridge as well :(

But for all that Mr Dean was always willing to help me with what ever I needed and "Bit's" were borrowed from other kits .
He also had a "Flag" kit with blocks and pulleys for setting up bunting which I used :)